The financial crisis
2011-04-26 by Dieter
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The financial crisis
Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-26 by john barrick
My crisis is still raging on.
john
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Oh, is the crisis over?
Or a very normal price for this?
Dieter
Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-26 by Bruce Daily
I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? I hope it found a good home. -Bruce D. --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> wrote:
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From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT Oh, is the crisis over? Or a very normal price for this? Dieter
RE: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Gary Brumm
I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains…………
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute?
I hope it found a good home.
-Bruce D.
--- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Oh, is the crisis over?
Or a very normal price for this?
Dieter
Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by djacques@csulb.edu
Considering that three years ago a beautiful Mark II went for 12000, I would say that this buyer may have overpaid.
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From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
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I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains…………
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute?
I hope it found a good home.
-Bruce D.
--- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Oh, is the crisis over?
Or a very normal price for this?
Dieter
Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by lsf5275@aol.com
Then there are those of us with not much of either In a message dated 4/26/2011 11:55:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes: I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains…………
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about
the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s
(in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at
the last minute?
I hope it found a good home.
-Bruce D.
--- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <_dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com_
(mailto:dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com) > wrote:
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Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
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Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM
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Oh, is the crisis over?
Or a very normal price for this?
DieterRE: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Gary Brumm
I hear ya Frank!!
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Then there are those of us with not much of either
In a message dated 4/26/2011 11:55:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains…………
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute?
I hope it found a good home.
-Bruce D.
--- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Oh, is the crisis over?
Or a very normal price for this?
Dieter
Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Mike Dickson
The overarching problem with eBay is that it is pretty easy to be
entirely dishonest. Not that long ago a guy with a Hammond X to sell
made up the 'going rate' for it by staging four other 'auctions' for
a similar product and having the price go through the ceiling,
thereby setting what appeared to be the market price. People don't
really research what they see on eBay - they tend to pay what they
can afford and never consider the possibility that the seller is
really a con man. I know eBay have some forms of protection and
detection against this thing happening (as well as ghost bidding,
etc) but they cannot really hope to be effective over all
possibilities.
We've seen several cases of Mellotrons for sale over the last few years where it is pretty obvious to anyone that it's a fake sale. Maybe there are people out there who are bonkers over Chamberlins, but really - if this sale is genuine then it's way over the odds for the article, let alone an article you are effectively buying sight unseen from someone you are perhaps unlikely to meet.
On 26/04/2011 10:36, Dieter wrote:
We've seen several cases of Mellotrons for sale over the last few years where it is pretty obvious to anyone that it's a fake sale. Maybe there are people out there who are bonkers over Chamberlins, but really - if this sale is genuine then it's way over the odds for the article, let alone an article you are effectively buying sight unseen from someone you are perhaps unlikely to meet.
On 26/04/2011 10:36, Dieter wrote:
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Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Dieter
Maybe it's gonna be in the next docu about Moby's vintage stuff then :-) --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
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> > > > > > >  I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? >  >  I hope it found a good home. >  >   -Bruce D. > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> wrote: > > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > >  > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > Oh, is the crisis over? > Or a very normal price for this? > > Dieter >
Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by tron400
Frank has a new M4000 that cost less than the Chamberlin went for. I have to wonder if he's sorry he didn't save his money to bid on the Chamberlin. It would have cost only him a couple of grand more than his M4000. Bernie --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, djacques@... wrote:
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> > Considering that three years ago a beautiful Mark II went for 12000, I would say that this buyer may have overpaid. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Brumm <gabru@...> > Sender: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:55:48 > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Reply-To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brainsâ¦â¦â¦â¦ > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > > I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? > > I hope it found a good home. > > -Bruce D. > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...<mailto:dieter_vanmarcke@...>> wrote: > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...<mailto:dieter_vanmarcke@...>> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > Oh, is the crisis over? > Or a very normal price for this? > > Dieter >
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Chris Dale
I think this has to do with our beloved instruments becoming more accepted and absorbed into awareness by the pop culture.
These things are becoming less underground and more commercialized - too bad because something gets lost when that happens.
It somehow becomes trivialized, and reduced.
There has been more info than ever before on these instruments because of the internet. There's also the two Mellotron books, Dianna's movie, real thing vs lacklustre samples debate in music forums, general curiosity, mechanical engineering, music history etc.etc. etc. that make having the real thing for some people more desireable.
There's also the rarity factor - being able to buy something that might not appear again. Mellotrons are being made again, but not Chamberlins. I never believed the $35,000 Birotron story until the seller privately confirmed it to me.
