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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: New Video with Mellotron Mk. VI

2013-03-19 by lsf5275@aol.com

Nah... that's over-simplification. A properly working keyboard is all  
dependant on relationships. It's not just how fast you can play it, it's about  
consistency. Does each key played maximize the sound of the tape passing 
under  it? Is there consistency in volume and EQ from note to note? When 
blending  tracks, does the blend sound similar from note to note? Example: 
Blending  strings and cello... a little more cello than strings on this key... a 
little  more strings than cello on the next, and so on, all over the keyboard.
 
It is possible to not only get an incredibly light action, but incredible  
presence and consistency from note to note, track by track, to the maximum  
capability of the recorded tape if the keyboard is set up exactly right. 
This is  very subjective and the formula you show below is a compromise.
 
Even changing frames can change playability. Different frames often  have 
different amounts of friction in the 35 individual tape paths, due to  spring 
tension, whether the turnbuckles are set up correctly and how much they  
rub against the separators, how well the plastic rollers spin, etc. It's all  
about friction, friction, friction.
 
That leads me to pinch rollers. New ones are far superior to old ones. They 
 grab the tape with less pressure. Pressure pads with good felt, properly 
aligned  to the heads require less pressure. Friction, friction, friction.
 
So here's a simple formula to get the most out of every frame. You need  
enough roller pressure on each key to pull the tape all the way  to the end 
without loss of pitch. No more... no less. You need enough pressure  from the 
pad (once properly aligned to the head) such that when a key is  depressed, 
as the tape moves progressively forward, consistency of  volume is 
maintained for the full time the key is depressed.
 
As the tape gets pulled forward, the return spring tension increases.  
Especially near the end, as the turnbuckles approach the limits of their travel, 
 tape tension is going to tend to lift the pressure pad a bit, causing loss 
of  volume and clarity, The objective, therefore is to only apply  enough 
pressure pad adjustment to keep that pad against the head until the tape  is 
at the end. No more, no less. 
 
Making these adjustments means going back and forth a bit setting pad and  
corresponding roller tension for each key.
 
These adjustments are ENTIRELY subjective, although less so on a Mellotron  
that has been properly set up by an expert. When I work on a machine, for 
me the  keyboard and head block are the heart and soul of the machine. Power 
supplies,  motors and preamps are easier. Component values and performance 
aren't  subjective... they are measured. Keyboard setup takes hours of work. 
Head  azimuths must be set first. When they re right, then you can match the 
pads to  the heads.
 
You want your Mellotron to sound and play great? Perfect it. But remember.  
Friction is the enemy. The less, the better, The less you need to pull the 
tape,  the better. Old pinch rollers can not be "reconditioned". Buying new 
ones is one  of the very best investments you can make.
 
It's all about relationships.
 
Frank
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/19/2013 12:26:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
Following is the method I learned from Jerry K and Ken L recently (for  
M400's only!).

DISCLAIMER: This is what I remember with the remainder  of my aging brain 
cells. If I've missed anything or something is unclear or  illogical, please 
correct.

1. Carefully remove the L-shaped stop bar  over the keys.
2. Adjust the hex nuts at the rear of each key so that all  the keys float 
evenly and not too high.
3. Replace the stop  bar.

Then for each key:

1. Back off the pinch roller and pad  screw until there is no sound and no 
tape movement.
2. Adjust the pinch  roller screw until the tape just starts to move 
(remove the back panel so you  can see the tape movement).
3. Adjust the pad screw until sound  appears.
4. Adjust the pinch roller screw until the tape stalls, then turn  the 
screw 1.5 turns clockwise.
5. Adjust the pad screw until there is no  sound, then turn the screw 3/4 
turn clockwise.
4. Repeat steps 4 and  5.

After following this procedure, I can easily and effortlessly do a  
glissando across the keyboard. 

Bernie

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
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> Ummm....    Little purple pills?
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> Â  -Bruce  D.
> Â  #1221
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>  ________________________________
> From: matthew meixner  <ccstickleback@...>
> To: "_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >  
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] re: New Video with Mellotron Mk. VI
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> Hi gang,
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> What is  this method for improving action?  
> Â 
> Matt
>  
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "lsf5275@..."  <lsf5275@...>
> To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 12:31 PM
> Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] re: New Video with Mellotron Mk. VI
> 
>  Â  
> Well, I'm happy I could do at least something to help.  
> 
> In a message dated 3/18/2013 12:38:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight  Time, 
> rjtr2958@... writes: 
> Â  
> >Thanks  Frank. 
> >Â  
> >It's only fair to add that the fact  that I was able to play that 
relatively fast lead line on the Mk. VI and it  sounded ok was due to your tips on 
improving the action. 
> >Â   
> >Thanks again. 
> >Â  
> >Rick 
>  >
> > 
> >
>  >________________________________
> >From: "lsf5275@..."  <lsf5275@...>
> >To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)   
> >Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:37 PM
> >Subject: Re:  [newmellotrongroup] re: New Video with Mellotron Mk. VI
> > 
>  >Â  
> >Really nice Rick! 
> >
> >Frank  
> >
> >In a message dated 3/17/2013 1:24:22 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time, 
rjtr2958@... writes: 
> >_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QotLuE0rPs_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QotLuE0rPs) 
>

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