The Mellotron Group

>
> Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> using what you describe below.
> 
> Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was nothing bnut
> marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers but it's
> nonsense.
> 
> There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> they stuck to the Optigan format.
> All of the discs  stacked in one system would have been a good idea too!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a volume pedal
> > on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells & cut
> > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might sound
> > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise filtering.
> > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality technology (like
> > a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry, and
> > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs) what the
> > result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all the
> > sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never having to
> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.
> >
> > 
> >
>

>
> Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> using what you describe below.
> 
> Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was nothing bnut
> marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers but it's
> nonsense.
> 
> There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> they stuck to the Optigan format.
> All of the discs  stacked in one system would have been a good idea too!!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a volume pedal
> > on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells & cut
> > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might sound
> > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise filtering.
> > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality technology (like
> > a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry, and
> > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs) what the
> > result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all the
> > sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never having to
> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.
> >
> > 
> >
>

> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control  keyboard.
> >
> > 
> >
>

>
> It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't  
> imagine Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even though 
> he  had a really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I want one. 
> In  fact, I sooo don't want one at this point, I really want Nancy Pelosi 
> to have  one. And I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
>  
>  
> In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> charel196@... writes:
> 
>  
>  
>  
> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins disc  
> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I read 
> long  ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
> 
> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
> (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >
> > Orchestrons can  made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> > using what  you describe below.
> > 
> > Vako never had the budget for the laser  reader and it was nothing bnut
> > marketing. I have stickers on my that  say it's read by lasers but it's
> > nonsense.
> > 
> > There were  suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> > they  stuck to the Optigan format.
> > All of the discs stacked in one system  would have been a good idea too!!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
> >  
> > >
> > >
> > > After watching several Youtube videos  of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> > > Hicks' recent posting) I am  amazed no one ever seems to use a volume 
> pedal
> > > on the thing and a  good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells 
> & cut
> > >  offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might  
> sound
> > > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some  noise filtering.
> > > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use  higher quality technology 
> (like
> > > a laser for reading the discs,  better motors and audio circuitry, and
> > > thicker and more rigid  records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs) 
> what the
> > > result  might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all 
> the
> > >  sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never 
> having  to
> > > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control  keyboard.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

> I have a suggestion where Nancy Pelosi can put it!.....probably won\u2019t
> make it sound any better though\u2026\u2026\u2026..
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:31 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Youtube Orchestron demos
>
>
> It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't
> imagine Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even
> though he had a really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I
> want one. In fact, I sooo don't want one at this point, I really want
> Nancy Pelosi to have one. And I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> charel196@yahoo.com<mailto:charel196@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>
> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins disc
> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I read
> long ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
>
> --- In
> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...<mailto:unobtainiumkeys@...>> wrote:
>>
>> Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron)
>> by
>> using what you describe below.
>>
>> Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was nothing bnut
>> marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers but it's
>> nonsense.
>>
>> There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy
>> and
>> they stuck to the Optigan format.
>> All of the discs stacked in one system would have been a good idea
>> too!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles
>> <charel196@...<mailto:charel196@...>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like Pea
>> > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a volume
>> pedal
>> > on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells
>> & cut
>> > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might
>> sound
>> > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise filtering.
>> > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality technology
>> (like
>> > a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry, and
>> > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs)
>> what the
>> > result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all
>> the
>> > sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never
>> having to
>> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

