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F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-26 by Mark Pring

" I was reminded of something- an elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb man's, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered was uncommunicable forever."

Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-26 by Bruce Daily

Two 1968 violins will do that to you. New tape set, Mark?
-Bruce D.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Mark Pring wrote:
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From: Mark Pring
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:16 PM


" I was reminded of something- an elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb man's, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered was uncommunicable forever."


Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-26 by Mark Pring

Yes, but the sound I want has proved to be elusive, I think I might need an M300 to get it and my wife most certainly won't let me go there. I haven't heard it from an M400, Mark II or M4000 to my knowledge. In some ways I think it might be better to have it as unattainable goal, the holy grail of mellotron sounds for me. In any case I have grown very fond of the Mark II strings on the old tape set.

Mark
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--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily wrote:
From: Bruce Daily
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:15 AM

Two 1968 violins will do that to you. New tape set, Mark?
-Bruce D.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Mark Pring wrote:
From: Mark Pring
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:16 PM


" I was reminded of something- an elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb man's, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered was uncommunicable forever."



RE: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-26 by John Wright

This thread had me curious.  I'm not very familiar with the M300 sound
so I listened at the Mike Dickson site.  What are some examples of
songs/bands that use M300 strings?  I'm guessing the traditional Prog
bands didn't use.
 
Thanks,
John

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[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pring
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:19 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain
the sound of the M300 violins



Yes, but the sound I want has proved to be elusive, I think I might need
an M300 to get it and my wife most certainly won't let me go there.  I
haven't heard it from an M400, Mark II  or M4000 to my knowledge. In
some ways I think it might be better to have it as unattainable goal,
the holy grail of mellotron sounds for me. In any case I have grown very
fond of the Mark II strings on the old tape set.

Mark

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:


	From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
	Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
explain the sound of the M300 violins
	To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
	Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:15 AM
	
	

	
Two 1968 violins will do that to you.  New tape set, Mark?
-Bruce D.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Mark Pring <markpringnz@ yahoo.com> wrote:


	From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@ yahoo.com>
	Subject: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
explain the sound of the M300 violins
	To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
	Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:16 PM
	
	

	" I was reminded of something- an elusive rhythm, a fragment of
lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a
phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb
man's, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of
startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered
was uncommunicable forever."

Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-26 by john barrick

Mike Pinder used one on To Our Children's Children's Children and Wooly 
played one with Barclay James Harvest, which, I believe, is the elusive 
sound that Mark wants to reproduce.



John Wright wrote:
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>
> This thread had me curious.  I'm not very familiar with the M300 sound 
> so I listened at the Mike Dickson site.  What are some examples of 
> songs/bands that use M300 strings?  I'm guessing the traditional Prog 
> bands didn't use.
>  
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pring
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:19 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to 
> explain the sound of the M300 violins
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-26 by Jon

Also Gentle Giant.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

Mike Pinder used one on To Our Children's Children's Children and Wooly
played one with Barclay James Harvest, which, I believe, is the elusive
sound that Mark wants to reproduce.

John Wright wrote:
>
> This thread had me curious. I'm not very familiar with the M300 sound
> so I listened at the Mike Dickson site. What are some examples of
> songs/bands that use M300 strings? I'm guessing the traditional Prog
> bands didn't use.
>
>; Thanks,
> John
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pring
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:19 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
> explain the sound of the M300 violins
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-26 by Mark Pring

It's the sound of the M300 played live, Barclay James Harvest Live pretty much captures it. I understand that some of the tron parts were overdubbed later in the studio as the tron broke down during the concert, so it was presumably possible to duplicate the sound in the studio. However I don't find the tron sound on the studio BJH albums very interesting nor the albums themselves if truth be told.

I think Woolly uses the Mark II 3 violins in the studio these days but uses the M300 violins live, however if his live album is anything to go by, to my ears at least they sound awful.

Mark

PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder if there is a medical term for it?
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--- On Fri, 2/27/09, john barrick wrote:
From: john barrick
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:13 AM

Mike Pinder used one on To Our Children's Children's Children and Wooly
played one with Barclay James Harvest, which, I believe, is the elusive
sound that Mark wants to reproduce.