There's also the condition of an instrument which will influence someone's buying decision.
I kind of see this happening as a natural course of events although I thought it would happen much slower than it is. We've seen Mellotrons' gradually going for higher and higher and more frequently, so it stands to reason that the related keyboards like the Chamberlin and Orchestron, when they do pop up will probably jump higher in ratio as well.
It truly is another era now than when most of us got into this 15, 20, or 30 years ago.
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Frank has a new M4000 that cost less than the Chamberlin went for. I have to wonder if he's sorry he didn't save his money to bid on the Chamberlin. It would have cost only him a couple of grand more than his M4000.
Bernie
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, djacques@... wrote:
>
> Considering that three years ago a beautiful Mark II went for 12000, I would say that this buyer may have overpaid.
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> -----Original Message-----> Reply-To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: Gary Brumm
> Sender: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:55:48
> I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains…………
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
>> --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter dieter_vanmarcke@...>> wrote:
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
>
>
> I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute?
>
> I hope it found a good home.
>
> -Bruce D.
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> From: Dieter dieter_vanmarcke@...>>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
> Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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> Oh, is the crisis over?
> Or a very normal price for this?
>
> Dieter
>
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Tom Doncourt
I don't see the Chamberlin as an alternative or replacement for a Mellotron. They are subtly different (as we all know)... an M4000 is an amazing machine, probably the greatest tool for a real mellotronist yet devised. Plus--buying a Chamberlin doesn't keep Harry or Richard going whereas patronage to Streetly keeps a living source for parts and technology for these machines alive. I have devised a giant piggy bank ( house sized) in which I am saving for the M5000 which will live in peace and harmony alongside the M1 and M400.
On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:45 AM, tron400 wrote:
Frank has a new M4000 that cost less than the Chamberlin went for. I have to wonder if he's sorry he didn't save his money to bid on the Chamberlin. It would have cost only him a couple of grand more than his M4000.
Bernie
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, djacques@... wrote:
>
> Considering that three years ago a beautiful Mark II went for 12000, I would say that this buyer may have overpaid.
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Brumm
> Sender: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:55:48
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
>
> I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains…………
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
>
>
> I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute?
>
> I hope it found a good home.
>
> -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter > wrote:
>
> From: Dieter >
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.comnewmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
>
> Oh, is the crisis over?
> Or a very normal price for this?
>
> Dieter
>
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by fdoddy@aol.com
I just go to PA thrift shops and antique outlets. I just purchased a fully functioning hammond t-111 for $40 to go along with the Leslie145 I got off the street for free! Yeah, I know, it's only a T-111, but it is a tonewheel hammond and Goff Pro in CT is gonna hook me up with some upgrades
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Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:17 am
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
Maybe it's gonna be in the next docu about Moby's vintage stuff then :-)
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > > > > > >  I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? >  >  I hope it found a good home. >  >   -Bruce D. > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> wrote: > > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > >  > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > Oh, is the crisis over? > Or a very normal price for this? > > Dieter >
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by fdoddy@aol.com
an M4000....sigh...one can dream.
fritz
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From: Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 10:03 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
I don't see the Chamberlin as an alternative or replacement for a Mellotron. They are subtly different (as we all know)... an M4000 is an amazing machine, probably the greatest tool for a real mellotronist yet devised. Plus--buying a Chamberlin doesn't keep Harry or Richard going whereas patronage to Streetly keeps a living source for parts and technology for these machines alive. I have devised a giant piggy bank ( house sized) in which I am saving for the M5000 which will live in peace and harmony alongside the M1 and M400.
On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:45 AM, tron400 wrote:
Frank has a new M4000 that cost less than the Chamberlin went for. I have to wonder if he's sorry he didn't save his money to bid on the Chamberlin. It would have cost only him a couple of grand more than his M4000.
Bernie
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> > Considering that three years ago a beautiful Mark II went for 12000, I would say that this buyer may have overpaid. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Brumm <gabru@...> > Sender: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:55:48 > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Reply-To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains………… > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > > I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? > > I hope it found a good home. > > -Bruce D. > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...<mailto:dieter_vanmarcke@...>>; wrote: > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...<mailto:dieter_vanmarcke@...>>; > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > Oh, is the crisis over? > Or a very normal price for this? > > Dieter >
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Rick Blechta
On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:13 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote: > an M4000....sigh...one can dream. > > fritz > > Or one can sell one's children... ;)
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by fdoddy@aol.com
mine are adults, so they are vested in their own ownership...unfortunately ;>)
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On Apr 27, 2011, at 11:13 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:
an M4000....sigh...one can dream.
fritz
Or one can sell one's children...