> \u2026.this is not the place to debate your anti-American, communist
> ignorance\u2026\u2026.let it go\u2026..
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas C.
> Doncourt
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:14 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Youtube Orchestron demos
>
>
>
> I think Palin could fit two as long as you want to bring politics onto
> this page
>
>> I have a suggestion where Nancy Pelosi can put it!.....probably
>> wonâ\u20ac\u2122t
>> make it sound any better thoughâ\u20ac¦â\u20ac¦â\u20ac¦..
>>
>> From:
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>]
>> On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com<mailto:lsf5275%40aol.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:31 PM
>> To:
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Youtube Orchestron demos
>>
>>
>> It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't
>> imagine Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even
>> though he had a really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less
>> I
>> want one. In fact, I sooo don't want one at this point, I really want
>> Nancy Pelosi to have one. And I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
>>
>> In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> charel196@yahoo.com<mailto:charel196%40yahoo.com><mailto:charel196@yahoo.com<mailto:charel196%40yahoo.com>>
>> writes:
>>
>>
>> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins
>> disc
>> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I
>> read
>> long ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
>>
>> --- In
>> newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>,
>> Chris Dale
>> <unobtainiumkeys@...<mailto:unobtainiumkeys@...<mailto:unobtainiumkeys@...%3cmailto:unobtainiumkeys@...>>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron)
>>> by
>>> using what you describe below.
>>>
>>> Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was nothing bnut
>>> marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers but it's
>>> nonsense.
>>>
>>> There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy
>>> and
>>> they stuck to the Optigan format.
>>> All of the discs stacked in one system would have been a good idea
>>> too!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles
>>> <charel196@...<mailto:charel196@...<mailto:charel196@...%3cmailto:charel196@...>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like
>>> Pea
>>> > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a volume
>>> pedal
>>> > on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more realistic
>>> swells
>>> & cut
>>> > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might
>>> sound
>>> > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise
>>> filtering.
>>> > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality technology
>>> (like
>>> > a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry,
>>> and
>>> > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs)
>>> what the
>>> > result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all
>>> the
>>> > sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never
>>> having to
>>> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

>  Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...<mailto:unobtainiumkeys@...>>  wrote:
>>
>> Orchestrons can made to sound really good  (different than a Mellotron)
>> by
>> using what you  describe below.
>>
>> Vako never had the budget for the  laser reader and it was nothing bnut
>> marketing. I have stickers on  my that say it's read by lasers but it's
>>  nonsense.
>>
>> There were suppsedly some glass test discs  made but those broke easy
>> and
>> they stuck to the  Optigan format.
>> All of the discs stacked in one system would have  been a good idea
>>  too!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan  31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles
>>  <charel196@...<mailto:charel196@...>>  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > After  watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like Pea
>>  > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a  volume
>> pedal
>> > on the thing and a good long  delay/reverb to get more realistic swells
>> & cut
>>  > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things  might
>> sound
>> > good if properly played with a pedal  & run thru some noise filtering.
>> > I wonder if Vako had had  the budget to use higher quality technology
>> (like
>> >  a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry,  and
>> > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy  Optigan discs)
>> what the
>> > result might have been?  An Orchestron could have been built with all
>> the
>> >  sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never
>>  having to
>> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master  control keyboard.
>> >
>> >
>>  >
>>
>
>

>>> > > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.
>>> > >
>>> > > 
>>> > >
>> >
> 
>  
>    
> 
>>>

It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't imagine Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even though he had a really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I want one. In fact, I sooo don't want one at this point, I really want Nancy Pelosi to have one. And I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.

In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charel196@yahoo.com writes:

In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins disc sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I read long ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com , Chris Dale wrote:
>
> Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> using what you describe below.
>
> Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was nothing bnut
> marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers but it's
> nonsense.
>
> There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> they ;stuck to the Optigan format.
> All of the discs stacked in one system would have been a good idea too!!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a volume pedal
> > on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells & cut
> > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might sound
> > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise filtering.
> > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality technology (like
> > a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry, and
> > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs) what the
> > result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all the
> > sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never having to
> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.
> >
> >
> >
>

;

Wow! I've never heard that before, Mattias, but I love it.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, mattias wrote:

Youve probably all seen it before...

But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw

The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.

// Mattias

>
> Orchestrons can  made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> using what  you describe below.
>
> Vako never had the budget for the laser  reader and it was nothing bnut
> marketing. I have stickers on my that  say it's read by lasers but it's
> nonsense.
>
> There were  suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> they  stuck to the Optigan format.
> All of the discs stacked in one system  would have been a good idea too!!
>
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@...<mailto:charel196@...>> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > After watching several Youtube videos  of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> > Hicks' recent posting) I am  amazed no one ever seems to use a volume pedal
> > on the thing and a  good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells & cut
> >  offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might  sound
> > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some  noise filtering.
> > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use  higher quality technology (like
> > a laser for reading the discs,  better motors and audio circuitry, and
> > thicker and more rigid  records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs) what the
> > result  might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all the
> >  sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never having  to
> > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control  keyboard.
> >
> >
> >
>

Hey kids,

As some of you might know I am a fan of the whole optical family. The Orchestron, the Optigan and the Chilton Talentmaker. I realize that maybe it isnt everybodys idea of a good time but all three instruments are great tools in the studio and have become a integral part of my setup....but when it comes to quality you are all right. In comparison to the Mellotron the Orchestron may not be a clear and Hi fi but on the other hand the Orchestron and its cousins with the added noise and crackles bring something else to a production. As soon as you show someone the instruments they all say \u201c Its sounds like an old black and white movie.\u201d What I do is that I always double track it and use a fair amount of spring reverb.