John Wright wrote:
>
> This thread had me curious. I'm not very familiar with the M300 sound
> so I listened at the Mike Dickson site. What are some examples of
> songs/bands that use M300 strings? I'm guessing the traditional Prog
> bands didn't use.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pring
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:19 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
> explain the sound of the M300 violins
>
>


Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-27 by Bruce Daily

Try M3VSOP. Clear, slighty earthy, a bit stringy. Wonderful in a snifter ;-)
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--- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick wrote:
From: john barrick
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM

M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.

Mark Pring wrote:
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> PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder if
> there is a medical term for it?
>
> -
>
>


Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-27 by Mark Pring

Well it isn't in DSM IV but if there are enough sufferers it might make DSM V
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--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily wrote:
From: Bruce Daily
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:36 PM

Try M3VSOP. Clear, slighty earthy, a bit stringy. Wonderful in a snifter ;-)

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick wrote:

From: john barrick
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM

M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.

Mark Pring wrote:
>
>
>
>
> PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder if
> there is a medical term for it?
>
> -
>;
>



Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-27 by Dan

Mark:

If you need an M300 violins fix, try Gentle Giant's 2nd 
album 'Acquiring the Taste' and listen to the 1st song, 'Pantagruel's 
Nativity'.

This should bugger you up real good...

Cheers and best wishes for your recovery;  it's horrible, just 
horrible...

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring 
<markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Well it isn't in DSM IV but if there are enough sufferers it might 
make DSM V
> 
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
> From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to 
explain the sound of the M300 violins
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:36 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     
>             Try M3VSOP.  Clear, slighty earthy, a bit 
stringy.  Wonderful in a snifter ;-)
>  
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com> wrote:
> 
> From: john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to 
explain the sound of the M300 violins
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.
> 
> Mark Pring wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder 
if 
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> > there is a medical term for it?
> >
> > -
> >
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-27 by Rick Blechta

On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Dan wrote:

> Mark:
>
> If you need an M300 violins fix, try Gentle Giant's 2nd
> album 'Acquiring the Taste' and listen to the 1st song, 'Pantagruel's
> Nativity'.
>
> This should bugger you up real good...
>
> Cheers and best wishes for your recovery; it's horrible, just
> horrible...
>
> Dan

I can also suggest "Three Friends". The vamp at the end has wonderful  
interplay between the very-churchlike organ and the M300 they were  
using at that time. It's one of those supreme mellotron moments, IMHO.  
I only wish Kerry Minnear had used it more. I think he had a very good  
approach to the instrument.

Rick

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-27 by Mark Pring

Thanks, I think I've had the disorder for 37 years, I think it's incurable.
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--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Dan wrote:
From: Dan <dan_miso@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 3:36 AM

Mark:

If you need an M300 violins fix, try Gentle Giant's 2nd
album 'Acquiring the Taste' and listen to the 1st song, 'Pantagruel' s
Nativity'.

This should bugger you up real good...

Cheers and best wishes for your recovery; it's horrible, just
horrible...

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Mark Pring
wrote:
>
> Well it isn't in DSM IV but if there are enough sufferers it might
make DSM V
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily wrote:
> From: Bruce Daily
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
explain the sound of the M300 violins
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:36 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Try M3VSOP. Clear, slighty earthy, a bit
stringy. Wonderful in a snifter ;-)
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick wrote:
>
> From: john barrick
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
explain the sound of the M300 violins
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM
>
>
>
>
> M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.
>
> Mark Pring wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder
if
> > there is a medical term for it?
> >
> > -
> >
> >
>


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

2009-02-27 by Mark Pring

In the yeast spread world

Vegemite is M-tron
Marmite is the M4000

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--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Rick Blechta wrote:
From: Rick Blechta
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 8:44 AM


On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Mark Pring wrote:

Thanks, I think I've had the disorder for 37 years, I think it's incurable.

Oh, you poor, poor man! Try eating some vegemites...

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