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New Hawk800 GUI Preview

New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-03-29 by bperkins211@...

Just about done with a updated GUI I have been working on for the past couple years...

Here's a teaser vid..

https://youtu.be/YwHCMFJ3c2k?list=PLOjbFVchrTEyyZPgxdIjD61kllkMTIgWH


Getting real close to releasing it.

This will be available in standalone executable, VST dll, raw Ctrlr panel file and thus should be available for Mac users to download Ctrlr and open the GUI in a Mac OS.

More vids to come later with mini tutorials on how to use the GUI and tricks/tips to get the most out of your Hawk800.


/Blaine


Re: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-03-29 by Michael Hawkins

Nice video! That is very cool work you have there!

Now I know this is going to sound arcane but will the executable work on a Win XP (32) machine?

Also, just now I released another s/w version - 2.65j - which includes a sysex "write" function that just writes the running patch to the current selected patch. The more sophisticated one that copies from one place to another will come later.

; Save running patch to current selected patch
; F0 42 21 12 F7
; Copies running patch into current selected patch
; If patch write switch is disabled then no action is taken.
; Acknowledges a successful copy with the msg F0 42 21 7E 12 01 F7
; Acknowledges no copy with the msg F0 42 21 7E 12 00 F7

Enjoy!

I think it's time you and I had a chat about your teensy work.

/Mike

From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:42 PM
Subject: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

 
Just about done with a updated GUI I have been working on for the past couple years...

Here's a teaser vid..

https://youtu.be/YwHCMFJ3c2k?list=PLOjbFVchrTEyyZPgxdIjD61kllkMTIgWH


Getting real close to releasing it.

This will be available in standalone executable, VST dll, raw Ctrlr panel file and thus should be available for Mac users to download Ctrlr and open the GUI in a Mac OS.

More vids to come later with mini tutorials on how to use the GUI and tricks/tips to get the most out of your Hawk800.


/Blaine



s/w version 2.65j - improves portamento

2017-03-29 by Michael Hawkins

Portamento mode went awry in the last couple of releases because I tried to add variable slide rate without properly testing.

Version 2.65j improves the behavior significantly so that the slide rate across the keyboard is variable to get the time from note to note to be relatively the same regardless of distance between notes. The timing is not yet perfect but I wanted to let everyone know that 2.65j is definitely worth a look if you want improved portamento mono mode.

At this point, the note on/off behavior is as good as it's going to get with no note (FIFO) buffering.

I would appreciate feedback from those of you that used portamento mono mode. Because working on it is very time consuming so if it works well enough in this version then I am inclined to leave it alone for now. If there is some glaring problem, please do let me know about it.

/Mike

Re: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-03-29 by bperkins211@...

Thanks,

The standalone and VST can both run under XP 32bit systems as well as W7-10.
It's a fairly simple program.

The write to current patch will be plenty good enough to me right now.
The feature to select from/to patch locations would require a bit more work and can be added in a later release.


I'll have to give the latest portamento a try.  The last version seemed to work OK.
Getting a LIFO monophonic mode would be nice later on if it can happen...  You would not believe how long it took me to figure out how to make it work on the Teensy!


Give me a shout at my Gmail email about the Teensy synth.
I have a little more time to work on it before warm weather will begin to cut into my tinker time..
My warm weather activities tend to take up much of my time..  Housework, garden and yard work, vacation travel and of course my regular job too.
Late fall to early spring is when I have time to give large amounts of focus to tech projects 

/Blaine

Re: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-03-29 by Michael Hawkins

Well, I am looking forward to seeing it released!

/Mike


From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

 
Thanks,

The standalone and VST can both run under XP 32bit systems as well as W7-10.
It's a fairly simple program.

The write to current patch will be plenty good enough to me right now.
The feature to select from/to patch locations would require a bit more work and can be added in a later release.


I'll have to give the latest portamento a try.  The last version seemed to work OK.
Getting a LIFO monophonic mode would be nice later on if it can happen...  You would not believe how long it took me to figure out how to make it work on the Teensy!


Give me a shout at my Gmail email about the Teensy synth.
I have a little more time to work on it before warm weather will begin to cut into my tinker time..
My warm weather activities tend to take up much of my time..  Housework, garden and yard work, vacation travel and of course my regular job too.
Late fall to early spring is when I have time to give large amounts of focus to tech projects 

/Blaine


All Notes Off CC?

2017-03-30 by bperkins211@...

I got the WRITE Patch button to work.  Very cool!