Pea hicks has also added some new sounds like the tremolo electric guitar and marimba rolls that are really great.

Anyways.

Youve probably all seen it before...

But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw

The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.

// Mattias

>
> Very nice Mattias!
> Pete
> 
> On 2/2/11 1:38 AM, mattias wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey kids,
> >
> > As some of you might know I am a fan of the whole optical family. The 
> > Orchestron, the Optigan and the Chilton Talentmaker. I realize that 
> > maybe it isnt everybodys idea of a good time but all three instruments 
> > are great tools in the studio and have become a integral part of my 
> > setup....but when it comes to quality you are all right. In comparison 
> > to the Mellotron the Orchestron may not be a clear and Hi fi but on 
> > the other hand the Orchestron and its cousins with the added noise and 
> > crackles bring something else to a production. As soon as you show 
> > someone the instruments they all say " Its sounds like an old black 
> > and white movie."  What I do is that I always double track it and use 
> > a fair amount of spring reverb.
> >
> > Pea hicks has also added some new sounds like the tremolo electric 
> > guitar  and marimba rolls that are really great.
> >
> > Anyways.
> >
> > Youve probably all seen it before...
> >
> > But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw
> >
> > The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.
> >
> > // Mattias
> >
> >
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 1, 2011 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Youtube Orchestron demos


  
    
                  

 
 
Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by using what you describe below.
 
Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was nothing bnut marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers but it's nonsense.
 
There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and they stuck to the Optigan format.

All of the discs  stacked in one system would have been a good idea too!!
 
 

 
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:

  

After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like Pea Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a volume pedal on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells & cut offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might sound good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise filtering.
I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality technology (like a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry, and thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs) what the result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all the sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never having to be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.

>
> Hey kids,
> 
> As some of you might know I am a fan of the whole optical family. The
> Orchestron, the Optigan and the Chilton Talentmaker. I realize that maybe it
> isnt everybodys idea of a good time but all three instruments are great
> tools in the studio and have become a integral part of my setup....but when
> it comes to quality you are all right. In comparison to the Mellotron the
> Orchestron may not be a clear and Hi fi but on the other hand the Orchestron
> and its cousins with the added noise and crackles bring something else to a
> production. As soon as you show someone the instruments they all say ³ Its
> sounds like an old black and white movie.²  What I do is that I always
> double track it and use a fair amount of spring reverb.
> 
> Pea hicks has also added some new sounds like the tremolo electric guitar
> and marimba rolls that are really great.
> 
> Anyways.
> 
> Youve probably all seen it before...
> 
> But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw
> 
> The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.
> 
> // Mattias
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Den 2011-02-02 01.31, skrev "lsf5275@..." <lsf5275@...>:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >    
> > 
> > It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't imagine
> > Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even though he had a
> > really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I want one. In fact, I
> > sooo don't want one at this point, I really want Nancy Pelosi to have one. And
> > I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
> >  
> > In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > charel196@... writes:
> >>    
> >>  
> >> 
> >> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins disc
> >> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I read
> >> long  ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
> >> 
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> ,  Chris Dale
> >> <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Orchestrons can  made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> >>> > using what  you describe below.
> >>> > 
> >>> > Vako never had the budget for the laser  reader and it was nothing bnut
> >>> > marketing. I have stickers on my that  say it's read by lasers but it's
> >>> > nonsense.
> >>> > 
> >>> > There were  suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> >>> > they  stuck to the Optigan format.
> >>> > All of the discs stacked in one system  would have been a good idea too!!
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> > 
> >>> >  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
> >>> >  
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > After watching several Youtube videos  of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> >>>> > > Hicks' recent posting) I am  amazed no one ever seems to use a volume
> >>>> pedal
> >>>> > > on the thing and a  good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells
> >>>> & cut
> >>>> > >  offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might
> >>>> sound
> >>>> > > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some  noise filtering.
> >>>> > > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use  higher quality technology
> >>>> (like
> >>>> > > a laser for reading the discs,  better motors and audio circuitry, and
> >>>> > > thicker and more rigid  records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs)
> >>>> what the
> >>>> > > result  might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all
> the
> >>>> > >  sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never
> >>>> having  to
> >>>> > > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control  keyboard.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > 
> >>>> > >
> >>> >
> >> 
> >>  
> >>  
> >>    
> >> 
> >>>>
>

