Hi Dave, great info, thanks for sharing this! It is unfortunate that those nice devices now become old and tired. My Trident MK2 (which I was gifted!) has a dropout of one voice (only VCO 1) and I'll hopefully find the time soon for the surgerey. ;) Still I'm using it a lot and the longer I own it the more amazed of the sounds I am. (And the more I start hating the noise.) Nowadays there are many cool and reliable "digital-analog" synths out there, even quite affordable ones. But they don't have this kind of personality. Best, Niels Dave Garfield schrieb: > HI, Mr. Toerag! > > First, the Polysix and Mono/Poly, although contemporaries (ca. 1982? > - 1985), are two VERY different machines, meant to do quite different > things. > > The Mono/Poly was Korg's brilliant answer to to the magical lure of > the Minimoog... only much more versatile. It used SSM VCOs (4 of > 'em!) and an SSM Moog-style ladder LPF, but has much more flexibility > in control voltage routing. It also has two independent LFOs, two > full ADSR (Korg design (envelope generators, the ability to sync or > FM the VCOs with one another, and a wealth of patch points on the > rear panel. Aside from complaints that the envelopes lack "snap" (I > believe that's because they're "cleaner", with no pause between > Attack peak and start of Decay, as in the Mini), and the filter's not > up to the Mini's (Well, the SSM is about as close as one could get at > the time without a patent violation - Korg learned well from ARP's > little boo-boo!), I think that the sound is fat, full and lush. > Plus, you can play up to four separate notes on the keyboard, albiet > with only the one filter/VCA. It has an arpeggiator that most mono-, > and many polysynths didn't have, and notes can be latched and > transposed using the keyboard. VERY well thought out! > > The Polysix, on the other hand, was designed to bring analog > polyphony within reach of the average musician jonesing for a > synthesizer. At the time, the main/almost only competition was the > Sequential Prophet 5, which listed in the $4,000(!!) range. The Korg > people managed to introduce the Polysix at around $1,500, and jumped > through some imaginative hoops to reduce it to that level without > sacrificing sound quality. > > The Polysix had only six single VCOs (which were linear, Not > exponential, as with Moogs, ARPs, etc), but offered no external FM > control. The filters, six of 'em, were the same Moog-type SSMs as > the Mono/Poly's single filter, so the sound was quite warm. The > filters can be modulated by an external source, as they respond to > 1V/Oct CVs. It has a single LFO, and a single ADSR (SSM) per voice, > but it also has a Chorus/Phaser/Ensemble circuit using analog delay > lines that gives it a Very Full sound. It has a 32-patch memory, and > a factory MIDI retrofit was available -- once upon a when. > > The Mono/Poly has no patch memory (WISH it did!), so no backup > battery was needed. (Also wish it had a Sample/Hold function, but > that's easy to add). The Polysix, like many other polysynths of the > era, used a "state-of-the-art" Nickel-Cadmium rechargable battery for > patch memory backup. We have since learned, in our folly, that > NiCads are dangerous to the environment (It's the Cadmium - a heavy > metal), and need to be disposed of as hazardous waste, and... They're > prone to LEAKING when aged! This corrosive crapola that comes out of > 'em is what "re-etches" the Main Processor board, and sends otherwise > healthy Polysixes to the scrapheap. If you find one, the Very First > Thing to do is: REMOVE THE TICKING NI-CAD TIME BOMB AFFIXED TO THE > PROCESSOR BOARD!!! IMMEDIATELY!! THOROUGHLY CLEAN the board, and > all the nearby traces. The Old Crow > http://www.oldcrows.net/~oldcrow/synth/korg/polysix/index.html has an > Excellent article illustrating how to replace the battery, clean the > key contacts, etc. Plus, there's a standard Service Manual there, > too. > > I've heard some complaints about the less-than-silent VCAs in these > two dudes. Korg saved some $$ by brewing up their own VCAs out of a > matched(?) pair of transistors, and of course, analog delay lines > are, by their nature, prone to be noisy. I've heard of people > substituting VCAs-on-a-chip... Juergen Haible did this to a > Mono/Poly, and said it made a noteworthy decrease in noise. Me, I > run my Mono/Poly through an old Alesis Noise Gate. Works great -- > and it's adjustable! ;-> > > Hope that helps you out some. It's hard to assess the two machines > without a listening test. A great source of info. for the Mono/Poly > is: http://monopoly.highspies.com/. Some info. on the Polysix, and a > small audio demo can be found at: > http://www.vintagesynth.com/index2.html, > http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?storycode=16209 and > http://www.synthmuseum.com/korg/korpolysix01.html. > > Old Korg Freak, Dave Garf > > > ----- Original Message ---- From: toerag_man <toerag_man@yahoo.com> > To: PolySix@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:51:09 > PM Subject: [PolySix] Does the Mono/Poly sound better than the > polysix? > > 1. Does the Mono/Poly sound better than the polysix? > > 2. Does it suffer the same infernal battery problem, line noise etc.? > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the > Yahoo! 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Re: [PolySix] Does the Mono/Poly sound better than the polysix?
2007-01-31 by Niels Ott
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