I tried to get the CC 123 Notes Off to work.  It wont work with values 0 or 127.

Either I am not sending the right value or it was not added to v2.65j.

LMK....

I am going to test this on a XP/32bit machine tonight.

/Blaine

Re: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-03-30 by domgoold@...

that looks great ;-)

i have now mastered show hide of objects with lua methods,
if that's of any use (with my D-110 panel still in progress)

still trying to figure out how to get it to start up with default
parameter settings - without sending out a whole patch -
and then have to work out how to retrieve a patch and
update onscreen controls.

basically, the panel file should load into any version of Ctrlr, and
then you export the instance, as a standalone exe, or as a plugin,
so it should be possible to have it for Win/Mac/Linux as 32 or 64 bit.

what i'm slightly worried about now is whether Mike still has all old
firmwares for all board revisions !!! (?) and if you would recognise a
board version from photos ? yes, i 'm going to do the upgrade installation,
i've retrieved my box with ex800 and kits in it, at last.

also: is this sysex or nrpn?

Re: All Notes Off CC?

2017-03-30 by domgoold@...

are you able to retrieve a patch and update screen controls?
i think it is an standard 'onboard' function in Ctrlr..haven't dabbled
with it yet, but other panels seem to have it.

(lol, just went mad this week, and hacked out my 1-part D-110
edit, to cover all 8 parts, plus rhythm part, which runs to a coupla
thou' parameters+...mm will take a little while to enter all the sysex
there, that can wait for a very rainy day..)

lil' tip i figured out,.. entering and editing the sysex is most easy in
the modulator list, as is renaming a bunch of newly-copied modulators:
just toggle vst index list a couple of times to get your most recent
entries at the top, and rename/deal with it right away, including deleting
old group or tab ownership attributes which will screw things up on next
load.(have to be careful not to delete these on wrong parameters though,
or everything gets messed up)

i'm hopeless at coding but i can just about manage basic luas now
( he he he ... :o)  too chuffed for what it really is.)

Re: All Notes Off CC?

2017-03-30 by domgoold@...

a question, about sysex vs nrpn

can the same parameter numbers be used irrespective of whether you
are using sysex or nrpn ? if the device responds to both.

or are they completely separate? or is it device-dependent ?
how about the Hawk? originally Mike was using NRPNs, and
then we got the sysex implementation recently.

re: NRPNs, i saw a report the other day where a panel using NRPNs
was having problems with sending multiple control messages (to a
esq1, it's the esq1 panel - worth checking out, to see how nrpns are
done) - he was crashing his esq1, and it seemed like the messages
were getting mixed up, with data#6 remaining associated with the
previous CC 98/99 message - which is where i remember reading
stuff about 'NRPN Null' messages, to have at the end of each NRPN
series/message. and i also see that the Novation Remote SL can deal
with NRPNs 'automatically', and wonder if it wraps its messages with
a NRPN Null at the end ( - if you see why i'm mentioning this...)

Re: [korgpolyex] All Notes Off CC?

2017-03-30 by Michael Hawkins

I have not added the CC123 yet. There's only so much I can do at one time.

I have posted the RFE on sourceforge, so I won't forget it. Could take a month or so.

/Mike


From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:19 PM
Subject: [korgpolyex] All Notes Off CC?

 
I got the WRITE Patch button to work.  Very cool!

I tried to get the CC 123 Notes Off to work.  It wont work with values 0 or 127.

Either I am not sending the right value or it was not added to v2.65j.

LMK....

I am going to test this on a XP/32bit machine tonight.

/Blaine


Re: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-03-30 by Michael Hawkins

"what i'm slightly worried about now is whether Mike still has all old
firmwares for all board revisions !!! (?)"

The current firmware is valid for ALL board revisions. And I intend to keep it that way for the entire life of the HAWK project.

/Mike


From: "domgoold@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Hawk800 GUI Preview

 
that looks great ;-)

i have now mastered show hide of objects with lua methods,
if that's of any use (with my D-110 panel still in progress)

still trying to figure out how to get it to start up with default
parameter settings - without sending out a whole patch -
and then have to work out how to retrieve a patch and
update onscreen controls.

basically, the panel file should load into any version of Ctrlr, and
then you export the instance, as a standalone exe, or as a plugin,
so it should be possible to have it for Win/Mac/Linux as 32 or 64 bit.

what i'm slightly worried about now is whether Mike still has all old
firmwares for all board revisions !!! (?) and if you would recognise a
board version from photos ? yes, i 'm going to do the upgrade installation,
i've retrieved my box with ex800 and kits in it, at last.

also: is this sysex or nrpn?


