The Mellotron Group

Just been listening to the end of Moonchild which has always reminded me of something and I suddenly realised that it's just like the goodbye song in Andy Pandy. Fripp is roughly the same age as me and was probably brought up with "Watch with Mother" I wonder if it is a concious or unconcious reference. 

Anyway probably more than half the group don't know what I am going on about.

Mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjK0ION3ZQk




--- Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just been listening to the end of Moonchild which
> has always reminded me of something and I suddenly
> realised that it's just like the goodbye song in
> Andy Pandy. Fripp is roughly the same age as me and
> was probably brought up with "Watch with Mother" I
> wonder if it is a concious or unconcious reference. 
> 
> Anyway probably more than half the group don't know
> what I am going on about.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>       
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Jack Younger <e4103s@...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjK0ION3ZQk

Wow! Thanks for posting that, Jack. Sure took me back. Close to 50 
years now. Thanks also to Mark for the original post. Can't say I 
immediately caught the Moonchild reference, but was not listening under 
the best of conditions, so will have to try again later.

BTW, if anyone out there ever hears of John Zorn's project called 
Moonchild, AVOID IT LIKE THE PLAGUE! It's f**king awful. They were at 
the recent Victoriaville festival 
(http://www.fimav.qc.ca/en/edition/horaire/). Joey Barron is a good 
drummer, and Trevor Dunn was ok on bass, but I could certainly do 
without Mike Patton screaming up a lung half the time. If there were 
any actual words involved they were totally unintelligible. Zorn didn't 
even play, just ran the mixing desk (oh, apart from the "encore" when 
he came out and flailed his arms about in a half-assed attempt at 
conducting. The only thing worse was his other project, the night 
before called "The Dreamers". Boring and mostly tedious lounge music. 
At least Zorn was on stage for that one, though all he did was 
more "conducting" - which hardly seemed necessary - from a chair, and 
only played on one piece, for about three minutes, max. Total waste of 
time if you ask me (you didn't? Oh, sorry. Back to 'trons, then).

Jim Bailey

I just saw the youtube of that.  That is some scary shit !  Some ominous clownlike thing and a dead teddy just barely lifting it s arm.  My mom would have

I think it was most likely the texture that Mark was
referring to.  It's not the same song by any means,
but when we're kids we latch on quite powerfully to
certain resonances.  
My obsession with the Mellotron began in very much the
same way.
 -Jack

--- James Bailey <jimab@rogers.com> wrote:

> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Jack
> Younger <e4103s@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjK0ION3ZQk
> 
> Wow! Thanks for posting that, Jack. Sure took me
> back. Close to 50 
> years now. Thanks also to Mark for the original
> post. Can't say I 
> immediately caught the Moonchild reference, but was
> not listening under 
> the best of conditions, so will have to try again
> later.
> 
> BTW, if anyone out there ever hears of John Zorn's
> project called 
> Moonchild, AVOID IT LIKE THE PLAGUE! It's f**king
> awful. They were at 
> the recent Victoriaville festival 
> (http://www.fimav.qc.ca/en/edition/horaire/). Joey
> Barron is a good 
> drummer, and Trevor Dunn was ok on bass, but I could
> certainly do 
> without Mike Patton screaming up a lung half the
> time. If there were 
> any actual words involved they were totally
> unintelligible. Zorn didn't 
> even play, just ran the mixing desk (oh, apart from
> the "encore" when 
> he came out and flailed his arms about in a
> half-assed attempt at 
> conducting. The only thing worse was his other
> project, the night 
> before called "The Dreamers". Boring and mostly
> tedious lounge music. 
> At least Zorn was on stage for that one, though all
> he did was 
> more "conducting" - which hardly seemed necessary -
> from a chair, and 
> only played on one piece, for about three minutes,
> max. Total waste of 
> time if you ask me (you didn't? Oh, sorry. Back to
> 'trons, then).
> 
> Jim Bailey
> 
>

I never had this as a child, but it was fun to watch. The world was a much  
better place when Andy was around.
 
We had Howdy Doody, a somewhat different approach to children's programing.  
I was born in 1952 and I can't remember not watching Howdy as a kid. I don't  
think any musical inspiration came out of that show, but I do believe that  
Princess Sumerfall Winterspring was my first female  fantasy.



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On Tue, 27 May 2008 lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

> I do believe that
> Princess Sumerfall Winterspring was my first female  fantasy.


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;0) jeff

ps: i might be seeing you at NEARFest this year, frank.
it's normally too rich for my blood, but the keyboard
tech was at my gig a couple weeks ago and mentioned that
RMI had requested an EMS Synthi [which i happened to be
using the night of my gig] and he said he might hook me
up with a day pass for their showdate [sunday i think].
i have not heard from him yet about this, but it might
still be happening... Duncan used my EMS a few times in
the past and apparently likes them. they also used my
m400 and jimmy's formicatron and gino's m400 on past
visits to philadelphia:

http://www.thegatherings.org/51gather.html

http://www.thegatherings.org/71gather.html

In a message dated 5/27/2008 3:17:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeffc@netaxs.com writes:

ps: i  might be seeing you at NEARFest this year, frank.
it's normally too rich  for my blood, but the keyboard
tech was at my gig a couple weeks ago and  mentioned that
RMI had requested an EMS Synthi [which i happened to  be
using the night of my gig] and he said he might hook me
up with a day  pass for their showdate [sunday i think].
i have not heard from him yet  about this, but it might
still be happening... Duncan used my EMS a few  times in
the past and apparently likes them. they also used my
m400 and  jimmy's formicatron and gino's m400 on past
visits to  philadelphia:




That would be great, Jeff, I'd love to meet you. Plus, I'd love to se the  
EMI. Was it Denis Haley that you met, or Jim Rezek?
 
