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This is the solution to most tuning problems

This is the solution to most tuning problems

2006-05-06 by darke_one666

Hi all, 

I keep seeing messages posted regarding tuning etc. I can pretty much 
promise you all that this is caused by the opto on the KLM366. 
Within the last year I have repaired 5 pcb's all suffering from the 
same problem, ie tuning C6 is ok but when you line up C2 to be at the 
correct pitch , the octaves are not correct. I've also see units that 
play an octave over 11 notes C2-B3, not enough range on the pots to 
tune up just to name the common ones. From now I dont even bother 
trying to tune a P6 without swapping the opto as you will most likely 
be wasting yourtime. If you need a pdf copy of the service manual email 
me at ibradshaw@btconnect.com also if you need any tips let me know. 

I have really spent a lot of time last summer figuring how these units 
tick and learnt just about everything I could. I've worked 
professionally (if that's how you spell it!) repairing synths over the 
last 18 years and specialise in Korg, Ensoniq, Kurzweil and Alesis

Re: [PolySix] This is the solution to most tuning problems

2006-05-07 by Sam Larch

Is the "OPTO" you speak of the photocoupler?  I'm having a little trouble
locating the replacement part.  Do you have the NTE replacement number - or
where I could find one?

Also - what causes them to go bad?  Could another cirucuit replace the opto?


On 5/6/06, darke_one666 <darke_one666@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I keep seeing messages posted regarding tuning etc. I can pretty much
> promise you all that this is caused by the opto on the KLM366.
> Within the last year I have repaired 5 pcb's all suffering from the
> same problem, ie tuning C6 is ok but when you line up C2 to be at the
> correct pitch , the octaves are not correct. I've also see units that
> play an octave over 11 notes C2-B3, not enough range on the pots to
> tune up just to name the common ones. From now I dont even bother
> trying to tune a P6 without swapping the opto as you will most likely
> be wasting yourtime. If you need a pdf copy of the service manual email
> me at ibradshaw@btconnect.com also if you need any tips let me know.
>
> I have really spent a lot of time last summer figuring how these units
> tick and learnt just about everything I could. I've worked
> professionally (if that's how you spell it!) repairing synths over the
> last 18 years and specialise in Korg, Ensoniq, Kurzweil and Alesis
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: This is the solution to most tuning problems

2006-05-08 by gil_we

Which part number would it be on the circuit board ?

thanks



--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@...> wrote:
>
> Is the "OPTO" you speak of the photocoupler?  I'm having a little 
trouble
> locating the replacement part.  Do you have the NTE replacement 
number - or
> where I could find one?
> 
> Also - what causes them to go bad?  Could another cirucuit replace 
the opto?
> 
> 
> On 5/6/06, darke_one666 <darke_one666@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I keep seeing messages posted regarding tuning etc. I can pretty 
much
> > promise you all that this is caused by the opto on the KLM366.
> > Within the last year I have repaired 5 pcb's all suffering from 
the
> > same problem, ie tuning C6 is ok but when you line up C2 to be at 
the
> > correct pitch , the octaves are not correct. I've also see units 
that
> > play an octave over 11 notes C2-B3, not enough range on the pots 
to
> > tune up just to name the common ones. From now I dont even bother
> > trying to tune a P6 without swapping the opto as you will most 
likely
> > be wasting yourtime. If you need a pdf copy of the service manual 
email
> > me at ibradshaw@... also if you need any tips let me know.
> >
> > I have really spent a lot of time last summer figuring how these 
units
> > tick and learnt just about everything I could. I've worked
> > professionally (if that's how you spell it!) repairing synths 
over the
> > last 18 years and specialise in Korg, Ensoniq, Kurzweil and Alesis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PolySix] Re: This is the solution to most tuning problems

2006-05-08 by Sam Larch

PC-1

On 5/8/06, gil_we <gil_we@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Which part number would it be on the circuit board ?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@...> wrote:
> >
> > Is the "OPTO" you speak of the photocoupler?  I'm having a little
> trouble
> > locating the replacement part.  Do you have the NTE replacement
> number - or
> > where I could find one?
> >
> > Also - what causes them to go bad?  Could another cirucuit replace
> the opto?
> >
> >
> > On 5/6/06, darke_one666 <darke_one666@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I keep seeing messages posted regarding tuning etc. I can pretty
> much
> > > promise you all that this is caused by the opto on the KLM366.
> > > Within the last year I have repaired 5 pcb's all suffering from
> the
> > > same problem, ie tuning C6 is ok but when you line up C2 to be at
> the
> > > correct pitch , the octaves are not correct. I've also see units
> that
> > > play an octave over 11 notes C2-B3, not enough range on the pots
> to
> > > tune up just to name the common ones. From now I dont even bother
> > > trying to tune a P6 without swapping the opto as you will most
> likely
> > > be wasting yourtime. If you need a pdf copy of the service manual
> email
> > > me at ibradshaw@... also if you need any tips let me know.
>
> > >
> > > I have really spent a lot of time last summer figuring how these
> units
> > > tick and learnt just about everything I could. I've worked
> > > professionally (if that's how you spell it!) repairing synths
> over the
> > > last 18 years and specialise in Korg, Ensoniq, Kurzweil and Alesis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6
> > >
> > >
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Re: This is the solution to most tuning problems

2006-05-09 by gil_we

In case this is what he ment by "opto" I guess (?)


