Yes. When you measure on pin1 there will be a certain voltage. The PWM SPEED will be fixed at this point. When you measure at IC13/pin3, does the voltage change according to the PWM SPEED pot? If yes, replace IC13. If no, then IC19 (4051 analog mux/demux) may be the reason. Do you have access to an oscilloscope? This would speed up searching for the defective component... Johannes ciscomanvann wrote: > Well, if that is the case ic13 is craped out. Would that cause my synth to play when in > PWM mode but not be able to change the PWM shape or speed? > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Johannes Hausensteiner <jo.synth@c...> wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>How to determine the pin number of an IC: >> >>e.g. DIL-8 case: >> >> >> 8 7 6 5 >> +|-|-|-|+ >>notch: > | >> +|-|-|-|+ >> 1 2 3 4 >> ^ >>pin no. one >> >>I hope this helps ... >> >>ciscomanvann wrote: >> >>>OK, when I am looking at the IC how do i know which pin is pin 1? I >>>found one pin on IC12 that measures +/- 4.7 v but no pin that changes >>>on IC13. Hmm >>> >>>--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Johannes Hausensteiner <jo.synth@c...> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On KLM-367 check the following: >>>>* IC12 (TL072) pin1: must be -5V .. +5V according to PW/PWM poti >>>> if not, replace IC12 >>>>* IC13 (4558) pin1: must be -5V .. +5V according to PWM SPEED poti >>>> if not, replace IC13 >>>>* Set PWM SPEED to slowest and check IC1 (4066)/pin9: must change from >>>> minus to plus voltage and back (I dont know the exact values; will >>>> be at least -3V..+3V) >>>> if not, replace IC20 (LM13600) and/or IC15 (4558) >>>>* IC1/pin6: must be +5V when WAVEFORM is at PWM position, otherwise 0V. >>>> if not, replace IC3 (LM339) >>>>* IC1/pin8: must be the same as IC1/pin9 when WAVEFORM is at PWM >>>> position, if not replace IC1 (4066). >>>>* TP1 (PW/PWM) near IC12: according to service manual "PW/PWM check >>>> and adjustment" >>>> if not OK, replace IC20 (LM13600) and/or IC15 (4558) >>>> >>>>I hope this helps, >>>> >>>>Johannes >>>> >>>> >>>>ciscomanvann wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Nothing happens. It plays, but the width or pwm does not change. I >>>>>have a multimeter, how do i check this stuff out? I dont know a whole >>>>>lot about ICs. >>>>> >>>>>--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, The Old Crow <oldcrow@o...> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>First thing to do is set VCO to PW and move the width knob from 0 >>>>> >>>>>to 10 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>and back to 0 and listen to see if it changes accordingly. Then >>>>> >>>>>set it to >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>10 and change the VCO mode to PWM and move the PWM speed knob from >>>>> >>>>>0 to 10 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>slowly and note if the cyclic modulation is audible. >>>>>> >>>>>>If nothing is working then I would imagine either IC20 (LM13600) >>>>> >>>>>needs >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>replaced, or the analog switch section IC1C died and IC1 needs >>>>> >>>>>replaced, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>or perhaps the control voltages off deMUX IC19 aren't getting there >>>>> >>>>>and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>IC19, IC12 or IC13 is to blame (least likely though). >>>>>> >>>>>>Use my schematic as it is much easier to read than the old >>>>> >>>>>service >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>manual copy. PWM circuit is on the far right, about 2/3 of the way >>>>> >>>>>down. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>It is marked "PWM MG": >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/crowlm367/klm367a_ >>>>>eagle_schem.gif >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hope this helps, >>>>>> >>>>>>Crow >>>>>>/**/ >>>>>> >>>>>>On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, ciscomanvann wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I know this sounds stupid, but how can i tell if the PWM is >>>>> >>>>>working? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>If it is not, where do I start looking to fix it? >>>>>>>Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6 >>>>> >>>>>Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>>To visit your group on the web, go to: >>>>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PolySix/ >>>>> >>>>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>>>PolySix-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>> >>>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >>>>>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6 >>> >>>Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>>To visit your group on the web, go to: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PolySix/ >>> >>>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> PolySix-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> >>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PolySix/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > PolySix-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >
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Re: [PolySix] Re: PWM diagnostics
2004-01-13 by Johannes Hausensteiner
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