Why scrape the bad traces?
2007-12-03 by synthmdl76

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2007-12-03 by synthmdl76
2007-12-03 by wasteking1
>I have wondered this myself...everyone said that the acid would spread
> Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to remove the
> "balcken'd" area.
>
2007-12-03 by Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
On Dec 3, 2007 1:08 AM, synthmdl76 <synthmdl76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to remove the
> "balcken'd" area.
>
>
>
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2007-12-04 by gil_we
--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "wasteking1" <wasteking1@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "synthmdl76" <synthmdl76@> wrote:
> >
> > Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> > damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to remove the
> > "balcken'd" area.
> >
> I have wondered this myself...everyone said that the acid would spread
> further eventually. In my own case, i did just jump wires at
> first...everything worked for a few months then the patch switches
> started being sluggish and then some started to stay on all the
> time...so I took it apart again, scraped it all out ,restored all
> continuities, replaced IC 31 and ic30....and NOTHING GOT ANY BETTER...
> So i just sent my polysix about 100 miles to a supposed synth pro
> because i dont understand what is going on anymore....but YES jumping
> the wires did work at first.
>
2007-12-04 by Sam Larch
On Dec 4, 2007 4:23 PM, gil_we <gil_we@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The acid spreads everywhere in the area, you have to clean it all up
> when fixing the bad traces.
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>, "wasteking1"
> <wasteking1@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>, "synthmdl76"
> <synthmdl76@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> > > damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to remove the
> > > "balcken'd" area.
> > >
> > I have wondered this myself...everyone said that the acid would spread
> > further eventually. In my own case, i did just jump wires at
> > first...everything worked for a few months then the patch switches
> > started being sluggish and then some started to stay on all the
> > time...so I took it apart again, scraped it all out ,restored all
> > continuities, replaced IC 31 and ic30....and NOTHING GOT ANY BETTER...
> > So i just sent my polysix about 100 miles to a supposed synth pro
> > because i dont understand what is going on anymore....but YES jumping
> > the wires did work at first.
> >
>
>
>
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2007-12-06 by synthmdl76
--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@...> wrote:
>
> Can the acid permeate through the middle of the board? Such that
cleaning
> the surfaces would be futile?
>
> Incidentally, what is the best method for cleaning (neutralizing the
acid
> on) the surfaces of the board?
>
> On Dec 4, 2007 4:23 PM, gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
>
> > The acid spreads everywhere in the area, you have to clean it all up
> > when fixing the bad traces.
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>,
"wasteking1"
> > <wasteking1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>,
"synthmdl76"
> > <synthmdl76@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> > > > damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to
remove the
> > > > "balcken'd" area.
> > > >
> > > I have wondered this myself...everyone said that the acid would
spread
> > > further eventually. In my own case, i did just jump wires at
> > > first...everything worked for a few months then the patch switches
> > > started being sluggish and then some started to stay on all the
> > > time...so I took it apart again, scraped it all out ,restored all
> > > continuities, replaced IC 31 and ic30....and NOTHING GOT ANY
BETTER...
> > > So i just sent my polysix about 100 miles to a supposed synth pro
> > > because i dont understand what is going on anymore....but YES
jumping
> > > the wires did work at first.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
2007-12-06 by Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
On Dec 6, 2007 12:18 PM, synthmdl76 <synthmdl76@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I wiped the area good with rubbing alcohol multiple times.
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@...> wrote:
> >
> > Can the acid permeate through the middle of the board? Such that
> cleaning
> > the surfaces would be futile?
> >
> > Incidentally, what is the best method for cleaning (neutralizing the
> acid
> > on) the surfaces of the board?
> >
>
> > On Dec 4, 2007 4:23 PM, gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The acid spreads everywhere in the area, you have to clean it all up
> > > when fixing the bad traces.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "wasteking1"
> > > <wasteking1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "synthmdl76"
> > > <synthmdl76@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> > > > > damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to
> remove the
> > > > > "balcken'd" area.
> > > > >
> > > > I have wondered this myself...everyone said that the acid would
> spread
> > > > further eventually. In my own case, i did just jump wires at
> > > > first...everything worked for a few months then the patch switches
> > > > started being sluggish and then some started to stay on all the
> > > > time...so I took it apart again, scraped it all out ,restored all
> > > > continuities, replaced IC 31 and ic30....and NOTHING GOT ANY
> BETTER...
> > > > So i just sent my polysix about 100 miles to a supposed synth pro
> > > > because i dont understand what is going on anymore....but YES
> jumping
> > > > the wires did work at first.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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-Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
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2007-12-06 by steven pistrich
On Dec 6, 2007 12:18 PM, synthmdl76 <synthmdl76@yahoo. com> wrote:
> I wiped the area good with rubbing alcohol multiple times.
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@... > wrote:
> >
> > Can the acid permeate through the middle of the board? Such that
> cleaning
> > the surfaces would be futile?
> >
> > Incidentally, what is the best method for cleaning (neutralizing the
> acid
> > on) the surfaces of the board?
> >
>
> > On Dec 4, 2007 4:23 PM, gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The acid spreads everywhere in the area, you have to clean it all up
> > > when fixing the bad traces.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com <PolySix%40yahoogro ups.com>,
> "wasteking1"
> > > <wasteking1@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com <PolySix%40yahoogro ups.com>,
> "synthmdl76"
> > > <synthmdl76@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> > > > > damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to
> remove the
> > > > > "balcken'd" area.
