The Mellotron Group

I know.


Den 2011-01-22 20.43, skrev "Hessel Herder" <hessel@soundscape.nl>:

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> I'm talking about the instrument, and it's characteristics
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> Op 22 jan. 2011 om 20:09 heeft mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se> het
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>> I record my Mellotron digitally and it sounds pretty accurate.
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>> // Mattias
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>> Den 2011-01-22 19.45, skrev "Hessel Herder" <hessel@soundscape.nl>:
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>>> It seems to me that, for any device claiming to have authentic MELLOTRON
>>> sounds onboard, capturing the MELLOTRON medium (tape! ) and capturing the
>>> characteristic replay mechanism is very important and indeed  what many
>>> buyers would expect to hear from this device
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>>> Op 22 jan. 2011 om 18:18 heeft "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> het volgende
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>>>> not a valid comparison...a guitar relies on the wood and strings for sound.
>>>> The Mellotron doesn't rely on it's cabinet. Does the plexiglass tron sound
>>>> different from the wooden ones?
>>>>  The M4000D is a DIGITAL MELLOTRON....not a tape playback Mellotron...but
>>>> is entitled to the name nonetheless IMO since it is an offspring of the
>>>> line of instruments. As far as tuning & denoising etc. ruining or changing
>>>> the sound....aren't these the very things people have bitched about for
>>>> decades. Now someone fixes them and you bitch about that! (shakes
>>>> head....walking away....smiling)
>>>>  Markus could offer non tuned/non-denoised versions of the sounds as an
>>>> option.And if you can detect the missing bits of analog tape sound in the
>>>> digital version you must have super hearing.
>>>> Yeah...the Classic Keys sounds aren't good. The E4K/Pinder CD sounds as
>>>> accurate as I need. I even have samples from my old 400 in it (hissy & out
>>>> of tune) every note sampled full length, non looped.
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>>>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
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>>>> <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>  , lsf5275@... wrote:
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>>>>> > Suppose you make a wooden thing with a neck and buttons on it instead of
>>>>> > strings. All of the sounds are digitized and you press buttons to get
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>>>>> > sounds. Is it a Guitar? It looks like a guitar, but is it a guitar? No.
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>>>>> > Mellotron or Chamberlin were TAPE playback machines. Just because you
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>>>>> > something that kinda looks like one and plays digital representations of
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>>>>> > original tape samples doesn't make them one.
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>>>>> > In a message dated 1/22/2011 8:48:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> > charel196@... writes:
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>>>>> > I just don't get all this "it's not a Mellotron" talk....the digital
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>>>>> > is a logical progression from tape replay and Ill bet Harry Chamberlin
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>>>>> >  have moved into this area if he were alive now. The whole point was
>>>>> > playing  instrument sounds on a keyboard, not the tape technology (which
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>>>>> > only  method available)
>>>>> > If all sounds are from original tapes and only last 8  seconds and are
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>>>>> > best digital representations that can be done, personally  to me it's a
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>>>>> > Mellotron.It's the offspring of the tape machine. So what  that it
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>>>>> > use Chamberlin heads etc. With EQ'ing and processing I imagine  you can
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>>>>> > near 1000% close.
>>>>> > Heck I have used samples on my albums (from  my EMU E4K, EMAX 1, and
>>>>> > CLASSIC KEYS) sometimes on the same songs I used my  real M400 (when I
>>>>> had it) and 
>>>>> > I defy anyone to tell me which is which. And the  E4K was using the
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>>>>> > CD. The M4000D samples are said to be way beyond the  Pinder CD in
>>>>> quality. 
>>>>> > I think it's totally anal to hang on to tape playback  technology as the
>>>>> > only thing that can be called "Mellotron" or "Chamberlin".  The 4000D is
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>>>>> > new and different model in the family tree....made by the  people who
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>>>>> > the name and masters.
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