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3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Mark Pring

Hey Ho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI


They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?

After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.

Mark

Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by ClayE

Mark:  
All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples.  The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop.  I don't get it.  Have you been at the pub again?

Clay

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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>
> Hey Ho
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI
> 
> 
> They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?
> 
> After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.
> 
> Mark
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by lsf5275@aol.com

Calm down Clay. He never said he was good! But then again, neither did  
anyone else. 
 
Frank
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2010 9:59:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:

 
 
 
Mark: 
All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron  samples. 
The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit  annoyed 
that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron  
"terrible", then you post this poop. I don't get it. Have you been at the pub  again?

Clay

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Ho
>  
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys) 
>  
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78) 
>  
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI) 
>  
> 
> They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to  think he has 
been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something  recorded over 50 
years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the  present day. Are t
he names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry  Chamberlin's bedroom 
over 60 years ago known?
> 
> After listening  to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I 
might be a bit harsh on  Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are 
overated.
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>  
> Mark
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Mark Pring

They are all jokes Clay. Although I quite like the sound  of the trombone in the slowest version and of course  scherzo is italian for joke. All the pieces I have posted here weren't meant to be taken seriously and quite a few have been very obvious spoofs , I may perhaps have an odd sense of humour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LkzpkVzD4

Mark

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Mark:  

All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples.  The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop.  I don't get it.  Have you been at the pub again?



Clay



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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>

> Hey Ho

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI

> 

> 

> They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?

> 

> After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.

> 

> Mark

>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Rick Blechta

On Sep 24, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Mark Pring wrote:

> They are all jokes Clay. Although I quite like the sound  of the trombone in the slowest version and of course  scherzo is italian for joke. All the pieces I have posted here weren't meant to be taken seriously and quite a few have been very obvious spoofs , I may perhaps have an odd sense of humour.

You post here, therefore you're odd. QED

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Tom Doncourt

I've gotta say though that hearing the GC trombone on these pieces and considering it to be the lead sound on Flying has me reconsidering it. I've always used it as a backing sound supporting trumpet but it is interesting in the high register as a lead.
On Sep 24, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Mark Pring wrote:

They are all jokes Clay. Although I quite like the sound of the trombone in the slowest version and of course scherzo is italian for joke. All the pieces I have posted here weren't meant to be taken seriously and quite a few have been very obvious spoofs , I may perhaps have an odd sense of humour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LkzpkVzD4

Mark

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--- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:


From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM

Mark:
All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples. The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop. I don't get it. Have you been at the pub again?

Clay

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring wrote:
>
> Hey Ho
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI
>
>
> They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?
>
> After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.
>
> Mark
>



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Mark Pring

I was quite surprised at how useful the trombone is as a lead, I think this might be because George Chisholm was a very good trombonist and perhaps rather a better musician than some of the musicians used for the mellotron tapes.

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org> wrote:

From: Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 7:43 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      I've gotta say though that hearing the GC trombone on these pieces and considering it to be the lead sound on Flying has me reconsidering it. I've always used it as a backing sound supporting trumpet but it is interesting in the high register as a lead.
On Sep 24, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Mark Pring wrote:





 



    They are all jokes Clay. Although I quite like the sound  of the trombone in the slowest version and of course  scherzo is italian for joke. All the pieces I have posted here weren't meant to be taken seriously and quite a few have been very obvious spoofs , I may perhaps have an odd sense of humour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LkzpkVzD4

Mark

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM







 



    
      
      
      Mark:  

All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples.  The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop.  I don't get it.  Have you been at the pub again?



Clay



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>

> Hey Ho

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI

> 

> 

> They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?

> 

> After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.

> 

> Mark

>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Tom Doncourt

That and ....there seems to be a sweet spot where the mellotron gets all warm and fuzzy and a little distorted and that sound hits it. The tenor sax and the M330B also.
On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Mark Pring wrote:

I was quite surprised at how useful the trombone is as a lead, I think this might be because George Chisholm was a very good trombonist and perhaps rather a better musician than some of the musicians used for the mellotron tapes.

Show quoted textHide quoted text


--- On Sat, 25/9/10, Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org> wrote:


From: Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 7:43 AM

I've gotta say though that hearing the GC trombone on these pieces and considering it to be the lead sound on Flying has me reconsidering it. I've always used it as a backing sound supporting trumpet but it is interesting in the high register as a lead.

