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2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

2017-04-02 by bperkins211@...

Saw the post about 2.65k fw.

"I also modified CC control 86 (Poly Key Assign set) so that it uses absolute data values (0-4) corresponding with modes Poly, Hold, Chord, Portamento Mono and Portamento Unison."

Has the Poly Key Assign Mode been moved from Parameter Extended 88 to 86?
Also, it's been changed from the standard Rx midi values of 0-127 to 0-4??

If so, I need to change the GUI to match. The version I was about to release will not work on the previous versions of FW anymore for the Poly Key Assign Mode parameter.

The GUI is completely set up to Rx the Patch Dump actual parameter values, converts those values to 0-127 for all knob/slider controls.. those controls are all set up to Tx to the HAWK 0-127 values.
I don't think I could find time to go in and change all the scripts and all the knob controls if it all changes to actual values.. it would take so much time I would probably get frustrated and give up on the project.

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

2017-04-03 by Michael Hawkins

No, extended parameter P2 88 is the same. What has changed is MIDI controller 86d (56H) which was for MIDI CC control of key assign mode.

The MIDI CC 86 has changed to use 0-4 values instead of a ranged 0-127. Look at the MIDI implementation chart for details.

So you're precious code is OK.

I've been doing the HAWK project for nine years. So don't give up on your project in under nine months. You have a long way to go yet. :-)

/Mike

From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 6:59 PM
Subject: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

Saw the post about 2.65k fw.

"I also modified CC control 86 (Poly Key Assign set) so that it uses absolute data values (0-4) corresponding with modes Poly, Hold, Chord, Portamento Mono and Portamento Unison."

Has the Poly Key Assign Mode been moved from Parameter Extended 88 to 86?
Also, it's been changed from the standard Rx midi values of 0-127 to 0-4??

If so, I need to change the GUI to match. The version I was about to release will not work on the previous versions of FW anymore for the Poly Key Assign Mode parameter.

The GUI is completely set up to Rx the Patch Dump actual parameter values, converts those values to 0-127 for all knob/slider controls.. those controls are all set up to Tx to the HAWK 0-127 values.
I don't think I could find time to go in and change all the scripts and all the knob controls if it all changes to actual values.. it would take so much time I would probably get frustrated and give up on the project.

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

2017-04-03 by Michael Hawkins

Actually, P2 88 is not the same. It now goes from 1-5 (in actual data it's 0-4). Which means it just has one extra value.

I understand you might be frustrated by changes like that but they do happen when new features are added. So I guess it really comes to whether you want to put the time and effort into maintaining your efforts. If you think that your code is going to stand still, that's OK. I can package your code into the ZIP files at the version at which it was current and valid. And if you update it later, I can add it in again.

But there is almost no chance that the HAWK code is going to stand still. Because there are just so many new features that people ask for and that really are nice to add. Why, even you asked for one (patch copy) and I added it!

:-)

/Mike

From: "Michael Hawkins korgpolyex800@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

No, extended parameter P2 88 is the same. What has changed is MIDI controller 86d (56H) which was for MIDI CC control of key assign mode.

The MIDI CC 86 has changed to use 0-4 values instead of a ranged 0-127. Look at the MIDI implementation chart for details.

So you're precious code is OK.

I've been doing the HAWK project for nine years. So don't give up on your project in under nine months. You have a long way to go yet. :-)

/Mike

From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 6:59 PM
Subject: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

Saw the post about 2.65k fw.

"I also modified CC control 86 (Poly Key Assign set) so that it uses absolute data values (0-4) corresponding with modes Poly, Hold, Chord, Portamento Mono and Portamento Unison."

Has the Poly Key Assign Mode been moved from Parameter Extended 88 to 86?
Also, it's been changed from the standard Rx midi values of 0-127 to 0-4??

If so, I need to change the GUI to match. The version I was about to release will not work on the previous versions of FW anymore for the Poly Key Assign Mode parameter.

The GUI is completely set up to Rx the Patch Dump actual parameter values, converts those values to 0-127 for all knob/slider controls.. those controls are all set up to Tx to the HAWK 0-127 values.
I don't think I could find time to go in and change all the scripts and all the knob controls if it all changes to actual values.. it would take so much time I would probably get frustrated and give up on the project.

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

2017-04-03 by bperkins211@...

So P2 88 Rx values will still be 0-127? Then HAWK will convert them to 1-5? And HAWK will Tx the value in a patch dump as 0-4?

Apologies if I sounded alarmed.. Sunday was a bad migraine day for me. I tried to get the GUI wrapped up and posted for download and then things began to go very wrong.
I tried to first adjust something that probably didn't need changed, then the button for Patch Write wouldn't save.. then I saw the HAWK was reading a EG3 value every time I changed patches....

It became so frustrating, and physically painful on my skull that I had to stop and walk away from it.

I will take another shot at it later in the week with a clear head. I tried too hard too quickly to get it all to work.

/Blaine

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

2017-04-03 by Michael Hawkins

Yes, you can still send 0-127 and the MIDI CC code will convert them to 1-5 (stored in the patch as data values 0-4). They are displayed as 1-5. The data in sysex and in memory is 0-4.

Rest easy, when you get to 2,000 hours plus, then you can start to complain. :-)

/mike

From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65k Poly Key Assign Mode Values..

So P2 88 Rx values will still be 0-127? Then HAWK will convert them to 1-5? And HAWK will Tx the value in a patch dump as 0-4?

Apologies if I sounded alarmed.. Sunday was a bad migraine day for me. I tried to get the GUI wrapped up and posted for download and then things began to go very wrong.
I tried to first adjust something that probably didn't need changed, then the button for Patch Write wouldn't save.. then I saw the HAWK was reading a EG3 value every time I changed patches....

It became so frustrating, and physically painful on my skull that I had to stop and walk away from it.

I will take another shot at it later in the week with a clear head. I tried too hard too quickly to get it all to work.

/Blaine