Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

hey there!!!!

i have an EX800 - like it very much, but there is one thing i don´t
quite understand...

why is there no editor-module for the EX800 or POLY800 in a
professional software like sóund-diver from emagic???

they have them all - you can even controll a memory-moog with sound-
diver... ????????BUT WHY NOT EX800 / POLY800??????????

the customer service can´t really help, they said i should be
patient - but i posted an email more than two years ago - same
topic - same answer - please be patient...

here the questionbs:

which functions of the EX800 are controlable via MIDI/sysex
is there maybe a "freeware-editor arround somewhere?

thanx, simon

Well, you shouldn't get all upset about it. The Polys and the EX
were made loooooonnnnnnnggg before editing hardware via a PC was
common, especially non-sampling units. Most apps these days for
hardware made in the '80s and early '90s are user-created apps
anyway. Unless, of course, you want to dig up an old Atari system
and use that.

I'm sure others here have more relevant answers, however I wonder,
aside from triggering notes via MIDI, and possibly a SYSEX dump to
save patches, why you need an editor for the EX in the first place?
It's such an easy unit; sounds to me like more trouble to implement
an editor for it than it is just to reach over and punch a few
buttons.



--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "the_emulatorii" <epiphone@y...>
wrote:

> hey there!!!!
>
> i have an EX800 - like it very much, but there is one thing i don´t
> quite understand...
>
> why is there no editor-module for the EX800 or POLY800 in a
> professional software like sóund-diver from emagic???
>
> they have them all - you can even controll a memory-moog with sound-
> diver... ????????BUT WHY NOT EX800 / POLY800??????????
>
> the customer service can´t really help, they said i should be
> patient - but i posted an email more than two years ago - same
> topic - same answer - please be patient...
>
> here the questionbs:
>
> which functions of the EX800 are controlable via MIDI/sysex
> is there maybe a "freeware-editor arround somewhere?
>
> thanx, simon

Even with the knob mod(freq/res) the editing is still tedious. IMHO, a screen of knobs would be infinently better,like the niffty juno 106 editor.

-----Original Message-----
From: toorglick [mailto:toorglick@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:15 AM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: EX-800 and sound-diver???

Well, you shouldn't get all upset about it. The Polys and the EX
were made loooooonnnnnnnggg before editing hardware via a PC was
common, especially non-sampling units. Most apps these days for
hardware made in the '80s and early '90s are user-created apps
anyway. Unless, of course, you want to dig up an old Atari system
and use that.

I'm sure others here have more relevant answers, however I wonder,
aside from triggering notes via MIDI, and possibly a SYSEX dump to
save patches, why you need an editor for the EX in the first place?
It's such an easy unit; sounds to me like more trouble to implement
an editor for it than it is just to reach over and punch a few
buttons.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "the_emulatorii" <epiphone@y...>
wrote:
> hey there!!!!
>
> i have an EX800 - like it very much, but there is one thing i don´t
> quite understand...
>
> why is there no editor-module for the EX800 or POLY800 in a
> professional software like sóund-diver from emagic???
>
> they have them all - you can even controll a memory-moog with sound-
> diver... ????????BUT WHY NOT EX800 / POLY800??????????
>
> the customer service can´t really help, they said i should be
> patient - but i posted an email more than two years ago - same
> topic - same answer - please be patient...
>
> here the questionbs:
>
> which functions of the EX800 are controlable via MIDI/sysex
> is there maybe a "freeware-editor arround somewhere?
>
> thanx, simon

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Ha Ha good luck. I've always wondered same. Midi Quest XL has it on
list. Wonder if sys dump only. Of course. But that's cool. At
least a librarian, not that either. But you're in same shape as me
in considering my controller: JX 10 Roland. For some reason IT HAS
NO MIDI EDITING VIA SOFTWARE! I don't use for sound anymore. If
there's a synth that has no editing features, I have it. I have to
figure out a way to easily dump sound file from my ex's "tape out"
mini pluggers to my sequencer for easy load and save.

SWARTZTNEGGER SAVES AMERICA!!!

