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2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by bperkins211@...

What happened?

If I remember right, portamento mode use to work ok, as well as the monophonic keys in earlier versions than 2.65


did something change? I cant get the glide or keys to function anything useful in that mode at all anymore...



Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by Michael Hawkins

Use patch 11 from the original Poly/EX defaults.
Does it work then?
/Mike
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      From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@...m>
 To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:42 PM
 Subject: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
   
    What happened?

If I remember right, portamento mode use to work ok, as well as the monophonic keys in earlier versions than 2.65


did something change?  I cant get the glide or keys to function anything useful in that mode at all anymore...

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by Michael Hawkins

Blaine (and all HAWKers),
I just uploaded version 2.65h which I believe should fix the issue.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hawk800/files/Software/Version%202.65/

Let me know how it goes.
/Mike
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      From: "Michael Hawkins korgpolyex800@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
   
    Use patch 11 from the original Poly/EX defaults.
Does it work then?
/Mike

      From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
 To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:42 PM
 Subject: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
  
    What happened?

If I remember right, portamento mode use to work ok, as well as the monophonic keys in earlier versions than 2.65


did something change?  I cant get the glide or keys to function anything useful in that mode at all anymore...

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by bperkins211@...

Thanks Mike.
Seems to be working like it used to now after the reflash.
The glide rate seems a little slow though. I thought it use to have a wider range. Now it seems to go medium speed to very slow to crazy slow, a quick glide doesn't seem to happen.

It won't let you begin to glide one direction, then go back the other direction mid slide when you hit a different key?
Say start high, hit a low note and it begins to glide down.. Then hit a high note again and it stays playing but goes back up again.

I guess the mono mode never did let you play "trills".
Where you hold one note down, then hit another note while holding the first.
The new note takes over and plays, but if you let it go, it will restart the previous key still held down.
Let's you sound like a pro very easily.

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-21 by Michael Hawkins

There are still some kinks to work out with the portamento code.
One of the main problems with the old code was that if you released the first (lead) note before playing the next (destination note), there would not be any portamento slide at all. So I fixed that particular problem. Now, you should be able to do trills easier than before.
However, I also tried to redesign the code so that the slide time would be roughly the same no matter how distant the two keys. And it kind of works, there are some problems though. The main issue is written up in the release notes.
So, although I've managed to put in the time to improve the timing and the note on/off behavior, I am going to have to wait a week or more before I can spend the time to iron out the kinks. And if people would prefer the original set up as it was then perhaps I can just revert back.

/Mike
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      From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
 To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
   
    Thanks Mike.
Seems to be working like it used to now after the reflash.
The glide rate seems a little slow though.  I thought it use to have a wider range.  Now it seems to go medium speed to very slow to crazy slow, a quick glide doesn't seem to happen.

It won't let you begin to glide one direction, then go back the other direction mid slide when you hit a different key?
Say start high, hit a low note and it begins to glide down.. Then hit a high note again and it stays playing but goes back up again.

I guess the mono mode never did let you play "trills".
Where you hold one note down, then hit another note while holding the first.
The new note takes over and plays, but if you let it go, it will restart the previous key still held down.
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Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-21 by charles chop

what is the 2.65 if I can ask , I came following too late
a new version software revision for the ex?
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On Tue, 3/21/17, Michael Hawkins korgpolyex800@... [korgpolyex] <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
 Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
 To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
 Received: Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 9:47 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       There
 are still some kinks to work out with the portamento
 code.
 One
 of the main problems with the old code was that if you
 released the first (lead) note before playing the next
 (destination note), there would not be any portamento slide
 at all. So I fixed that particular problem. Now, you should
 be able to do trills easier than before.
 However,
 I also tried to redesign the code so that the slide time
 would be roughly the same no matter how distant the two
 keys. And it kind of works, there are some problems though.
 The main issue is written up in the release notes.
 So, although I've managed to put in
 the time to improve the timing and the note on/off behavior,
 I am going to have to wait a week or more before I can spend
 the time to iron out the kinks. And if people would prefer
 the original set up as it was then perhaps I can just revert
 back.
 
 /Mike
 
 
  
   
   From:
 "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]"
 <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
  To:
 korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 20,
 2017 9:12 PM
  Subject: Re:
 [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Thanks
 Mike.
 Seems to be working like it used to
 now after the reflash.
 The glide rate seems
 a little slow though.  I thought it use to have a wider
 range.  Now it seems to go medium speed to very slow to
 crazy slow, a quick glide doesn't seem to happen.
 
 It won't let you begin to
 glide one direction, then go back the other direction mid
 slide when you hit a different key?
 Say
 start high, hit a low note and it begins to glide down..
 Then hit a high note again and it stays playing but goes
 back up again.
 
 I guess the
 mono mode never did let you play "trills".
 Where you hold one note down, then hit another
 note while holding the first.
 The new  note
 takes over and plays, but if you let it go, it will restart
 the previous key still held down.
 Let's
 you sound like a pro very easily.
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 
  
   
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
 #yiv7060600268 #yiv7060600268 --

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-22 by bperkins211@...

Trust me.. I know ALL about those "kinks".

Last week I managed to figure out a Monophonic Mode and Portamento for my ongoing Seenthysizer project.. the Teensy 3.5 board/chip.

I made a video of the key action I was trying to explain where it "trills" a note back and forth.

https://youtu.be/WEmxM_Wb44o


I also just began to figure out how to get a Pitch LFO modulation to work.
I intend to make the Portamento mode even more interesting later on when I phase the timing for each of the seven voices... so they all begin to glide a few milliseconds apart to fatten up the sound.

/Blaine

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-22 by Michael Hawkins

Another nice portamento which you don't hear very often is the dual, inverted convergent slide.
Where you have 1+N voices start the slide X distance below and above and they all converge on the struck note and arriving at the same time. The math is incredibly difficult in 8 bit CPU's.

Other variations are great. If the 80C85 CPU wasn't completely maxed out these things are all possible in HAWK.
But at this point, it really makes much more sense to switch to a modern CPU.
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      From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
 To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
   
    Trust me.. I know ALL about those "kinks".

Last week I managed to figure out a Monophonic Mode and Portamento for my ongoing Seenthysizer project.. the Teensy 3.5 board/chip.

I made a video of the key action I was trying to explain where it "trills" a note back and forth.

https://youtu.be/WEmxM_Wb44o


I also just began to figure out how to get a Pitch LFO modulation to work.
I intend to make the Portamento mode even more interesting later on when I phase the timing for each of the seven voices...  so they all begin to glide a few milliseconds apart to fatten up the sound. 

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Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-22 by charles chop

thanks !   cool stuff 
anybody here good at the mc68000 ?


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On Wed, 3/22/17, bperkins211@... [korgpolyex] <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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 Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
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 Received: Wednesday, March 22, 2017, 5:28 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       It is the latest version of firmware for the Hawk
 board.
 A modification board/kit you install
 inside a Poly or EX 800.
 
     
      
 
     
     
 
 
 
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