On Sep 24, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Mark Pring wrote:

They are all jokes Clay. Although I quite like the sound of the trombone in the slowest version and of course scherzo is italian for joke. All the pieces I have posted here weren't meant to be taken seriously and quite a few have been very obvious spoofs , I may perhaps have an odd sense of humour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__LkzpkVzD4

Mark

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>; wrote:


From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM

Mark:
All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples. The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop. I don't get it. Have you been at the pub again?

Clay

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring wrote:
>
> Hey Ho
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI
>
>
> They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?
>
> After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.
>
> Mark
>





Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Mark Pring

Clay:

I will have to start by repeating my apology for my comments on Mike's' 
piece, I was rude and awoke the next morning very unhappy with myself and apologised at the first opportunity. 
When posting on the list I have always appreciated that although we will
 often criticise professional musicians we don't disparage each others 
work.

 I don't  think my output is good but I do think it is important to
 create music as well as listen to it.  My stuff may be poop,
 I would have said shite myself, but it is mine, the gymnopedies were jokes, a bit like Glenn Gould playing Beethoven's Hammerklavier sonata or any Chopin. I set about trying to express my feelings towards the music, and it looks like I succeeded!   

I used samples and FL Studio because with my limited keyboard skills it would have taken a few weeks to learn the piece and I would rather spend the time  practicing  Bach. Midi, a rigid beat and unusal  tempi, suited my purposes. However to my surprise I did start to relent by the time I did the slowest piece, I did quite like the end result and I did smooth out the trombone a bit. I didn't like it enough to alter the dynamics or add rubato.

 I don't understand the group's attitude to samples, the trombone sounds particularly good to my ears.

Anyway below is my last post. Features George again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns

Cheers

Mark

PS I am not comparing myself to Glenn Gould, in my heirachy of music, Glenn is playing the Art of Fugue on the summit of Mount Everest, Mike is playing Satie on a mellotron in Edinburgh and I am arsing about with M-tron  at the bottom of  deep coal mine.



--- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      Mark:  

All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples.  The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop.  I don't get it.  Have you been at the pub again?



Clay



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>

> Hey Ho

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI

> 

> 

> They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?

> 

> After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.

> 

> Mark

>

Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by ClayE

I was a grumpy bear this morning.  Sorry Mark.  I liked the slowest piece and the faster ones were comical.

Clay

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> Clay:
> 
> I will have to start by repeating my apology for my comments on Mike's' 
> piece, I was rude and awoke the next morning very unhappy with myself and apologised at the first opportunity. 
> When posting on the list I have always appreciated that although we will
>  often criticise professional musicians we don't disparage each others 
> work.
> 
>  I don't  think my output is good but I do think it is important to
>  create music as well as listen to it.  My stuff may be poop,
>  I would have said shite myself, but it is mine, the gymnopedies were jokes, a bit like Glenn Gould playing Beethoven's Hammerklavier sonata or any Chopin. I set about trying to express my feelings towards the music, and it looks like I succeeded! Â  
> 
> I used samples and FL Studio because with my limited keyboard skills it would have taken a few weeks to learn the piece and I would rather spend the time  practicing  Bach. Midi, a rigid beat and unusal  tempi, suited my purposes. However to my surprise I did start to relent by the time I did the slowest piece, I did quite like the end result and I did smooth out the trombone a bit. I didn't like it enough to alter the dynamics or add rubato.
> 
> Â I don't understand the group's attitude to samples, the trombone sounds particularly good to my ears.
> 
> Anyway below is my last post. Features George again.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> PS I am not comparing myself to Glenn Gould, in my heirachy of music, Glenn is playing the Art of Fugue on the summit of Mount Everest, Mike is playing Satie on a mellotron in Edinburgh and I am arsing about with M-tron  at the bottom of  deep coal mine.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
> 
> From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Â 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>       
>       
>       Mark:  
> 
> All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples.  The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop.  I don't get it.  Have you been at the pub again?
> 
> 
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > Hey Ho
> 
> > 
> 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys
> 
> > 
> 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78
> 
> > 
> 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI
> 
> > 
> 
> > 
> 
> > They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?
> 
> > 
> 
> > After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.
> 
> > 
> 
> > Mark
> 
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Bruce Daily

But, by George, you've done it!
 