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "the_emulatorii" <epiphone@y...>
wrote:

> hey there!!!!
>
> i have an EX800 - like it very much, but there is one thing i don´t
> quite understand...
>
> why is there no editor-module for the EX800 or POLY800 in a
> professional software like sóund-diver from emagic???
>
> they have them all - you can even controll a memory-moog with sound-
> diver... ????????BUT WHY NOT EX800 / POLY800??????????
>
> the customer service can´t really help, they said i should be
> patient - but i posted an email more than two years ago - same
> topic - same answer - please be patient...
>
> here the questionbs:
>
> which functions of the EX800 are controlable via MIDI/sysex
> is there maybe a "freeware-editor arround somewhere?
>
> thanx, simon

well thanx for the replies so far - first of all i will answer the
questions, which have occurred:

of course the EX800 is quite simple to program, but i find it
extremely annoying having to step through those menues all the time.
oi bought sound-diver just for the synths which are controlled by
these "multifunctional" menues, or don´t have an editor at all -
for example:

- DX7-II-fd
- TX802
- matrix 1000
- JX8P (i don´t have a controller)
- EX800

all of them are in my oppinion hard to deal with and this is why i
went out and bought the software. but now i find the software
annoying, because the synths are only supported partly...

i mean why the f... should i use a software-editor for a synth like
JD800 - it has all the sliders right on the board. they have an
editor for the JD800 - but not for synths, which would really need
an editor (like the Poly/EX800)

this really pisses me off - i have complained to emagic two years
ago and again now - they´re not interested and tell me i should
check the updates to see if i will have what i want some fine day...

brilliant - thanx for the conversation and congradulations to a good
customer-support. what use is a software of a big company like
emagic if it isn´t complete? i can understand, that they have
problems supporting all the NEW synths that come out, BUT we are
talking of VINTAGE synth - their number will not increase anymore!

i don´t understand this, two questions:

1: is there an software-editor (for true parameter-editing) out
there somewhere????

2: which parameters of the EX800 can be ajusted via MIDI/sysex?????

thank you all - best regards, simon





oh and by the way, the name is SCHWARZENEGGER and i am sad that
people, who were not born in USA can´t be elected to beeing
president.

because if it were possible - ARNOLD from old-europe would rule the
USA and that would hopefully change a lot of things to the better...

PEACE!

i mean why the f... should i use a software-editor for a synth like
JD800 - it has all the sliders right on the board. they have an
editor for the JD800 - but not for synths, which would really need
an editor (like the Poly/EX800)


So you can save and manage banks on your hard drive.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "the_emulatorii" <epiphone@y...>
wrote:

> well thanx for the replies so far - first of all i will answer the
> questions, which have occurred:
>
> of course the EX800 is quite simple to program, but i find it
> extremely annoying having to step through those menues all the

time.

> oi bought sound-diver just for the synths which are controlled by
> these "multifunctional" menues, or don´t have an editor at all -
> for example:
>
> - DX7-II-fd
> - TX802
> - matrix 1000
> - JX8P (i don´t have a controller)
> - EX800
>
> all of them are in my oppinion hard to deal with and this is why i
> went out and bought the software. but now i find the software
> annoying, because the synths are only supported partly...
>
> i mean why the f... should i use a software-editor for a synth like
> JD800 - it has all the sliders right on the board. they have an
> editor for the JD800 - but not for synths, which would really need
> an editor (like the Poly/EX800)
>
> this really pisses me off - i have complained to emagic two years
> ago and again now - they´re not interested and tell me i should
> check the updates to see if i will have what i want some fine day...
>
> brilliant - thanx for the conversation and congradulations to a

good

> customer-support. what use is a software of a big company like
> emagic if it isn´t complete? i can understand, that they have
> problems supporting all the NEW synths that come out, BUT we are
> talking of VINTAGE synth - their number will not increase anymore!
>
> i don´t understand this, two questions:
>
> 1: is there an software-editor (for true parameter-editing) out
> there somewhere????
>
> 2: which parameters of the EX800 can be ajusted via MIDI/sysex?????
>
> thank you all - best regards, simon
>
>
>
>
>
> oh and by the way, the name is SCHWARZENEGGER and i am sad that
> people, who were not born in USA can´t be elected to beeing
> president.
>
> because if it were possible - ARNOLD from old-europe would rule the
> USA and that would hopefully change a lot of things to the better...
>
> PEACE!

Well, the answer is simple. To my knowledge all Poly-800 (and the
EX-800) do not support any single parameter control via MIDI. So it
is not *possible* to do things like moving a slider on the PC and the
corresponding sound parameter changes.
Why? The Poly 800 (MK I) was the FIRST Korg synthesizer that had MIDI.
I dont think that they even thought about this in those days. They did
not even include such a basic command as MIDI Volume!