>
> Mattias:
> So the violin/cello sound on 'Boys and Girls' is Orchestron?
> 
> Dan
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, mattias <Mattias.olsson5@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey kids,
> > 
> > As some of you might know I am a fan of the whole optical family. The
> > Orchestron, the Optigan and the Chilton Talentmaker. I realize that maybe it
> > isnt everybodys idea of a good time but all three instruments are great
> > tools in the studio and have become a integral part of my setup....but when
> > it comes to quality you are all right. In comparison to the Mellotron the
> > Orchestron may not be a clear and Hi fi but on the other hand the Orchestron
> > and its cousins with the added noise and crackles bring something else to a
> > production. As soon as you show someone the instruments they all say ³ Its
> > sounds like an old black and white movie.²  What I do is that I always
> > double track it and use a fair amount of spring reverb.
> > 
> > Pea hicks has also added some new sounds like the tremolo electric guitar
> > and marimba rolls that are really great.
> > 
> > Anyways.
> > 
> > Youve probably all seen it before...
> > 
> > But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw
> > 
> > The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.
> > 
> > // Mattias
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Den 2011-02-02 01.31, skrev "lsf5275@" <lsf5275@>:
> > 
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >    
> > > 
> > > It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't imagine
> > > Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even though he had a
> > > really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I want one. In fact, I
> > > sooo don't want one at this point, I really want Nancy Pelosi to have one. And
> > > I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
> > >  
> > > In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > charel196@ writes:
> > >>    
> > >>  
> > >> 
> > >> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins disc
> > >> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I read
> > >> long  ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
> > >> 
> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > >> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> ,  Chris Dale
> > >> <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Orchestrons can  made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> > >>> > using what  you describe below.
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > Vako never had the budget for the laser  reader and it was nothing bnut
> > >>> > marketing. I have stickers on my that  say it's read by lasers but it's
> > >>> > nonsense.
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > There were  suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> > >>> > they  stuck to the Optigan format.
> > >>> > All of the discs stacked in one system  would have been a good idea too!!
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > 
> > >>> >  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
> > >>> >  
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > After watching several Youtube videos  of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> > >>>> > > Hicks' recent posting) I am  amazed no one ever seems to use a volume
> > >>>> pedal
> > >>>> > > on the thing and a  good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells
> > >>>> & cut
> > >>>> > >  offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might
> > >>>> sound
> > >>>> > > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some  noise filtering.
> > >>>> > > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use  higher quality technology
> > >>>> (like
> > >>>> > > a laser for reading the discs,  better motors and audio circuitry, and
> > >>>> > > thicker and more rigid  records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs)
> > >>>> what the
> > >>>> > > result  might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all
> > the
> > >>>> > >  sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never
> > >>>> having  to
> > >>>> > > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control  keyboard.
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > 
> > >>>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >> 
> > >>  
> > >>  
> > >>    
> > >> 
> > >>>>
> >
>

From: mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Youtube Orchestron demos
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 2:04 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      


...and another for clarks shoes.



I sold out and didnt even get a pair free shoes.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIYHVYxpos8





Den 2011-02-02 07.55, skrev "john barrick" <barrickjohn262@gmail.com>:



 

 

 

   



Wow!  I've never heard that before, Mattias, but I love it.



On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se> wrote:



Youve probably all seen it before...



But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw



The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.



// Mattias

Wonderful.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Robert wrote:

Very nice work Mattias (audio and video) ! Never heard of this "piece" before. Something I must purchase.

Upon listening to the beginning of your first post, it sounded like something Stina Nordenstam might do. She is also from Stockholm and I wouldn't be surprised if you know of her. I like her work too...