  -Bruce D.


--- On Fri, 9/24/10, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
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From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 4:46 PM


  




Yeah, and you spell it wrong too.
 

In a message dated 9/24/2010 3:36:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:
I may perhaps have an odd sense of humour.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Mark Pring

No worries, Clay, it was all my fault.

Mark

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 11:10 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      I was a grumpy bear this morning.  Sorry Mark.  I liked the slowest piece and the faster ones were comical.



Clay



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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>

> Clay:

> 

> I will have to start by repeating my apology for my comments on Mike's' 

> piece, I was rude and awoke the next morning very unhappy with myself and apologised at the first opportunity. 

> When posting on the list I have always appreciated that although we will

>  often criticise professional musicians we don't disparage each others 

> work.

> 

>  I don't  think my output is good but I do think it is important to

>  create music as well as listen to it.  My stuff may be poop,

>  I would have said shite myself, but it is mine, the gymnopedies were jokes, a bit like Glenn Gould playing Beethoven's Hammerklavier sonata or any Chopin. I set about trying to express my feelings towards the music, and it looks like I succeeded! Â  

> 

> I used samples and FL Studio because with my limited keyboard skills it would have taken a few weeks to learn the piece and I would rather spend the time  practicing  Bach. Midi, a rigid beat and unusal  tempi, suited my purposes. However to my surprise I did start to relent by the time I did the slowest piece, I did quite like the end result and I did smooth out the trombone a bit. I didn't like it enough to alter the dynamics or add rubato.

> 

> Â I don't understand the group's attitude to samples, the trombone sounds particularly good to my ears.

> 

> Anyway below is my last post. Features George again.

> 

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns

> 

> Cheers

> 

> Mark

> 

> PS I am not comparing myself to Glenn Gould, in my heirachy of music, Glenn is playing the Art of Fugue on the summit of Mount Everest, Mike is playing Satie on a mellotron in Edinburgh and I am arsing about with M-tron  at the bottom of  deep coal mine.

> 

> 

> 

> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:

> 

> From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@...>

> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

> Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Â 

> 

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

>     

>       

>       

>       Mark:  

> 

> All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron samples.  The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron "terrible", then you post this poop.  I don't get it.  Have you been at the pub again?

> 

> 

> 

> Clay

> 

> 

> 

> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:

> 

> >

> 

> > Hey Ho

> 

> > 

> 

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys

> 

> > 

> 

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78

> 

> > 

> 

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI

> 

> > 

> 

> > 

> 

> > They all feature George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?

> 

> > 

> 

> > After listening to the gymnopedie on and off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that bad but I still think they are overated.

> 

> > 

> 

> > Mark

> 

> >

>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by lsf5275@aol.com

"I was a grumpy bear..." "I was drunk..." Jeez! Excuses excuses.
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2010 7:10:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:

 
 
 
I was a grumpy bear this morning. Sorry Mark. I liked the slowest piece and 
 the faster ones were comical.

Clay

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Clay:
>  
> I will have to start by repeating my apology for my comments on  Mike's' 
> piece, I was rude and awoke the next morning very unhappy  with myself 
and apologised at the first opportunity. 
> When posting on  the list I have always appreciated that although we will
> often  criticise professional musicians we don't disparage each others 
>  work.
> 
>  I don't  think my output is good but I do  think it is important to
> create music as well as listen to it.   My stuff may be poop,
> I would have said shite myself, but it is mine,  the gymnopedies were 
jokes, a bit like Glenn Gould playing Beethoven's  Hammerklavier sonata or any 
Chopin. I set about trying to express my feelings  towards the music, and it 
looks like I succeeded! Â  
> 
> I  used samples and FL Studio because with my limited keyboard skills it 
would  have taken a few weeks to learn the piece and I would rather spend 
the  time  practicing  Bach. Midi, a rigid beat and unusal   tempi, suited 
my purposes. However to my surprise I did start to relent by the  time I did 
the slowest piece, I did quite like the end result and I did smooth  out 
the trombone a bit. I didn't like it enough to alter the dynamics or add  
rubato.
> 
> Â I don't understand the group's attitude to  samples, the trombone 
sounds particularly good to my ears.
> 
>  Anyway below is my last post. Features George again.
> 
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns) 
>  
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> PS I am not comparing  myself to Glenn Gould, in my heirachy of music, 
Glenn is playing the Art of  Fugue on the summit of Mount Everest, Mike is 
playing Satie on a mellotron in  Edinburgh and I am arsing about with M-tron  
at the bottom of   deep coal mine.
> 
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> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE  <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
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> From: ClayE  <ecclesreinson@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3  Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) 
>  Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM
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> All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron  samples. 
The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit  
annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron  
"terrible", then you post this poop. I don't get it. Have you been at the pub  
again?
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> Clay
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> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
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>  > Hey Ho
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> > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys) 
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> > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78) 
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> > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI) 
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> > They all feature  George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he 
has been dead 13 years and  that by using samples of something recorded over 
50 years ago he is forced to  play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. 
Are the names of the three ladies  scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom 
over 60 years ago known?
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> > After listening to the gymnopedie on and  off for the last 3 days, I 
might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that  bad but I still think they 
are overated.
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm

2010-09-24 by Mark Pring

Nice one, Frank :)

--- On Sat, 25/9/10, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 11:17 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      


"I was a grumpy bear..." "I was drunk..." Jeez! Excuses excuses.
 

In a message dated 9/24/2010 7:10:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:
  
  
  I was a grumpy bear this morning. Sorry Mark. I liked the slowest piece and 
  the faster ones were comical.

Clay

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, 
  Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Clay:
> 
  
> I will have to start by repeating my apology for my comments on 
  Mike's' 
> piece, I was rude and awoke the next morning very unhappy 
  with myself and apologised at the first opportunity. 
> When posting on 
  the list I have always appreciated that although we will
> often 
  criticise professional musicians we don't disparage each others 
> 
  work.
> 
>  I don't  think my output is good but I do 
  think it is important to
> create music as well as listen to it.  
  My stuff may be poop,
> I would have said shite myself, but it is mine, 
  the gymnopedies were jokes, a bit like Glenn Gould playing Beethoven's 
  Hammerklavier sonata or any Chopin. I set about trying to express my feelings 
  towards the music, and it looks like I succeeded! Â  
> 
> I 
  used samples and FL Studio because with my limited keyboard skills it would 
  have taken a few weeks to learn the piece and I would rather spend the 
  time  practicing  Bach. Midi, a rigid beat and unusal  
  tempi, suited my purposes. However to my surprise I did start to relent by the 
  time I did the slowest piece, I did quite like the end result and I did smooth 
  out the trombone a bit. I didn't like it enough to alter the dynamics or add 
  rubato.
> 
> Â I don't understand the group's attitude to 
  samples, the trombone sounds particularly good to my ears.
> 
> 
  Anyway below is my last post. Features George again.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSG3e9t8_ns
> 
  
> Cheers
> 
> Mark
> 
> PS I am not comparing 
  myself to Glenn Gould, in my heirachy of music, Glenn is playing the Art of 
  Fugue on the summit of Mount Everest, Mike is playing Satie on a mellotron in 
  Edinburgh and I am arsing about with M-tron  at the bottom of  
  deep coal mine.
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 25/9/10, ClayE 
  <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
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> From: ClayE 
  <ecclesreinson@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: 3 
  Gymnopedies Featuring George Chisholm
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> 
  Received: Saturday, 25 September, 2010, 1:14 AM
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> Mark: 
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> All three of these are just midi sequences triggering mellotron 
  samples. The tempo and artificial timing sounds like shit. I guess I'm a bit 
  annoyed that you recently called a real recording of Satie with Mellotron 
  "terrible", then you post this poop. I don't get it. Have you been at the pub 
  again?
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> 
> Clay
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> 
  
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, 
  Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
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> >
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> 
  > Hey Ho
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ-TkQdm0Ys
> 
  
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOPqms7Q_78
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GOcedoS1OI
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> > They all feature 
  George Chishom on trombone. It is weird to think he has been dead 13 years and 
  that by using samples of something recorded over 50 years ago he is forced to 
  play Satie's Gymnopedie in the present day. Are the names of the three ladies 
  scraping away in Harry Chamberlin's bedroom over 60 years ago known?
> 
  
> > 
> 
> > After listening to the gymnopedie on and 
  off for the last 3 days, I might be a bit harsh on Satie, they are not that 
  bad but I still think they are overated.
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