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While listening to a live version of the Moodies' "Have You Heard/The Voyage" yesterday, I began wondering about the logistics of changing settings on a MkII while in the middle of a song. Pinder uses 3 sounds: Church Organ, Flute and 3 Violins. He uses Church Organ in the beginning, then changes to Flute for the verses. In the beginning of "The Voyage", he goes back to Church Organ and then changes to 3 Violins. When Pt 2 of "Have You Heard" begins, he uses Church Organ and Flute again. I'm assuming he kept one keyboard on Church Organ and switches the other keyboard between Flute and 3 Violins. Flute is on Station 1, Track A and 3 Violins is on Station 2, Track A. Anyone know how long it takes to change stations and have the keyboard become active again after pressing the station button? How does the time compare to an M4000?

Bernie

Well Bernie,

How does the  time compare to an M4000?
With an M4000/M5000, we suggest having a small glass of wine between  
stations 1 and 2 and an a la carte meal between 1 and 8.  Light snacks and  a 
quick one off the wrist can be included in all other  permutations, including a 
short trip to Heligoland if you trip the optical  failsafe.  Does that help?
 
Best,
 
M
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He actually always used standard MKII leads both sides!
 
Best,
 
M
 
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In a message dated 04/08/2010 15:41:21 GMT Daylight Time,  
doctorwho8@aol.com writes:

If I'm not mistaken, Pinder had custom tapesets made so he  wouldn't have 
to change stations between his three key right hand sounds, 3  Violins, 
Brass, and  Flute.

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Hi Bernie,
Between adjacent stations it usually takes about 6-8 seconds from pressing the button and it releasing the keyboard lock. That's plenty of time to go from stn 1-2 in the non-tron bits of that song. From what I've seen of the M4000 it takes slightly longer as the cycling is slower; but then it doesn't need to inch either. If you've ever seen a MkII cycle it's always a bit scary - esp if the tape starts looping off!! Always have a hand near the off switch.
bw
John


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:

>
> While listening to a live version of the Moodies' "Have You Heard/The Voyage" yesterday, I began wondering about the logistics of changing settings on a MkII while in the middle of a song. Pinder uses 3 sounds: Church Organ, Flute and 3 Violins. He uses Church Organ in the beginning, then changes to Flute for the verses. In the beginning of "The Voyage", he goes back to Church Organ and then changes to 3 Violins. When Pt 2 of "Have You Heard" begins, he uses Church Organ and Flute again. I'm assuming he kept one keyboard on Church Organ and switches the other keyboard between Flute and 3 Violins. Flute is on Station 1, Track A and 3 Violins is on Station 2, Track A. Anyone know how long it takes to change stations and have the keyboard become active again after pressing the station button? How does the time compare to an M4000?
> 
> Bernie
>

If you beat the dwarf, he will wind the tapes to and fro a bit  faster.
 
 
In a message dated 8/4/2010 10:51:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tronbros@aol.com writes:

Well Bernie,

How does  the time compare to an M4000?
With an M4000/M5000, we suggest having a small glass of wine between  
stations 1 and 2 and an a la carte meal between 1 and 8.  Light snacks  and a quic
k one off the wrist can be included in all other  permutations, including a 
short trip to Heligoland if you trip the optical  failsafe.  Does that help?
 
Best,
 
M

In a message dated 8/4/2010 7:41:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
doctorwho8@aol.com writes:

If I'm not mistaken, Pinder had custom tapesets made so he  wouldn't have 
to change stations between his three key right hand sounds, 3  Violins, 
Brass, and Flute.


 
Mike's tape sets from MkII #134 are completely stock.  He told  me of an 
attempt to make custom tapes that did not come to fruition.   Remember, he 
also used Tenor Sax (Station 2, Track 3) live for the breaks on  "Legend of a 
Mind", so cycling between Station 1 and 2, although risky, was  likely.
 
Frank 1

Rick likes his Chardonnay aged in a rusted tub. By the way, what it  
Heaven's Sake? Is that what you don't want aged in oak? I didn't know Sake was  
aged in oak.
 
 
In a message dated 8/4/2010 11:45:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
rick@rickblechta.com writes:

For  cycling between end stations, you'll have time to make an omelette des 
fines  herbes, in which case you'll want a white wine, Chardonnay being the 
most  suitable -- but for heaven's sake make sure it's not been aged in  
oak!

In a message dated 8/4/2010 9:12:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
MAinPsych@aol.com writes:

 
In a message dated 8/4/2010 7:41:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
doctorwho8@aol.In a messag

If I'm not mistaken, Pinder had custom tapesets made so  he wouldn't have 
to change stations between his three key right hand sounds,  3 Violins, 
Brass, and Flute.


 
Mike's tape sets from MkII #134 are completely stock.  He  told me of an 
attempt to make custom tapes that did not come to  fruition.  Remember, he 
also used Tenor Sax (Station 2, Track 3) live for  the breaks on "Legend of a 
Mind", so cycling between Station 1 and 2, although  risky, was likely.
 
Frank 1



Remember, also, that they used to play "Peak Hour" live, using the  Italian 
Accordion and Church Organ (Station 6)!!!  Dare to be  bold!