> > > > >
> > > > I have wondered this myself...everyone said that the acid would
> spread
> > > > further eventually. In my own case, i did just jump wires at
> > > > first...everything worked for a few months then the patch switches
> > > > started being sluggish and then some started to stay on all the
> > > > time...so I took it apart again, scraped it all out ,restored all
> > > > continuities, replaced IC 31 and ic30....and NOTHING GOT ANY
> BETTER...
> > > > So i just sent my polysix about 100 miles to a supposed synth pro
> > > > because i dont understand what is going on anymore....but YES
> jumping
> > > > the wires did work at first.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
> PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc umu.se/~amber/ Poly6
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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2007-12-07 by Sam Larch
On 12/6/07, steven pistrich <wasteking1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I had that idea and did that on my polysix...a bakingsoda wash to clean
> the battery area, but I cant say it stopped anything from eventually getting
> worse.(at least in my case)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Chromatest J. Pantsmaker <chromatest@azburners.org>
> To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2007 4:49:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [PolySix] Re: Why scrape the bad traces?
>
> Technically, you'd need something basic to neutralize the acid.
> Alcohol is a good thing to clean an area and dissolve solids and wash
> them away. Of course, rubbing alcohol is acidic (ph 5.5). If you
> really wanted to neutralize the acid, a solution of baking soda and
> purified water soaking on it would help. Of course, after letting it
> soak for a while, you'd want to wash it all off nicely. I'd use
> purified water for this. Let it dry for a day before applying power.
>
> On Dec 6, 2007 12:18 PM, synthmdl76 <synthmdl76@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > I wiped the area good with rubbing alcohol multiple times.
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@... > wrote:
> > >
> > > Can the acid permeate through the middle of the board? Such that
> > cleaning
> > > the surfaces would be futile?
> > >
> > > Incidentally, what is the best method for cleaning (neutralizing the
> > acid
> > > on) the surfaces of the board?
> > >
> >
> > > On Dec 4, 2007 4:23 PM, gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The acid spreads everywhere in the area, you have to clean it all up
> > > > when fixing the bad traces.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com <PolySix%40yahoogro ups.com>,
> > "wasteking1"
> > > > <wasteking1@ > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups .com <PolySix%40yahoogro ups.com>,
> > "synthmdl76"
> > > > <synthmdl76@ > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cant you just run jumper wires to the need contacts and leave the
> > > > > > damaged traces? I dont see why time needs to be taken to
> > remove the
> > > > > > "balcken'd" area.
> > > > > >
> > > > > I have wondered this myself...everyone said that the acid would
> > spread
> > > > > further eventually. In my own case, i did just jump wires at
> > > > > first...everything worked for a few months then the patch switches
> > > > > started being sluggish and then some started to stay on all the
> > > > > time...so I took it apart again, scraped it all out ,restored all
> > > > > continuities, replaced IC 31 and ic30....and NOTHING GOT ANY
> > BETTER...
> > > > > So i just sent my polysix about 100 miles to a supposed synth pro
> > > > > because i dont understand what is going on anymore....but YES
> > jumping
> > > > > the wires did work at first.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc umu.se/~amber/ Poly6
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> ..sig
> -Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
> http://www.chromate st.net
>
>
>
>
>
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2007-12-07 by amber@acc.umu.se
2007-12-07 by robin.b2@ukonline.co.uk
>>I had that idea and did that on my polysix...a bakingsoda wash to cleanSurely the issue here is that NiCd batteries actually have an alkali
>>the battery area, but I cant say it stopped anything from eventually getting
>>worse.(at least in my case)
>>
>>
2007-12-07 by Chromatest J. Pantsmaker
>--
> >>I had that idea and did that on my polysix...a bakingsoda wash to clean
> >>the battery area, but I cant say it stopped anything from eventually getting
> >>worse.(at least in my case)
> >>
> >>
>
> Surely the issue here is that NiCd batteries actually have an alkali
> electrolyte, not acid.... maybe the stuff that leaks out is
> actually acidic but I doubt it.
>
> It's still a nasty effect, whatever the chemistry of it is :)
>
> Cheers,
> Robin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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2007-12-09 by jure zitnik
On Dec 7, 2007 10:40 AM, <amber@acc.umu.se> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Just wanted you to know about a midikit for the Polysix that I orded from CHD
> Electroservice, a small firm in Prague, Czechoslovakia. Its operation is fairly
> basic, but apart from the usual note on/note off-functionality it also has the
> ability to sync the arpegiator to midiclocks. Check it out, at the bottom of
> the page is pdf for installation and user manual:
>
> http://www.chd-el.cz/index.php?id=399
>
> Swift service, easy installation and the whole thing just costed me 88 euro
> (about 129 USdollars) with freightcost included.
>
> So, now my Polysix's got a new life in sync with the rest of my midi-setup...:)
>
> Regards,
> Kristofer Ulfves, Uppsala, Sweden
>
>
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>
>
>
2007-12-09 by amber@acc.umu.se
> wow, not just that but also pitch wheel! and some other stuff as well...
> really good find, if i hadn't midified mine yet, i'd definitely go for this
> one.
>
> jure
2007-12-10 by mathroutine