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> --- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, "Oblivian | Bacteria AS" wrote:
>> ...
>> Anyway you put it, it is never posititive that an OS vendor
>> also makes software. That goes for M$ too of course.

On Friday, July 18, 2003 3:47 AM, <Eric Baird> wrote:
> Oh yes, MS are the stock example!
> MSWord development seemed to be ****ed up for years as it drifted
> around in the wash of Microsoft's shifting corporate visions.
> And I thought Visual Basic had had the chance to completely turn the
> software development market upside down, if its development team had
> been allowed to go ahead and turn it into the complete killer cross-
> platform development tool it could have been ... but they only seemed
> to support MS operating systems (no Mac version), and didn't
> initially include a compiler (conflict with VC++), and then got
> bogged down as VB got used as a pawn in MS strategy after strategy.

Sorry, I don't agree with you. Even though an OS vendor develops other
software doesn't mean that the software they develop is inferior to the
competition. M$ is a prime example of that. I can think of no other software
that substitutes MS Office. Yes, there are alternatives, but they aren't
"better". Before MS Word it was Word Perfect for DOS... IE vs Netscape? We
all know Netscape sucked. It isn't even around anymore since AOL simply
dropped further development. Same with Premiere vs Final Cut. Final Cut is
commonly regarded the better choice. The problem is that it is developed by
Apple, and Apple is an OS vendor. I think Adobe had challenged any other
developer, but since it's Apple they just don't bother. What puzzles me and
what should disturb you is that if there's any company that has made Apple
what it is today, it's Adobe. And when Adobe starts looking elsewhere it is
not a good sign I'm afraid. And it's Apple's own fault. What if Steinberg
feels the same way after the aquisition of Emagic. Maybe in a year or two
we're stuck with Logic on Mac. Terrible... Opera is "thinking loud" about
discontinuing development for Mac, M$ has stopped further development for IE
on Mac. Windows Media Player 9.0 wont ever be released for Mac, and that is
a BIG problem since WMA and WMV is regarded the second largest format after
MP3 and MPEG, followed by Real and QT. They wont even release the codec.
What Apple doesn't seem to understand is that Mac is a niche computer and
Apple isn't M$. M$ is one of the largest and most influential companies in
the world. They can pull of things like that and get away with it. Apple
can't, they're to small. They just don't seem to get it, I'm afraid...

My initial post stands. Apple shouldn't develop Final Cut, Final Cut Pro,
Safari, Logic or any other "auxillery" software. Neither should M$, but
since they are so much bigger than little Apple, they are more likely to get
away with it.

Anyway, I find it strange that some of you tend to compare Apple and M$. It
is two completely different companies and different rules apply to them.
Apple wont ever be prosecuted under anti-Trust laws/violations because they
wont ever be in a position to do so. M$ is because they have a
world-monopoly. That doesn't mean that M$ is worse than Apple businesswise
since M$ has been accused and Apple not. And it certainly doesn't mean that
they are better either. Had Apple been as big as M$, I am certain they have
had exactly the same "problems".