Robert


--- On Wed, 2/2/11, mattias <;Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se> wrote:

From: mattias
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Youtube Orchestron demos
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 2:04 AM

...and another for clarks shoes.

I sold out and didnt even get a pair free shoes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIYHVYxpos8


Den 2011-02-02 07.55, skrev "john barrick" :

Wow! I've never heard that before, Mattias, but I love it.

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, mattias wrote:

Youve probably all seen it before...

But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw

The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.

// Mattias

Mattias:
So the violin/cello sound on 'Boys and Girls' is Orchestron?

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com , mattias >
> Hey kids,
>
> As some of you might know I am a fan of the whole optical family. The
> Orchestron, the Optigan and the Chilton Talentmaker. I realize that maybe it
> isnt everybodys idea of a good time but all three instruments are great
> tools in the studio and have become a integral part of my setup....but when
> it comes to quality you are all right. In comparison to the Mellotron the
> Orchestron may not be a clear and Hi fi but on the other hand the Orchestron
> and its cousins with the added noise and crackles bring something else to a
> production. As soon as you show someone the instruments they all say \u201c Its
> sounds like an old black and white movie.\u201d What I do is that I always
> double track it and use a fair amount of spring reverb.
>
> Pea hicks has also added some new sounds like the tremolo electric guitar
> and marimba rolls that are really great.
>
> Anyways.
>
> Youve probably all seen it before...
>
> But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw
>
> The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.
>
> // Mattias
>
>
>
>
> Den 2011-02-02 01.31, skrev "lsf5275@..." :
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't imagine
> > Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even though he had a
> > really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I want one. In fact, I
> > sooo don't want one at this point, I really want Nancy Pelosi to have one. And
> > I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
> >
> > In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > charel196@... writes:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins disc
> >> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I read
> >> long ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
> >>
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> , Chris Dale
> >> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Orchestrons can made to sound really good (different than a Mellotron) by
> >>> > using what you describe below.
> >>> >
> >>> > Vako never had the budget for the laser reader and it was nothing bnut
> >>> > marketing. I have stickers on my that say it's read by lasers but it's
> >>> > nonsense.
> >>> >
> >>> > There were suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke easy and
> >>> >; they stuck to the Optigan format.
> >>> > All of the discs stacked in one system would have been a good idea too!!
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles wrote:
> >>> >
> >>>> > >
> >>>;> > >
> >>>> > > After watching several Youtube videos of Orchestron playing (like Pea
> >>>> > > Hicks' recent posting) I am amazed no one ever seems to use a volume
> >>>> pedal
> >>>> >; > on the thing and a good long delay/reverb to get more realistic swells
> >>>> & cut
> >>>> > > offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those things might
> >>>> sound
> >>>> > >; good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some noise filtering.
> >>>> > > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use higher quality technology
> >>>> (like
> >>>> > > a laser for reading the discs, better motors and audio circuitry, and
> >>>> > > thicker and more rigid records instead of the flimsy Optigan discs)
> >>>> what the
> >>>> > > result might have been? An Orchestron could have been built with all
>; the
> >>>> > > sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet never
> >>>> having to
> >>>> > > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control keyboard.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
>

