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Re: mike pinder's sound

2008-01-23 by Bernie

The only time I saw the Moodies with Pinder (Bushnell Memorial, circa 
1968-69?), he ran his MkII through an ARB PA system. I assume this 
was their vocal PA system because they used the house system for 
vocals. The 2 cabinets were stacked to the left side of his MkII (he 
was on the left, facing center stage). The sound was incredible.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, djacques@... wrote:
>
> Mike also ran his tron through a Marshall or hiwatt. That would 
explain the midrange spike.  
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@...>
> 
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:58:09 
> To:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: mike pinder's sound
> 
> 
> Hi all-
>  
>  A late response to this thread-
>  
>  I have also been curious about Mike Pinder's custom
>  MK2 preamp equalization. It is not just "warmer"
>  sounding, it also seems to have a sharp cutoff around
>  10kHz, and a response hump in the midrange. I got
>  this impression from listening to the comparisons on
>  Ken Leonard's site (between Frank's MK2 and Jerry
>  Korb's MK1). Maybe Pinder got too much high freq
>  noise and distortion with the layered recording
>  process he used for the 'tron, and customized the eq
>  to compensate. Maybe his eq worked better with the
>  stage amps of the day. His 'tron sound does cut
>  through pretty well in "Caught Live +5"; try to
>  imagine the recording with a bright 'tron. Does
>  anyone have some more insight on this?
>  
>  My 'tron seems to have original '70s tapes, and the
>  obvious M400 3-Violins. These re-eq'd violins seem
>  like an homage to Pinder's eq curve, but with a little
>  bit more high-end.
>  
>  Sounds like the drone in "Question" may have been a
>  half-speed brass of some kind. The opening fanfare
>  (on the orig. album)is anyone's guess. He was also
>  incorporating his Moog a lot on "AQOB".
>  
>  -Bruce D.
>  M400 #1221
>  
>  --- Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh. <mailto:tomdcour%40amnh.org> org> 
wrote:
>  
>  > > Two things- one is that he used the M300 strings
>  > quite a bit (in the studio),
>  > the other is that he refitted his MkII with a
>  > transistor preamp and it has a
>  > warmer sound as a result.Since Frank owns one of
>  > those he would be best to ask.
>  > I still can't quite figure out what the mix is on
>  > Question, it is amazing.
>  > 
>  > 
>  > I have been listening to a lot of Moody Blues lately
>  > and it seems obvious
>  > that 
>  > > Pinder's 3 Violins sound is much mellower than
>  > other's, King Crimson for
>  > > example. Does he mix in other voices into his
>  > sound or is it the way his tron
>  > > is eq'ed? This occurs in both the live and studio
>  > recordings.
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>  > > 
>  > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > From: "jaybe52000" <jaybe52000@yahoo. <mailto:jaybe52000%
40yahoo.com> com>
>  > > 
>  > > Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:26:11
>  > > To:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
>  > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Empty tape frame
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > I've got a set of tapes in a box that are from the
>  > old DMI days (old DMI Union
>  > > Jack 
>  > > Mellotron Label on it). I got it as part of the
>  > deal when I bought my RMI
>  > > Keyboard 
>  > > Computer II and never got around to racking them
>  > and don't want to muck with
>  > > the tapes 
>  > > on the two frames in my Mark V.
>  > > 
>  > > The box says it's got Violins/Viola/Flute but I'm
>  > not really certain that's
>  > > what they are.
>  > > The guy that I got them from said they were
>  > "Brand new" but they look like
>  > > they might be 
>  > > used so I was thinking the could be an original
>  > set with
>  > > Flute/3-Violins/Cello.
>  > > 
>  > > Either way, I'd like to make 'em playable just to
>  > see what they are.
>  > > 
>  > > As I said in a previous post I've got flute on
>  > one of my frames and the 3
>  > > violins are on the
>  > > other but I don't have cello or viola so that
>  > would be nice, especially if
>  > > they really are a
>  > > standard set since i really miss having the
>  > cello.
>  > > 
>  > > John
>  > > 
>  > > --- In newmellotrongroup@
>  > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > > yahoogroups.com, "Bernie" <kornowicz@> wrote:
>  > >> 
>  > >> No empty frame, but out of curiosity, what sounds
>  > to you plan on
>  > >> installing?
>  > >> 
>  > >> Bernie
>  > >> 
>  > >> 
>  > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@
>  > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
>  > >> yahoogroups.com, "jaybe52000" <jaybe52000@>
>  > >> wrote:
>  > >>> 
>  > >>> Anyone got an empty tape frame that they want to
>  > sell?
>  > >>> 
>  > >>> Thought I'd ask before ordering from one of our
>  > two providers of new
>  > >> ones.
>  > >>> 
>  > >>> Thanks,
>  > >>> 
>  > >>> John
>  > >>> 
>  > >> 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
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>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
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