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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: OT- NAMM 2011

2011-01-22 by Hessel Herder

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Op 22 jan. 2011 om 21:22 heeft "tron400" <tron400@yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:

> 
> 
> I have Harley Davidson eyeglass frames. They're really loud!
> 
> Bernie
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@... wrote:
> >
> > I hear Harley Davidson is going to make a bicycle with speakers on it that  
> > play back the sounds of the big V-Twin when you pedal it around. It will 
> > have the Harley Davidson Logo on it and since it still sounds just like the 
> > big bike it must be a motorcycle.
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 1/22/2011 1:44:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > hessel@... writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It seems to me that, for any device claiming to have authentic MELLOTRON 
> > sounds onboard, capturing the MELLOTRON medium (tape! ) and capturing the 
> > characteristic replay mechanism is very important and indeed what many  
> > buyers would expect to hear from this device
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Op 22 jan. 2011 om 18:18 heeft "Charles" <_charel196@..._ 
> > (mailto:charel196@...) > het volgende geschreven:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > not a valid comparison...a guitar relies on the wood and strings for 
> > sound. The Mellotron doesn't rely on it's cabinet. Does the plexiglass tron  
> > sound different from the wooden ones?
> > The M4000D is a DIGITAL MELLOTRON....not a tape playback Mellotron...but 
> > is entitled to the name nonetheless IMO since it is an offspring of the line 
> > of instruments. As far as tuning & denoising etc. ruining or changing the 
> > sound....aren't these the very things people have bitched about for 
> > decades. Now someone fixes them and you bitch about that! (shakes head....walking 
> > away....smiling)
> > Markus could offer non tuned/non-denoised versions of the sounds as an 
> > option.And if you can detect the missing bits of analog tape sound in the 
> > digital version you must have super hearing.
> > Yeah...the Classic Keys sounds aren't good. The E4K/Pinder CD sounds as 
> > accurate as I need. I even have samples from my old 400 in it (hissy & out of 
> > tune) every note sampled full length, non looped.
> > 
> > --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
> > (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , lsf5275@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Charles,
> > > 
> > > Suppose you make a wooden thing with a neck and buttons on it instead of 
> > > strings. All of the sounds are digitized and you press buttons to get 
> > the 
> > > sounds. Is it a Guitar? It looks like a guitar, but is it a guitar? No. 
> > A 
> > > Mellotron or Chamberlin were TAPE playback machines. Just because you 
> > make 
> > > something that kinda looks like one and plays digital representations of 
> > the 
> > > original tape samples doesn't make them one.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 1/22/2011 8:48:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > > charel196@ writes:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I just don't get all this "it's not a Mellotron" talk....the digital 
> > unit 
> > > is a logical progression from tape replay and Ill bet Harry Chamberlin 
> > would 
> > > have moved into this area if he were alive now. The whole point was 
> > > playing instrument sounds on a keyboard, not the tape technology (which 
> > was the 
> > > only method available) 
> > > If all sounds are from original tapes and only last 8 seconds and are 
> > the 
> > > best digital representations that can be done, personally to me it's a 
> > new 
> > > Mellotron.It's the offspring of the tape machine. So what that it 
> > doesn't 
> > > use Chamberlin heads etc. With EQ'ing and processing I imagine you can 
> > get 
> > > near 1000% close.
> > > Heck I have used samples on my albums (from my EMU E4K, EMAX 1, and 
> > > CLASSIC KEYS) sometimes on the same songs I used my real M400 (when I 
> > had it) and 
> > > I defy anyone to tell me which is which. And the E4K was using the 
> > Pinder 
> > > CD. The M4000D samples are said to be way beyond the Pinder CD in 
> > quality. 
> > > I think it's totally anal to hang on to tape playback technology as the 
> > > only thing that can be called "Mellotron" or "Chamberlin". The 4000D is 
> > just a 
> > > new and different model in the family tree....made by the people who own 
> > > the name and masters.
> > >
> >
> 
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