;)Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by lsf5275@aol.com
Good point Mike. Years ago, when I bought the Blue Mellotron on eBay, one guy kept pushing the bid. Although I prevailed, when I got to Connecticut and saw the machine I found that the seller had totally misrepresented the machine. I ended up getting him to lower the price substantially. Then I found out that the other bidder was a friend of his and had been running the bid up. When I was done with him I ended up getting the Tron for $400.00. It wasn't worth any more than that. I ended up learning a valuable lesson. I won't buy Mellotrons on eBay anymore and I do far more homework on any high ticket item I buy there. I no longer will list Mellotrons for sale on eBay either. Frank In a message dated 4/27/2011 2:57:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes: The overarching problem with eBay is that it is pretty easy to be entirely dishonest. Not that long ago a guy with a Hammond X to sell made up the 'going rate' for it by staging four other 'auctions' for a similar product and having the price go through the ceiling, thereby setting what appeared to be the market price. People don't really research what they see on eBay - they tend to pay what they can afford and never consider the possibility that the seller is really a con man. I know eBay have some forms of protection and detection against this thing happening (as well as ghost bidding, etc) but they cannot really hope to be effective over all possibilities. We've seen several cases of Mellotrons for sale over the last few years where it is pretty obvious to anyone that it's a fake sale. Maybe there are people out there who are bonkers over Chamberlins, but really - if this sale is genuine then it's way over the odds for the article, let alone an article you are effectively buying sight unseen from someone you are perhaps unlikely to meet.
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by lsf5275@aol.com
Nope In a message dated 4/27/2011 6:45:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes: Frank has a new M4000 that cost less than the Chamberlin went for. I have to wonder if he's sorry he didn't save his money to bid on the Chamberlin. It would have cost only him a couple of grand more than his M4000. Bernie --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , djacques@... wrote: > > Considering that three years ago a beautiful Mark II went for 12000, I would say that this buyer may have overpaid. > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Brumm <gabru@...> > Sender: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:55:48 > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > > Reply-To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > I think it says there are still some people in this economy with more money than brains………… > > From: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:20 PM > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > > I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? > > I hope it found a good home. > > -Bruce D. > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...<mailto:dieter_vanmarcke@...>> wrote: > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...<mailto:dieter_vanmarcke@...>> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) <mailto:_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) > > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
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Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by tron400
Good choice. Goff Pro is the very best. They're about 2 miles from my house. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bernie --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> > I just go to PA thrift shops and antique outlets. I just purchased a fully functioning hammond t-111 for $40 to go along with the Leslie145 I got off the street for free! Yeah, I know, it's only a T-111, but it is a tonewheel hammond and Goff Pro in CT is gonna hook me up with some upgrades > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:17 am > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis > > > > > > Maybe it's gonna be in the next docu about Moby's vintage stuff then :-) > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à I thought it might getà above $8000 or so.à I wonder what this says about the economy?à Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices).à Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? > > à > > à I hope it found a good home. > > à > > à à -Bruce D. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > > > > > à > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > > > Oh, is the crisis over? > > Or a very normal price for this? > > > > Dieter > > >
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Bruce Daily
By then he will have loaded it with rhythm tapes! -Bruce D. --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@yahoo.com> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:36 AM Maybe it's gonna be in the next docu about Moby's vintage stuff then :-) --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
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> > > > > > >  I thought it might get above $8000 or so. I wonder what this says about the economy? Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices). Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? >  >  I hope it found a good home. >  >   -Bruce D. > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> wrote: > > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > >  > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > Oh, is the crisis over? > Or a very normal price for this? > > Dieter >
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Mike Dickson
On 27/04/2011 16:14, Rick Blechta wrote:
Yes.
Mummy can always have more....
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Or one can sell one's children...
Yes.
Mummy can always have more....
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by fdoddy@aol.com
That would be fun!
I'm hoping to have the thing apart during the summer.
fritz
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From: tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
Good choice. Goff Pro is the very best. They're about 2 miles from my house. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood.