Johannes



korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> well thanx for the replies so far - first of all i will answer the
> questions, which have occurred:
>
> of course the EX800 is quite simple to program, but i find it
> extremely annoying having to step through those menues all the time.
> oi bought sound-diver just for the synths which are controlled by
> these "multifunctional" menues, or don´t have an editor at all -
> for example:
>
> - DX7-II-fd
> - TX802
> - matrix 1000
> - JX8P (i don´t have a controller)
> - EX800
>
> all of them are in my oppinion hard to deal with and this is why i
> went out and bought the software. but now i find the software
> annoying, because the synths are only supported partly...
>
> i mean why the f... should i use a software-editor for a synth like
> JD800 - it has all the sliders right on the board. they have an
> editor for the JD800 - but not for synths, which would really need
> an editor (like the Poly/EX800)
>
> this really pisses me off - i have complained to emagic two years
> ago and again now - they´re not interested and tell me i should
> check the updates to see if i will have what i want some fine day...
>
> brilliant - thanx for the conversation and congradulations to a good
> customer-support. what use is a software of a big company like
> emagic if it isn´t complete? i can understand, that they have
> problems supporting all the NEW synths that come out, BUT we are
> talking of VINTAGE synth - their number will not increase anymore!
>
> i don´t understand this, two questions:
>
> 1: is there an software-editor (for true parameter-editing) out
> there somewhere????
>
> 2: which parameters of the EX800 can be ajusted via MIDI/sysex?????
>
> thank you all - best regards, simon
>
>
>
>
>
> oh and by the way, the name is SCHWARZENEGGER and i am sad that
> people, who were not born in USA can´t be elected to beeing
> president.
>
> because if it were possible - ARNOLD from old-europe would rule the
> USA and that would hopefully change a lot of things to the better...
>
> PEACE!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Thanks god, its less things to do...But Aloha:EX 800 WITH midi
volume..thank you

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Johannes Hausensteiner
<jo.synth@c...> wrote:

> Well, the answer is simple. To my knowledge all Poly-800 (and the
> EX-800) do not support any single parameter control via MIDI. So it
> is not *possible* to do things like moving a slider on the PC and

the

> corresponding sound parameter changes.
> Why? The Poly 800 (MK I) was the FIRST Korg synthesizer that had

MIDI.

> I dont think that they even thought about this in those days. They

did

> not even include such a basic command as MIDI Volume!
>
> Johannes
>
>
>
> korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > well thanx for the replies so far - first of all i will answer

the

> > questions, which have occurred:
> >
> > of course the EX800 is quite simple to program, but i find it
> > extremely annoying having to step through those menues all the

time.

> > oi bought sound-diver just for the synths which are controlled by
> > these "multifunctional" menues, or don´t have an editor at all -
> > for example:
> >
> > - DX7-II-fd
> > - TX802
> > - matrix 1000
> > - JX8P (i don´t have a controller)
> > - EX800
> >
> > all of them are in my oppinion hard to deal with and this is why

i

> > went out and bought the software. but now i find the software
> > annoying, because the synths are only supported partly...
> >
> > i mean why the f... should i use a software-editor for a synth

like

> > JD800 - it has all the sliders right on the board. they have an
> > editor for the JD800 - but not for synths, which would really

need

> > an editor (like the Poly/EX800)
> >
> > this really pisses me off - i have complained to emagic two years
> > ago and again now - they´re not interested and tell me i should
> > check the updates to see if i will have what i want some fine

day...

> >
> > brilliant - thanx for the conversation and congradulations to a

good

> > customer-support. what use is a software of a big company like
> > emagic if it isn´t complete? i can understand, that they have
> > problems supporting all the NEW synths that come out, BUT we are
> > talking of VINTAGE synth - their number will not increase anymore!
> >
> > i don´t understand this, two questions:
> >
> > 1: is there an software-editor (for true parameter-editing) out
> > there somewhere????
> >
> > 2: which parameters of the EX800 can be ajusted via

MIDI/sysex?????

> >
> > thank you all - best regards, simon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > oh and by the way, the name is SCHWARZENEGGER and i am sad that
> > people, who were not born in USA can´t be elected to beeing
> > president.
> >
> > because if it were possible - ARNOLD from old-europe would rule

the

> > USA and that would hopefully change a lot of things to the

better...

> >
> > PEACE!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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