If IC32 is broken, you would have problems with storing and recalling patches. But if you want to try, you can get replacement from me - generic part on small PCB adapter. I'm going on vacations in a moment, so just brief here. Roman ----- Original Message ----- From: "rignellio" <rignellio@yahoo.co.uk> To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix: effects don't work, has to be in manual mode to sound > Hi Roman, > > Checked all these traces and everything is fine. The only trace I have > had to fix so far was on the little trace coming down off pin 12 on > IC32. IC32 is giving off around 5v turned on, and 0v off, which I > assume is normal. > > In my last post I mentioned fixing another trace but I was in bad > light and found this wasn't correct. I've removed this now and the > Resonance is working again so consider that resolved. The other > problems (programmer, no fx, vca atten not working, sub osc etc) are > all still evident, but aside from those it is sounding great. > > All the traces seem ok so I suspect there is a problem with IC32, as > that's where the majority of damage took place? Anything I can check > further on this chip? And where can I find a replacement in the UK? > > Thanks, > > Tim > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Roman" <modular@...> wrote: > > > > looks to me like you still have broken traces on P11 and D03 lines. > > S check with continuity meter 2 networks (part designator and pin > number): > > IC31-3 > > IC26-14 > > CN06-6 > > CN10-1 > > IC33-9 > > IC28-13 > > IC34-13 > > > > second one: > > IC22-28 > > CN06-8 > > CN10-7 > > > > also check if IC31 (74LS08) is working properly. This poor little guy > > usually suffers the most from battery leakage > > > > hope that helps > > > > Roman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rignellio" <rignellio@...> > > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:12 PM > > Subject: [PolySix] Re: Polysix: effects don't work, has to be in > manual mode > > to sound > > > > > > > Hi Roman, > > > > > > I read through the the Sputniik/Aero thread and he looks like he's a > > > bit further on than me! > > > > > > I found one really short trace which was broken and fixed that, I > > > don't know if there is a map of where the traces go because it's > > > difficult when they are under IC's etc. Anyway I've been thorough and > > > I can't see any problems with them. However I am prepared to be proved > > > wrong. > > > > > > I didn't give a complete analysis of everything that's wrong with my > > > machine: > > > > > > - The octave is only switchable between 16' and 8', 4' sounds the same > > > as 16' > > > > > > - PW functions exactly the same as PWM > > > > > > - The Sub Osc will take the Polysix out of Manual mode when switching > > > to -1, but you can just press Manual again. -2 does the same but > > > Manual won't work with the switch in that position. > > > > > > - The VCA Attenuator isn't working at all > > > > > > I tested the pins on CN03 and I get these results: > > > > > > pin 1 varies between -5v and +4v depending on where the Effects > > > Speed/Intensity knob is > > > pins 2,3,4 are all reading 0.1v constantly > > > pins 5,6 are constant around -4-5v > > > pin 7 changes from around -5v to +5v depending on where the Resonance > > > knob is. > > > > > > I'm going to test CN06 and i'll tell you what I find there shortly. > > > Thanks for the help, > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, "Roman" <modular@> wrote: > > > > > > > > about the effect problem - measure the voltage at CN03 on KLM367 and > > > see if > > > > they change when you turn the following: > > > > effect speed > > > > effect type > > > > VCA attenuation > > > > VCF resonance > > > > you should also see slow changing voltage if you have selected VCA > > > > modulation by LFO > > > > If they change, and not stay the same all the time, then your effect > > > board > > > > might be broken. But if one pins of CN03 doesn't appear to carry > > > changing > > > > voltage no matter what switch/pot you turn from above mentioned - > > > that means > > > > you still have some traces broken after battery leakage. If you also > > > say you > > > > cannot save - the fault may be in CN06 area, as aero/sputnik979 have > > > > discovered recently. > > > > > > > > Roman > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "rignellio" <rignellio@> > > > > To: <PolySix@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 3:18 PM > > > > Subject: [PolySix] Polysix: effects don't work, has to be in manual > > > mode to > > > > sound > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I've read through some posts on similar lines but couldn't > find much > > > > > that specifically related to my problem. Apologies in advance > because > > > > > I know you get these kind of posts all the time. > > > > > > > > > > I got a Polysix recently for next to nothing, the battery had > leaked > > > > > but from a quick inspection it looked reasonably healthy, plus it > > > > > still made sound. > > > > > So i proceeded to follow the Polysix battery replacement > procedure on > > > > > Old Crow's site, and now it is working better than before but > still > > > > > has some major functions missing: > > > > > > > > > > a) The programmer isn't working, and it has to be in Manual > for it to > > > > > work properly. Nothing can be saved to the memory. > > > > > > > > > > b) Also none of the effects work, and it has to be set to > 'Phaser' for > > > > > it to sound at all. Note there is no Phaser effect audible and the > > > > > Speed/Intensity knob has no effect. > > > > > > > > > > So I reckon either a chip or a combination of traces are > faulty. Most > > > > > of the pins around the chips look ok but I'm very > inexperienced with > > > > > electronics. But hey, I got this far. > > > > > How can I test IC31 or IC22 for problems? And if they are > broken, can > > > > > anyone recommend a place to get spares in the UK? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6 > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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Re: [PolySix] Re: Polysix: effects don't work, has to be in manual mode to sound
2006-08-13 by Roman
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