Re: [korgpolyex] Re: All Notes Off CC?

2017-03-30 by Michael Hawkins

The HAWK has fully independent functions. So it doesn't matter which MIDI CC or SYX message you send for patch parameter changes, they will all work even if you mix those messages in between each other.

For example, if you send a NRPN MSB then send the syx patch parameter change followed by the NRPN LSB and NRPN DAT then the syx patch change happens first followed by the NRPN change. They don't mess each other up at all. So NRPN 'null' is not needed for HAWK.

/Mike


From: "domgoold@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:51 AM
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: All Notes Off CC?

 
a question, about sysex vs nrpn

can the same parameter numbers be used irrespective of whether you
are using sysex or nrpn ? if the device responds to both.

or are they completely separate? or is it device-dependent ?
how about the Hawk? originally Mike was using NRPNs, and
then we got the sysex implementation recently.

re: NRPNs, i saw a report the other day where a panel using NRPNs
was having problems with sending multiple control messages (to a
esq1, it's the esq1 panel - worth checking out, to see how nrpns are
done) - he was crashing his esq1, and it seemed like the messages
were getting mixed up, with data#6 remaining associated with the
previous CC 98/99 message - which is where i remember reading
stuff about 'NRPN Null' messages, to have at the end of each NRPN
series/message. and i also see that the Novation Remote SL can deal
with NRPNs 'automatically', and wonder if it wraps its messages with
a NRPN Null at the end ( - if you see why i'm mentioning this...)


Re: New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-05-01 by lorensteele@...

Blaine thanks so much for the awesome editor!  can you post a dl link to the ctrlr page you made for the hawk800?  i can run the standalone on a win7 i5 laptop, i can't run the standalone on a win xp acer aspireone netbook (but ctrlr will run)  thanks again!  Loren

Re: New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2017-05-03 by bperkins211@...

Hi Loren,
Most likely you found a older version of the GUI.

It most likely is a 64 bit only version.
I am just about done catching up to the latest features and other loose ends.

I will have a new download link soon... Watch this space.
And it should be 32bit so it will run on all Win xx

There will also be a standalone, a .DLL for VST use and the .bpanelz file so someone with a Mac can load it on their machine.

Stay tuned!  This newer version will be very complete with tons of features.

/Blaine

Re: New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2018-02-04 by 4nm6kadee7zdzsxm65oyvgpeyokmlg7czf2bnuoi@...

Hey!

Just wanted to say "Hi" and ask if you're still working on this?

Would be amazing
D

Re: New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2018-02-04 by bperkins211@...

I just posted a reply to your post on YouTube..

Actually I have been looking this over again recently while I had a little time to do so.
Unfortunately there appears to be problems with the VST instance.

I can upload what I have done so far, but I'm afraid the VST version may have issues..
I have managed to get Automated Control to work in FL Studio.. but again, it's been buggy..
Things like it will work, then not work.. the automated control setups when you change patches will go crazy and set all the knobs to "zero" for everything when you link the VST up to the FL Studio..

Hard to explain the issues.  But I think the Standalone Instance that is basically a simple window/app that is not inside a DAW will work find and help make it easier to program the HAWK.. it's just that damn VST problem that I can't seem to hash thru.

I also came on here to see if I can get help with an ongoing distortion problem with my HAWK..

/Blaine

Re: New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2018-02-22 by domgoold@...

Hi Blaine,
i'm an avid Ctrlr user at the moment. mainly making silly UI things,
trying to learn Lua, sort of getting the hang of it. - don't know if you
want to share the Ctrlr panel file ? i'm on 64-bit.

i think i've got my head round 2 way communication, but haven't
implemented it yet in my own project.

maybe try making a cut-down VST plugin, only a few parameters,
and see what happens. if your plugin is receiving some kind of
intialize or something from the DAW when it starts? if it works as
a standalone then you should be on the right track. is it using sysex
or midiCC/NRPN?
Dom

Re: New Hawk800 GUI Preview

2018-02-22 by bperkins211@...

Hi Dom,

I tried posting a somewhat finished version with download link last weekend but it never posted.  Then I tried a "test" post and it too wouldn't post.  I'm not sure if even this reply will post..  I'm beginning to wonder if I was somehow "banned" from posting...  Dunno what's going on.   Anyhow, try going to :     https://youtu.be/mQTHqcihyw8.  to see the latest vid I posted about the GUI, where to download it and how to use it.  /Blaine