Sounds like D00 is shorted; start by cutting the traces to that line around IC31 -- if the short goes away, you know where to look. If not, cut the D00 trace to each of the other ICs & connectors, one at a time, checking the status of the short as you go. ~G choco wrote: > > Hi. > > I've checked tha traces and seemed to be ok, but accidentaly I found > something that I didn't understand. > > The D00 (CN06-3) seems to be connected to the +3.6 pin of the battery > (and to the new diode which replaced the resistor there), and also to > the D15 anode (which is really close to that trace). I removed the new > diode and soldered it to the battery old soldering point which was not > used and goes through the other side of the board. I cut the trace > which connected the battery to the old resistor just for checking, but > the connection was still there. > > Does it make any sense to you? The tracks and the board seem to be in > good condition and the battery didn't almost leak when I replaced it, > but it sounds to me that the board could be conductive or something > like that. > > I just wanted to ask you before cutting all the traces on the board... > > Maybe tomorrow I will try to remove all the D00 traces and make cable > connections. > > Thank you! > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>, > klosmon <klosmon@...> wrote: > > > > Most likely cause is another bad trace. > > Check all the traces to CN06 (D00 - D03; P10 - P13). > > Also keep in mind that these signals each have to connect to several > > points on the board (for example, D00 connects to IC31-6, IC26-4, > > CN06-3, IC28-4, IC34-4, etc etc). > > > > ~G > > > > choco wrote: > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > Finnaly I managed to repair it! It was just a track that I cut > > > accedentally and was under a printed number on the board (it was > > > almost impossible to see it) > > > > > > Now I've got another problem. The synth sounds ok, it stores the > > > presets and so on, but it seems to be a problem with the modulation > > > section that it doesn't had before I managed to change the battery. > > > > > > What happens is: when i switch the P6 on the LFO led starts flashing > > > faster and faster and every change of the pots doesn't affect to it. > > > Did you encounter this problem before? I've tried to do the Modulation > > > adjustment but the VR changes doesn't seem to affect to the signal > > > that is delivered to CN03-5. Well, I'm doing it with a digital > > > voltimeter which stands to measure Hz, but maybe that's not a good > way... > > > > > > any idea? > > > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "choco" <ignaciojimenez@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi- > > > > > > > > Thank you for your fast and kind reply. > > > > > > > > I have visited your website several times when doing research for my > > > > P6 and I had you in mind as an option if I couldn't work it out. My > > > > synth comes from the states and I was bothered about sending it > back, > > > > but I've never thought before about sending just the board. It's a > > > > great option. > > > > > > > > I'll check one more time that traces and maybe I will re-solder them > > > > and the socket more accurately just for testing. > > > > > > > > Probably I will contact you in a week if I can't arrange to > repair it. > > > > > > > > And maybe I'll think about getting a scope. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:PolySix%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > klosmon <klosmon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello- > > > > > Having repaired many of these, I would suggest that the most > likely > > > > > cause is damaged traces due to the battery leak. > > > > > Even if the board looks good, the traces around IC31 (which you > > > > > replaced) are VERY delicate, and carry data lines that, if > damaged, > > > > > effect all of the functions of the synth. > > > > > > > > > > If you have any experience with electronics, get hold of the > > > schematic > > > > > and use a continuity tester to test all traces from that IC; > if you > > > > > have a scope, that's even faster. > > > > > > > > > > If not, you can send me the CPU board & I can look it over for > you. > > > > > > > > > > ~GMM > > > > > analogsynthervice.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > choco wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > After digging within the messages I haven't found any similar > > > > > > situation, so I decided to post. > > > > > > > > > > > > I bought a year ago and old polysix and it sounded fine to > me (maybe > > > > > > lower than expected, I use it with an old guitar tube amp > and I have > > > > > > to select the high output with master at 12 o'clock to get it at > > > > > > almost the same level as the guitar is) > > > > > > > > > > > > A mounth ago I noticed that I had lost all my patches (although > > > it was > > > > > > sounding great and every pot worked fine). I did know about the > > > > > > battery issues, but it hadn't worried me until that moment. > I opened > > > > > > the polysix and noticed that the battery mounting clamps > were broken > > > > > > and the batery was not feeding the klm367A anymore. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, it had leaked a little bit, but the circuit was almost > perfect > > > > > > and there were no signs of corrosion elsewhere. I cleaned > all the > > > > > > board with alcohol and care, replaced the battery and the > 74LS08N > > > > > > which is next to it just for security and then I made a mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > I broke a trace and shorted accidentaly 5V and ground. > > > > > > > > > > > > After testing and noticing what the matter was, I removed that > > > mistake > > > > > > and everything seemed to work fine (the leds and so on), but > when I > > > > > > pluged the P6 to an amp (to the earphones too), I noticed > that it > > > > > > sounded weak and something like distorted. almost every pot > didn't > > > > > > affect as expected. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you have any idea of what can happen to my beloved P6?Any > measure > > > > > > that I could take from it to get deeper into? Unfortunately > I don't > > > > > > have an osciloscope to take accurate measures... > > > > > > > > > > > > I also had a problem with 15Volt line, all the LEDs were ON when > > > > > > starting up the P6, but never went OFF. In addition to it, the > > > > > > Modulation LFO LED started blinking every time faster and faster > > > until > > > > > > it seemed to be just static ON. I solved it regulating the 15V > > > pot to > > > > > > get over 15.05 on my meter. > > > > > > > > > > > > I will continue testing it, but it seems that I have reached > my best > > > > > > effort in front of it, and here in Spain it's almost impossible > > > > > > finding a qualified vintage synth tech. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix repair - doesn't sound as it should
2008-09-21 by klosmon
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