Frank



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On Tue, 27 May 2008 lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

>
> In a message dated 5/27/2008 3:17:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> jeffc@netaxs.com writes:
>
> ps: i  might be seeing you at NEARFest this year, frank.
> it's normally too rich  for my blood, but the keyboard
> tech was at my gig a couple weeks ago and  mentioned that
> RMI had requested an EMS Synthi [which i happened to  be
> using the night of my gig] and he said he might hook me
> up with a day  pass for their showdate [sunday i think].
> i have not heard from him yet  about this, but it might
> still be happening... Duncan used my EMS a few  times in
> the past and apparently likes them. they also used my
> m400 and  jimmy's formicatron and gino's m400 on past
> visits to  philadelphia:
>
>
>
> That would be great, Jeff, I'd love to meet you. Plus, I'd love to se the
> EMI. Was it Denis Haley that you met, or Jim Rezek?
>
> Frank


it was denis i met.
he came up after the show and introduced himself.
it seems the gig we played ['first night out'] was something
denis had done years ago:

http://www.thegatherings.org/firstnight.html

umm, denis has a little less hair now ;0)

hope to see you in a few weeks...
i think you'll like meeting duncan and the lads from RMI too.
really great guys, and they WILL put your mellotrons through
a serious workout...

...jeff

In a message dated 5/27/2008 4:17:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeffc@netaxs.com writes:

 
 
 

it was denis i  met.
he came up after the show and introduced himself.
it seems the gig  we played ['first night out'] was something
denis had done years  ago:







Denis is a hell of a nice guy and great to work with. He knows his stuff,  
for sure. We all look a little different now then we did back then. It was kind  
interesting to see the old younger Dennis as I did not know him back then.
 
Frank



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I wonder if Andy Pandy was the influence for the Andy Panda cartoons?

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Jack Younger <e4103s@...> 
wrote:

>
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjK0ION3ZQk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
> 
> > Just been listening to the end of Moonchild which
> > has always reminded me of something and I suddenly
> > realised that it's just like the goodbye song in
> > Andy Pandy. Fripp is roughly the same age as me and
> > was probably brought up with "Watch with Mother" I
> > wonder if it is a concious or unconcious reference. 
> > 
> > Anyway probably more than half the group don't know
> > what I am going on about.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> >       
> >
>

Here are a couple for you Frank:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2W8ZVNK7W8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H-q03toUjg&NR=1

Bernie


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@... wrote:
>
> 
> I never had this as a child, but it was fun to watch. The world was 
a much  
> better place when Andy was around.
>  
> We had Howdy Doody, a somewhat different approach to children's 
programing.  
> I was born in 1952 and I can't remember not watching Howdy as a 
kid. I don't  
> think any musical inspiration came out of that show, but I do 
believe that  
> Princess Sumerfall Winterspring was my first female  fantasy.
> 
> 
> 
> **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking 
with 
> Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?
NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
>

In a message dated 5/27/2008 6:53:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kornowicz@cox.net writes:

I  wonder if Andy Pandy was the influence for the Andy Panda  cartoons?




I was thinking the same thing. It turns out that Andy Panda was created by  
Walter Lantz in 1939 and the cartoons stopped being produced in 1949 so  
perhaps it's either the other way around, or just a coincidence.
 
Frank



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In a message dated 5/27/2008 7:16:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lsf5275@aol.com writes:

I was thinking the same thing. It turns out that Andy Panda was created  by 
Walter Lantz in 1939 and the cartoons stopped being produced in  1949 so 
perhaps it's either the other way around, or just a  coincidence.
 
Frank



 
Andy Pandy was created in 1950.



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In a message dated 5/27/2008 7:01:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
kornowicz@cox.net writes:

Here  are a couple for you Frank:

_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo&<WBR>feature=re_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2W8ZVNK7W8&feature=related) 

_http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yo&<WBR_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H-q03toUjg&NR=1) 

Bernie



I loved that show. After watching, I went to visit Captain Kangaroo  next. 
Boy what great memories these shows bring. Thanks for sending me the links  B
ernie.
 
FRank



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On Wed, 28 May 2008 lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

> I loved that show. After watching, I went to visit Captain Kangaroo  next.
> Boy what great memories these shows bring. Thanks for sending me the links  B
> ernie.
>
> FRank


for the nostalgic children's tv fan, this is a slice of the 50s:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/33357/hiya-kids-a-50s-saturday-morning-box/

it's nice that it's a large across-the-board collection, rather than
10 hours of something you may not dig too much... it's more like four
different saturday mornings - one on each disc.

i grew up in the 60s, so meeting gerry anderson a few years ago was a
dream come true. remember 'thunderbirds' and 'captain scarlet' and the
other 'supermarionation' shows? he went on to produce 'UFO' and 'space
1999' amongst others... he's a really nice down-to-earth chap.

...jeff

In a message dated 5/28/2008 12:54:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jeffc@netaxs.com writes:

for  the nostalgic children's tv fan, this is a slice of the 50s:
_http://www.dvdtalk.http://www.dhttp://www.http://www.http://wwhttp://www.d_ 
(http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/33357/hiya-kids-a-50s-saturday-morning-box/) 




Oh Lord! Now I have to get one of these.
 
Frank



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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> 
wrote:
>
> This wasn't far away:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvt4b_qwC_Q&feature=related

Hey, I wonder if those "gals" near the end were an inspiration for the 
Mothers of Invention.

Jim Bailey