--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@...> wrote:
>
> PC-1
> 
> On 5/8/06, gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
> >
> > Which part number would it be on the circuit board ?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Is the "OPTO" you speak of the photocoupler?  I'm having a 
little
> > trouble
> > > locating the replacement part.  Do you have the NTE replacement
> > number - or
> > > where I could find one?
> > >
> > > Also - what causes them to go bad?  Could another cirucuit 
replace
> > the opto?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/6/06, darke_one666 <darke_one666@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I keep seeing messages posted regarding tuning etc. I can 
pretty
> > much
> > > > promise you all that this is caused by the opto on the KLM366.
> > > > Within the last year I have repaired 5 pcb's all suffering 
from
> > the
> > > > same problem, ie tuning C6 is ok but when you line up C2 to 
be at
> > the
> > > > correct pitch , the octaves are not correct. I've also see 
units
> > that
> > > > play an octave over 11 notes C2-B3, not enough range on the 
pots
> > to
> > > > tune up just to name the common ones. From now I dont even 
bother
> > > > trying to tune a P6 without swapping the opto as you will most
> > likely
> > > > be wasting yourtime. If you need a pdf copy of the service 
manual
> > email
> > > > me at ibradshaw@ also if you need any tips let me know.
> >
> > > >
> > > > I have really spent a lot of time last summer figuring how 
these
> > units
> > > > tick and learnt just about everything I could. I've worked
> > > > professionally (if that's how you spell it!) repairing synths
> > over the
> > > > last 18 years and specialise in Korg, Ensoniq, Kurzweil and 
Alesis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > ment&c=5&s=126&.sig=j3TK8h6GNpD5AMFN0TJA3A> Synthesizer
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w3=Electronic+music&w4=Music+sampler&w5=Electronic+musical+instrument&
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> > 
t=ms&k=Music+sampler&w1=Electronic+instrument&w2=Synthesizer+music&w3=
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Electronic+music&w4=Music+sampler&w5=Electronic+musical+instrument&c=5
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t=ms&k=Electronic+musical+instrument&w1=Electronic+instrument&w2=Synth
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esizer+music&w3=Electronic+music&w4=Music+sampler&w5=Electronic+musica
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Re: [PolySix] Re: This is the solution to most tuning problems

2006-05-09 by Sam Larch

Yes.  I confirmed with him.  I'm having a hard time trying to find the
replacement piece.  I'd like to build an alternative circuit (espicially if
they're prone to failure) but I can't even find a datasheet on the thing.
Have you searched?

On 5/9/06, gil_we <gil_we@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> In case this is what he ment by "opto" I guess (?)
>
>
>
> --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@...> wrote:
> >
> > PC-1
>
> >
> > On 5/8/06, gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Which part number would it be on the circuit board ?
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is the "OPTO" you speak of the photocoupler?  I'm having a
> little
> > > trouble
> > > > locating the replacement part.  Do you have the NTE replacement
> > > number - or
> > > > where I could find one?
> > > >
> > > > Also - what causes them to go bad?  Could another cirucuit
> replace
> > > the opto?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/6/06, darke_one666 <darke_one666@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I keep seeing messages posted regarding tuning etc. I can
> pretty
> > > much
> > > > > promise you all that this is caused by the opto on the KLM366.
> > > > > Within the last year I have repaired 5 pcb's all suffering
> from
> > > the
> > > > > same problem, ie tuning C6 is ok but when you line up C2 to
> be at
> > > the
> > > > > correct pitch , the octaves are not correct. I've also see
> units
> > > that
> > > > > play an octave over 11 notes C2-B3, not enough range on the
> pots
> > > to
> > > > > tune up just to name the common ones. From now I dont even
> bother
> > > > > trying to tune a P6 without swapping the opto as you will most
> > > likely
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> manual
> > > email
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> these
> > > units
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> > > over the
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Re: This is the solution to most tuning problems

2006-05-09 by gil_we

What is its role in the specific circuit btw ?



--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@...> wrote:
>
> Yes.  I confirmed with him.  I'm having a hard time trying to find 
the
> replacement piece.  I'd like to build an alternative circuit 
(espicially if
> they're prone to failure) but I can't even find a datasheet on the 
thing.
> Have you searched?
> 
> On 5/9/06, gil_we <gil_we@...> wrote:
> >
> > In case this is what he ment by "opto" I guess (?)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@> wrote:
> > >
> > > PC-1
> >
> > >
> > > On 5/8/06, gil_we <gil_we@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Which part number would it be on the circuit board ?
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Sam Larch" <sdlarch@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the "OPTO" you speak of the photocoupler?  I'm having a
> > little
> > > > trouble
> > > > > locating the replacement part.  Do you have the NTE 
replacement
> > > > number - or
> > > > > where I could find one?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also - what causes them to go bad?  Could another cirucuit
> > replace
> > > > the opto?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/6/06, darke_one666 <darke_one666@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I keep seeing messages posted regarding tuning etc. I can
> > pretty
> > > > much
> > > > > > promise you all that this is caused by the opto on the 
KLM366.
> > > > > > Within the last year I have repaired 5 pcb's all 
suffering
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > > same problem, ie tuning C6 is ok but when you line up C2 
to
> > be at
> > > > the
> > > > > > correct pitch , the octaves are not correct. I've also 
see
> > units
> > > > that
> > > > > > play an octave over 11 notes C2-B3, not enough range on 
the
> > pots
> > > > to
> > > > > > tune up just to name the common ones. From now I dont 
even
> > bother
> > > > > > trying to tune a P6 without swapping the opto as you 
will most
> > > > likely
> > > > > > be wasting yourtime. If you need a pdf copy of the 
service
> > manual
> > > > email
> > > > > > me at ibradshaw@ also if you need any tips let me know.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have really spent a lot of time last summer figuring 
how
> > these
> > > > units
> > > > > > tick and learnt just about everything I could. I've 
worked
> > > > > > professionally (if that's how you spell it!) repairing 
synths
> > > > over the
> > > > > > last 18 years and specialise in Korg, Ensoniq, Kurzweil 
and
> > Alesis
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