You know what ?... now I relaize I replaced IC8 and ICx11 as well ! What if the problem is related with only one of the VCOs...? lets say VCO1. What would you check/replace ? --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Johannes Hausensteiner <johau@g...> wrote: > > If you already replaced Rx39/Cx10 then the only thing in common > for both VCOs in one voice is ICx11 (TL072). THe value of Rx39 > is not very critical unless it is very different to the nominal > value of 1k > > > By IC8 are you refering to ICx08 ? it's a 4558 opamp. > No, I mean IC8, which is a 4051. It is common to all voices; it > demultiplexes the CV for the VCOs > > Johannes > > > gil_we wrote: > > Thanks ! > > > > The Cx10 and Rx39 have been already replaced to no avail. > > > > By IC8 are you refering to ICx08 ? it's a 4558 opamp. > > > > btw, I now see that I had to replace Rx36 with a slightly different > > value because even after the machine is warm enough, with the > > original value the related VCO still cannot get tuned with the other > > oscillators, not matter how you set the VCO tuning trimmers. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > --- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Johannes Hausensteiner <johau@g...> > > wrote: > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>The caps are Cx10 ... where x is the voice number. On the schematics > >>only voice #7 is drawn in detail, so you can see C710. Maybe it is > > > > not > > > >>the cap but the accompanying resistor (R739), or the demux (IC8). > >> > >>This is a great machine. Two really independant VCOs! > >> > >>Johannes > >> > >> > >>gil_we wrote: > >> > >>>Thanks very much ! > >>> > >>>The tuning is bad on both VCO1 and VCO2 of that oscillator > > > > (although > > > >>>it seems more extreme on VCO2). > >>> > >>>I uploaded the schematics diagram for the VCO board to the files > >>>section - what would be the caps to check on that one ? > >>> > >>>Thanks again. > >>> > >>> > >>>--- In PolySix@yahoogroups.com, Johannes Hausensteiner > > > > <johau@g...> > > > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi, > >>>> > >>>>I only have the schematics for the MK I; which I do not know > > > > whether > > > >>>>it is similar to the MK II. Which VCO has the problem? Is it VCO- > > > > 1 or > > > >>>>VCO-2 or both? If it is both then have a look at the hold > > > > capacitors > > > >>>>after the VCO CV demux IC15 (a 4051) on KLM-301 board. These are > > > > the > > > >>>>caps C25 - C32. > >>>> > >>>>Good luck, > >>>> > >>>>Johannes > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>gil_we wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I've been recovering this one, found in the flea market. Overall > > > > it > > > >>>>>had about 8-9 different faults that I fixed, leaving two > > > > problems. > > > >>>>>The first is a bad SSM2056 chip which I need to find. The second > > > > i > > > >>>>>probably inherent in the discrete ciruit of the second > > > > oscillator. > > > >>>>>Upon powering it up, that particular oscillator will be out of > > > > tune, > > > >>>>>till it gets to its max. internal temperature where the tuning > > > > of > > > >>>>>that VCO is geting more or less - stable. > >>>>> > >>>>>All other oscillators are immediately in tune, no matter what is > > > > the > > > >>>>>temperatue inside the machine. > >>>>> > >>>>>I, of course, tried to figure out what the bad component is by > >>>>>blowing with a straw on each and each of the suspected > > > > compnents, but > > > >>>>>blowing on every component on the circuit of that oscialltor > > > > which > > > >>>>>seems to be pitch related, seems to effect the pitch. > >>>>> > >>>>>I also tried to switch transistors between the bad oscillator > > > > and > > > >>>>>another (working one) but the problem persisted. > >>>>> > >>>>>Does anyone have any other idea / direction ? > >>>>> > >>>>>Thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PolySix "Digiest" Page: http://www.acc.umu.se/~amber/Poly6 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: Trident MKII - one oscillator is out of tune
2005-12-06 by gil_we
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