Frank 1

The M4000/5000 probably is slower than the Mark II when cycling. But then  
again you run less risk of fowling the tapes. Except for random static  
causing a tape to hang now and again during playing, I have never had a single  
problem with the M4000. Cycling continues to work flawlessly.
 
 
In a message dated 8/4/2010 11:52:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
atm655@verizon.net writes:

Sounds no more limting than the 8 second play  time.
A possible advantage to the M5000 when it  arrives.
Tony

Martin, I thought that beer was the official beverage of Mellotronists. Is there a specific food that's the official food of Mellotronists? Anyway, thanks for allaying my concerns.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:

>
> Well Bernie,
> 
> How does the  time compare to an M4000?
> With an M4000/M5000, we suggest having a small glass of wine between  
> stations 1 and 2 and an a la carte meal between 1 and 8.  Light snacks and  a 
> quick one off the wrist can be included in all other  permutations, including a 
> short trip to Heligoland if you trip the optical  failsafe.  Does that help?
>  
> Best,
>  
> M
> _Streetly Electronics - All Things  Mellotronic_ 
> (http://www.mellotronics.com/)  
> NEW for iPad! _MELLOTRONICS  M3000HD_ 
> (http://www.omenie.com/M3000%20refresh/M3000_refresh/M3000_HD.html)  
> 
> _US Sales East: Jimmy  Moore_ (http://JMoore6397@.../)   
> (http://JMoore6397@.../) 
> _US Sales West: Paul Cox_ (http://pjc56@.../)   
> (http://pjc56@.../) 
> _Chloe Smith Music  
> 
> 
> _ (http://myspace.com/chloesmithmusic)
>

Hi John,

If the M4000 takes longer to change stations, I guess it's probably safer to go directly from station 1 to station 8 than it is to go from station 1 to station 6 on a MkII. I know Jerry Korb would never change more than one station at a time on his MkI.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "md1jkb" <j.k.beresford@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Bernie,
> Between adjacent stations it usually takes about 6-8 seconds from pressing the button and it releasing the keyboard lock. That's plenty of time to go from stn 1-2 in the non-tron bits of that song. From what I've seen of the M4000 it takes slightly longer as the cycling is slower; but then it doesn't need to inch either. If you've ever seen a MkII cycle it's always a bit scary - esp if the tape starts looping off!! Always have a hand near the off switch.
> bw
> John
> 
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > While listening to a live version of the Moodies' "Have You Heard/The Voyage" yesterday, I began wondering about the logistics of changing settings on a MkII while in the middle of a song. Pinder uses 3 sounds: Church Organ, Flute and 3 Violins. He uses Church Organ in the beginning, then changes to Flute for the verses. In the beginning of "The Voyage", he goes back to Church Organ and then changes to 3 Violins. When Pt 2 of "Have You Heard" begins, he uses Church Organ and Flute again. I'm assuming he kept one keyboard on Church Organ and switches the other keyboard between Flute and 3 Violins. Flute is on Station 1, Track A and 3 Violins is on Station 2, Track A. Anyone know how long it takes to change stations and have the keyboard become active again after pressing the station button? How does the time compare to an M4000?
> > 
> > Bernie
> >
>

That synth is in great condition; looks like new! Here's hoping you get what you're asking for it. If you do, will you be going for a refurbished M400, new MkVI or an M4000?

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, william Beith <wbeith@...> wrote:

>
> I am a member, infrequent contributor, lurker and current non Mellotron owner, A 
> condition which I soon hope to change.
>  
> I decided to sell my Memory Moog to finance entry into the world of Mellotrons. 
> If anyone knows a guy who might know a guy who might be interested........ the 
> unit is posted on ebay  item 200503074422.
>  
> http://cgi.ebay.com/MOOG-MEMORYMOOG-PLUS-Memory-Moog-synth-MIDI-/200503074422?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item2eaeea1e76
> 
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Bill- A non-Belgian outside Chicago  
>  
> We now return to your regularly scheduled programming..........................
>

I don't know about a buyer (sorry), but I am selling my 400...  let me know if/when you might be interested

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Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Looking to be a new owner


  
    
                  

I am a member, infrequent contributor, lurker and current non Mellotron owner, A condition which I soon hope to change.
 
I decided to sell my Memory Moog to finance entry into the world of Mellotrons. If anyone knows a guy who might know a guy who might be interested........ the unit is posted on ebay  item 200503074422.
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/MOOG-MEMORYMOOG-PLUS-Memory-Moog-synth-MIDI-/200503074422?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item2eaeea1e76
 
Thanks
 
Bill- A non-Belgian outside Chicago  
 
We now return to your regularly scheduled programming..........................

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In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:42:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tron400@yahoo.com writes:

Martin, I thought that beer was the official beverage of Mellotronists.  Is 
there a specific food that's the official food of Mellotronists? Anyway,  
thanks for allaying my  concerns.

Watcha got?
 
 
In a message dated 8/4/2010 1:53:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
skipsnips@aol.com writes:

I don't know about a buyer (sorry), but I am  selling my 400...  let me 
know if/when you might be  interested