Bernie
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> > I just go to PA thrift shops and antique outlets. I just purchased a fully functioning hammond t-111 for $40 to go along with the Leslie145 I got off the street for free! Yeah, I know, it's only a T-111, but it is a tonewheel hammond and Goff Pro in CT is gonna hook me up with some upgrades > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:17 am > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis > > > > > > Maybe it's gonna be in the next docu about Moby's vintage stuff then :-) > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à I thought it might getà above $8000 or so.à I wonder what this says about the economy?à Of course, one Chamberlin M1 is like having 2 2/3rds M400s (in terms of voices).à Was there a bidding war between just a few bidders at the last minute? > > à > > à I hope it found a good home. > > à > > à à -Bruce D. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 4/26/11, Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@> wrote: > > > > > > From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] The financial crisis > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 3:36 AM > > > > > > à > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150590670183&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT > > > > Oh, is the crisis over? > > Or a very normal price for this? > > > > Dieter > > >
RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Mark Wallis
Leslie 145 for free? SCORE!
Best Whooshes,
msw/M400#151 ('62 C3, 2x L100, 145)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Best Whooshes,
msw/M400#151 ('62 C3, 2x L100, 145)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
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From: fdoddy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:46:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:46:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
That would be fun!
I'm hoping to have the thing apart during the summer.
fritz
I'm hoping to have the thing apart during the summer.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: tron400
To: newmellotrongroup
Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
Good choice. Goff Pro is the very best. They're about 2 miles from my house. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood.
Bernie
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
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From: tron400
To: newmellotrongroup
Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
Good choice. Goff Pro is the very best. They're about 2 miles from my house. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood.
Bernie
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> I just go to PA thrift shops and antique outlets. I just purchased a fully functioning hammond t-111 for $40 to go along with the Leslie145 I got off the street for free! Yeah, I know, it's only a T-111, but it is a tonewheel hammond and Goff Pro in CT is gonna hook me up with some upgrades
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dieter
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:17 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by lsf5275@aol.com
I got a 1960 one owner Hammond A-100 and a Leslie 22H for free from a
friend last year. It was bought new by his dad. Both are in excellent condition.
Frank
In a message dated 4/27/2011 5:52:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
markstuartwallis@hotmail.com writes:
Leslie 145 for free? SCORE!
Best Whooshes,
msw/M400#151 ('62 C3, 2x L100, 145)
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To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: fdoddy@aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:46:05 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
That would be fun!
I'm hoping to have the thing apart during the summer.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 12:34 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
Good choice. Goff Pro is the very best. They're about 2 miles from my
house. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood.
Bernie
--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , fdoddy@... wrote:
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> I just go to PA thrift shops and antique outlets. I just purchased a
fully functioning hammond t-111 for $40 to go along with the Leslie145 I got
off the street for free! Yeah, I know, it's only a T-111, but it is a
tonewheel hammond and Goff Pro in CT is gonna hook me up with some upgrades
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dieter <dieter_vanmarcke@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
> Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2011 3:17 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
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> Maybe it's gonna be in the next docu about Moby's vintage stuff then :-)
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> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
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bidders at the last minute?
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Rick Blechta
On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:18 PM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote: > > I got a 1960 one owner Hammond A-100 and a Leslie 22H for free from a friend last year. It was bought new by his dad. Both are in excellent condition. > > Frank Your friend and his dad? Glad to hear that!
Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by Thomas C. Doncourt
My father attempted to give away our home organ in 1973 when I was in my "Messian" phase..no one would take it because I was part of the package
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> > On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:18 PM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote: > >> >> I got a 1960 one owner Hammond A-100 and a Leslie 22H for free from a >> friend last year. It was bought new by his dad. Both are in excellent >> condition. >> >> Frank > > Your friend and his dad? Glad to hear that! > > >
RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by John Wright
My Hammond T400 was a freebie. Just had to haul it away from the original owner. Spent $100 to have the vibrato fixed, but worth it. The "T"s have a lot of solid state components, but a nice little two speed built in Leslie is inside. From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas C. Doncourt Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:34 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis My father attempted to give away our home organ in 1973 when I was in my "Messian" phase..no one would take it because I was part of the package > > On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:18 PM, lsf5275@aol.com <mailto:lsf5275%40aol.com> wrote:
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The financial crisis
2011-04-27 by lsf5275@aol.com
Yes, I knew it was bad syntax. I was too lazy to correct it. Thanks for the help though. In a message dated 4/27/2011 6:20:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rick@rickblechta.com writes: On Apr 27, 2011, at 6:18 PM, _lsf5275@aol.com_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com) wrote: I got a 1960 one owner Hammond A-100 and a Leslie 22H for free from a friend last year. It was bought new by his dad. Both are in excellent condition. Frank Your friend and his dad? Glad to hear that!