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I am wondering if anyone knows how to create this common trick. There 
seems to be a common technique of fast 16th notes but they alternate in 
tone. For example in the chorus of Underworlds "Pushups" when it sounds 
like he is saying "Push it" DadaDadaDada. It sounds a bit like a two 
handed clav sound. Possibly played so that alternating notes are on 
different patches? TIA.

>I am wondering if anyone knows how to create this common trick. There
>seems to be a common technique of fast 16th notes but they alternate in
>tone. For example in the chorus of Underworlds "Pushups" when it sounds
>like he is saying "Push it" DadaDadaDada. It sounds a bit like a two
>handed clav sound. Possibly played so that alternating notes are on
>different patches? TIA.

If I am listening to the right bit, I think on that track the pattern is
actually programmed (and repeated) and  it's actually DadaDadaDa--.
and sometimes  --daDadaDa--.
Another more 'automated' way to do it would be to use a single 16th
delay with  no feedback, on an 8th note beat pattern. Mix  delay level
and freq response to suit...but it then would be DadaDadaDada. always.

all dada'd out now...

S

>I am wondering if anyone knows how to create this common trick. There
>seems to be a common technique of fast 16th notes but they alternate in
>tone. For example in the chorus of Underworlds "Pushups" when it sounds
>like he is saying "Push it" DadaDadaDada. It sounds a bit like a two
>handed clav sound. Possibly played so that alternating notes are on
>different patches? TIA.

BTW: The sound is probably a rich saw synth programmed for amp and possibly
filter cutoff to react to (probably) velocity.

Actually the song is Push Upstairs. Its not as clear on the live album 
but on the studio album it forms the distinctive riff of the song. BUt 
I've heard it on other techno CD's too. 

I don't think its an echo. There is a pickup note or two before the down 
beat.
    da da Da da Da da Da

It might be done with using the same note and patch but varrying the 
velocity 120-40-120-40.... I'll have to experiment.

Any other ideas?

>If I am listening to the right bit, I think on that track the pattern is
>actually programmed (and repeated) and  it's actually DadaDadaDa--.
>and sometimes  --daDadaDa--.
>Another more 'automated' way to do it would be to use a single 16th
>delay with  no feedback, on an 8th note beat pattern. Mix  delay level
>and freq response to suit...but it then would be DadaDadaDada. always.

Hmmm, there is a similar pattern on the Korg MS-2000 its an 8 step pattern
cycling at 1/32 note.