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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT- NAMM 2011

2011-01-24 by tronbros

The M4000 has benn the M4000 for 4 years at least.  Markus is just being a confrontational twat.

M

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On 24 Jan 2011, at 14:09, "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I agree about the name...is there any documentation proving who named their instrument first? Not taking sides....just asking.
> What would YOU have named Markus' unit? I'd probably say something like MK8 (since it was next from the MK7) or M8000.
> And yes...I want one.....wish now I had ordered one before the price jump:(
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@... wrote:
> >
> > It's a machine. It exists. It's poorly named. It does what it is supposed 
> > to. Knowing Markus, it's probably well made. It's poorly named. It will 
> > sell.
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 1/23/2011 6:00:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > MAinPsych@... writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > BTW, none of my remarks should construed as defending Markus or demeaning 
> > Streetly. I'm just commenting on what I have actually heard with my own 
> > ears firsthand. Markus is a big boy and can defend himself, if needed.
> > 
> > Frank 1
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 01/23/11 14:53:51 Pacific Standard Time, mainpsych 
> > writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 01/23/11 08:14:35 Pacific Standard Time, lsf5275 writes:
> > 
> > Clay,
> > 
> > How would Markus sample all of those Chamberlin sounds. It is my 
> > understanding that swapping tapes in any Chamberlin would be a pain in the ass. Even 
> > if you were to sample the sounds from an old Music Master, the tapes would 
> > likely be old and worn. Mattias has one now. so maybe he can tell us how 
> > his tapes are. But even if they're great, they're not all of the sounds. So 
> > if he wants to use the Chamberlin Masters, he would have to play them in a 
> > Mark VI or a 400. Doing that alters the dynamics of the intended sound. But 
> > then again, Markus makes no claim that I have seen, read or heard as to 
> > how the tapes were sampled. Maybe the Chamberlin sounds were all sampled from 
> > a Mellotron. Then they wouldn't be authentic, but who's gonna know?
> > 
> > 
> > We really need to move from the philosophical/speculative realm to the 
> > real world, i.e., sonority (what sounds good). 50 people, 50 opinions, no 
> > consensus, no progress. After all, strict music theory would dictate that the 
> > dissonance of playing a B and a C together is a major no-no (or parallel 
> > fifths), but listening to Wakeman's brass intro to "Siberian Khatru" says 
> > it's perfect for that musical phrase, both starting and ending on such an 
> > interval. I don't know Markus' sound source, but I can tell you firsthand 
> > that, say, the Mellotron Cello and Chamberlin Cello can be played together or 
> > solo on an M400D and you can move back and forth between the two by the 
> > twist of a knob for an instant A/B comparison. While both are good, 
> > objectively, the Chamby Cello is much more authentic sounding. The point being 
> > that Markus could not have achieved that other than sampling a source oth er 
> > than direct from tape.
> > 
> > 
> > My only real disappointment about Markus' machine is the name. I can 
> > certainly see its appeal and its purpose. I'm not sure I am aware of his 
> > marketing strategy, if any, but there certainly is interest. I am surprised that 
> > he isn't more involved with the Mellotron community.
> > 
> > 
> > I had intended to ask Markus about this very issue; unfortunately, he was 
> > not present at NAMM this year.
> > 
> > Frank 1
> >
> 
>

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