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2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by bperkins211@...

What happened?

If I remember right, portamento mode use to work ok, as well as the monophonic keys in earlier versions than 2.65


did something change?  I cant get the glide or keys to function anything useful in that mode at all anymore...



Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by Michael Hawkins

Use patch 11 from the original Poly/EX defaults.

Does it work then?

/Mike


From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

 
What happened?

If I remember right, portamento mode use to work ok, as well as the monophonic keys in earlier versions than 2.65


did something change?  I cant get the glide or keys to function anything useful in that mode at all anymore...





Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by Michael Hawkins

Blaine (and all HAWKers),

I just uploaded version 2.65h which I believe should fix the issue.


Let me know how it goes.

/Mike


From: "Michael Hawkins korgpolyex800@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

 
Use patch 11 from the original Poly/EX defaults.

Does it work then?

/Mike


From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

 
What happened?

If I remember right, portamento mode use to work ok, as well as the monophonic keys in earlier versions than 2.65


did something change?  I cant get the glide or keys to function anything useful in that mode at all anymore...







Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-20 by bperkins211@...

Thanks Mike.
Seems to be working like it used to now after the reflash.
The glide rate seems a little slow though.  I thought it use to have a wider range.  Now it seems to go medium speed to very slow to crazy slow, a quick glide doesn't seem to happen.

It won't let you begin to glide one direction, then go back the other direction mid slide when you hit a different key?
Say start high, hit a low note and it begins to glide down.. Then hit a high note again and it stays playing but goes back up again.

I guess the mono mode never did let you play "trills".
Where you hold one note down, then hit another note while holding the first.
The new note takes over and plays, but if you let it go, it will restart the previous key still held down.
Let's you sound like a pro very easily.

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-21 by Michael Hawkins

There are still some kinks to work out with the portamento code.

One of the main problems with the old code was that if you released the first (lead) note before playing the next (destination note), there would not be any portamento slide at all. So I fixed that particular problem. Now, you should be able to do trills easier than before.

However, I also tried to redesign the code so that the slide time would be roughly the same no matter how distant the two keys. And it kind of works, there are some problems though. The main issue is written up in the release notes.

So, although I've managed to put in the time to improve the timing and the note on/off behavior, I am going to have to wait a week or more before I can spend the time to iron out the kinks. And if people would prefer the original set up as it was then perhaps I can just revert back.

/Mike


From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

 
Thanks Mike.
Seems to be working like it used to now after the reflash.
The glide rate seems a little slow though.  I thought it use to have a wider range.  Now it seems to go medium speed to very slow to crazy slow, a quick glide doesn't seem to happen.

It won't let you begin to glide one direction, then go back the other direction mid slide when you hit a different key?
Say start high, hit a low note and it begins to glide down.. Then hit a high note again and it stays playing but goes back up again.

I guess the mono mode never did let you play "trills".
Where you hold one note down, then hit another note while holding the first.
The new note takes over and plays, but if you let it go, it will restart the previous key still held down.
Let's you sound like a pro very easily.


Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-21 by charles chop

what is the 2.65 if I can ask , I came following too late
a new version software revision for the ex?
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 3/21/17, Michael Hawkins korgpolyex800@... [korgpolyex] <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 9:47 AM


 









There
are still some kinks to work out with the portamento
code.
One
of the main problems with the old code was that if you
released the first (lead) note before playing the next
(destination note), there would not be any portamento slide
at all. So I fixed that particular problem. Now, you should
be able to do trills easier than before.
However,
I also tried to redesign the code so that the slide time
would be roughly the same no matter how distant the two
keys. And it kind of works, there are some problems though.
The main issue is written up in the release notes.
So, although I've managed to put in
the time to improve the timing and the note on/off behavior,
I am going to have to wait a week or more before I can spend
the time to iron out the kinks. And if people would prefer
the original set up as it was then perhaps I can just revert
back.

/Mike




From:
"bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]"
<korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To:
korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 20,
2017 9:12 PM
Subject: Re:
[korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?



 









Thanks
Mike.
Seems to be working like it used to
now after the reflash.
The glide rate seems
a little slow though.  I thought it use to have a wider
range.  Now it seems to go medium speed to very slow to
crazy slow, a quick glide doesn't seem to happen.

It won't let you begin to
glide one direction, then go back the other direction mid
slide when you hit a different key?
Say
start high, hit a low note and it begins to glide down..
Then hit a high note again and it stays playing but goes
back up again.

I guess the
mono mode never did let you play "trills".
Where you hold one note down, then hit another
note while holding the first.
The new note
takes over and plays, but if you let it go, it will restart
the previous key still held down.
Let's
you sound like a pro very easily.





















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Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-22 by bperkins211@...

Trust me.. I know ALL about those "kinks".

Last week I managed to figure out a Monophonic Mode and Portamento for my ongoing Seenthysizer project.. the Teensy 3.5 board/chip.

I made a video of the key action I was trying to explain where it "trills" a note back and forth.

https://youtu.be/WEmxM_Wb44o


I also just began to figure out how to get a Pitch LFO modulation to work.
I intend to make the Portamento mode even more interesting later on when I phase the timing for each of the seven voices...  so they all begin to glide a few milliseconds apart to fatten up the sound.

/Blaine

Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-22 by Michael Hawkins

Another nice portamento which you don't hear very often is the dual, inverted convergent slide.

Where you have 1+N voices start the slide X distance below and above and they all converge on the struck note and arriving at the same time. The math is incredibly difficult in 8 bit CPU's.

Other variations are great. If the 80C85 CPU wasn't completely maxed out these things are all possible in HAWK.

But at this point, it really makes much more sense to switch to a modern CPU.

From: "bperkins211@... [korgpolyex]" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

 
Trust me.. I know ALL about those "kinks".

Last week I managed to figure out a Monophonic Mode and Portamento for my ongoing Seenthysizer project.. the Teensy 3.5 board/chip.

I made a video of the key action I was trying to explain where it "trills" a note back and forth.

https://youtu.be/WEmxM_Wb44o


I also just began to figure out how to get a Pitch LFO modulation to work.
I intend to make the Portamento mode even more interesting later on when I phase the timing for each of the seven voices...  so they all begin to glide a few milliseconds apart to fatten up the sound.

/Blaine


Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?

2017-03-22 by charles chop

thanks ! cool stuff
anybody here good at the mc68000 ?


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On Wed, 3/22/17, bperkins211@... [korgpolyex] <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] 2.65 Portamento/Mono mode?
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, March 22, 2017, 5:28 PM


 









It is the latest version of firmware for the Hawk
board.
A modification board/kit you install
inside a Poly or EX 800.









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