>
> Sorry for the delay
> 
> Boys & girls are
> 
> In order...(if i remember it correctly)
> 
> Optigan Guitar in 3/4 reversed in one channel forwards in the other
> Mellotron Wineglasses
> 3 Violins doubletracked
> Cello underneath.
> Orchestron violins sneaking up at the end.
> Orchestron flutes doing the cluster thing.
> 
> 
> // M
> 
> Den 2011-02-02 16.13, skrev "'tronster" <dan_miso@...>:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >    
> > 
> > Mattias:
> > So the violin/cello sound on 'Boys and Girls' is Orchestron?
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> , mattias <Mattias.olsson5@>
> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hey kids,
> >> > 
> >> > As some of you might know I am a fan of the whole optical family. The
> >> > Orchestron, the Optigan and the Chilton Talentmaker. I realize that maybe
> >> it
> >> > isnt everybodys idea of a good time but all three instruments are great
> >> > tools in the studio and have become a integral part of my setup....but when
> >> > it comes to quality you are all right. In comparison to the Mellotron the
> >> > Orchestron may not be a clear and Hi fi but on the other hand the
> >> Orchestron
> >> > and its cousins with the added noise and crackles bring something else to a
> >> > production. As soon as you show someone the instruments they all say ³ Its
> >> > sounds like an old black and white movie.²  What I do is that I always
> >> > double track it and use a fair amount of spring reverb.
> >> > 
> >> > Pea hicks has also added some new sounds like the tremolo electric guitar
> >> > and marimba rolls that are really great.
> >> > 
> >> > Anyways.
> >> > 
> >> > Youve probably all seen it before...
> >> > 
> >> > But here is a video from my all Optigan/orchestron/mellotron band AK-momo
> >> > 
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccnO487xIAw
> >> > 
> >> > The main string sound melody is from the Orchestron.
> >> > 
> >> > // Mattias
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Den 2011-02-02 01.31, skrev "lsf5275@" <lsf5275@>:
> >> > 
> >>> > >  
> >>> > >  
> >>> > >  
> >>> > >    
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > It looks and sounds like an amazing piece of shit, doesn't it? I can't
> >>> imagine
> >>> > > Pat Moraz could have ever been remotely thrilled with it, even though he
> >>> had a
> >>> > > really jazzy one. The more I see and hear them the less I want one. In
> >>> fact, I
> >>> > > sooo don't want one at this point, I really want Nancy Pelosi to have
> >>> one. And
> >>> > > I want it to sound just like Pea Hicks'.
> >>> > >  
> >>> > > In a message dated 2/1/2011 6:19:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >>> > > charel196@ writes:
> >>>> > >>    
> >>>> > >>  
> >>>> > >> 
> >>>> > >> In the Pea Hicks video when he's demo'ing the Orchestron, the violins
> disc
> >>>> > >> sounds a lot like they sampled Mellotron violins too me. I thought I
> read
> >>>> > >> long  ago that Vako used a Mellotron to make some of the discs.
> >>>> > >> 
> >>>> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>> > >> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> ,  Chris Dale
> >>>> > >> <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>>>> > >>> > Orchestrons can  made to sound really good (different than a
> >>>>>> Mellotron) by
> >>>>>> > >>> > using what  you describe below.
> >>>>>> > >>> > 
> >>>>>> > >>> > Vako never had the budget for the laser  reader and it was
> >>>>>> nothing bnut
> >>>>>> > >>> > marketing. I have stickers on my that  say it's read by lasers
> >>>>>> but it's
> >>>>>> > >>> > nonsense.
> >>>>>> > >>> > 
> >>>>>> > >>> > There were  suppsedly some glass test discs made but those broke
> >>>>>> easy and
> >>>>>> > >>> > they  stuck to the Optigan format.
> >>>>>> > >>> > All of the discs stacked in one system  would have been a good
> >>>>>> idea too!!
> >>>>>> > >>> > 
> >>>>>> > >>> > 
> >>>>>> > >>> > 
> >>>>>> > >>> > 
> >>>>>> > >>> >  On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> >  
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > After watching several Youtube videos  of Orchestron playing
> (like Pea
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > Hicks' recent posting) I am  amazed no one ever seems to use
> a volume
> >>>>>> > >>>> pedal
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > on the thing and a  good long delay/reverb to get more
> >>>>>>>> realistic swells
> >>>>>> > >>>> & cut
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >  offs & smoothing over the loop glitches. I think those
> >>>>>>>> things might
> >>>>>> > >>>> sound
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > good if properly played with a pedal & run thru some  noise
> filtering.
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > I wonder if Vako had had the budget to use  higher quality
> technology
> >>>>>> > >>>> (like
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > a laser for reading the discs,  better motors and audio
> >>>>>>>> circuitry, and
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > thicker and more rigid  records instead of the flimsy
> >>>>>>>> Optigan discs)
> >>>>>> > >>>> what the
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > result  might have been? An Orchestron could have been built
> with all
> >> > the
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >  sound/optical records placed stacked in a seperate cabinet
> never
> >>>>>> > >>>> having  to
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > > be touched and accessed remotely by a master control
> keyboard.
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >>> >
> >>>> > >> 
> >>>> > >>  
> >>>> > >>  
> >>>> > >>    
> >>>> > >> 
> >>>>>> > >>>>
> >> >
> > 
> >  
> >    
> > 
> >>>
>