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Replacing up down buttons

RE: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-27 by tim p

Thanks - most interesting as I was wondering if I could do the same mod to my poly61

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From: cyllall
Sent: ‎27/‎03/‎2013 22:54
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

Hi all,
I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
Martin.
http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html

Re: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-27 by Martin Ator

I've just read a bit more on this. It also has a 3rd push function so it would do up/down and write as well.


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From: tim p <target9@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013, 22:57
Subject: RE: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

Thanks - most interesting as I was wondering if I could do the same mod to my poly61

Sent from my Windows Phone
From: cyllall
Sent: ‎27/‎03/‎2013 22:54
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

Hi all,
I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
Martin.
http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html



RE: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-27 by tim p

That would be pretty smart - push instead of using ENTER

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From: Martin Ator
Sent: ‎27/‎03/‎2013 23:03
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

I've just read a bit more on this. It also has a 3rd push function so it would do up/down and write as well.


From: tim p <target9@...>
To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013, 22:57
Subject: RE: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

Thanks - most interesting as I was wondering if I could do the same mod to my poly61

Sent from my Windows Phone
From: cyllall
Sent: ‎27/‎03/‎2013 22:54
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

Hi all,
I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
Martin.
http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html



Re: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-27 by Ullrich Peter

Hi!
I designed such a device and built it into my Kawai K3m and Casui CZ101.
Also the Poly61 and Polysix, Poly800 should be no problem.
You can find information here:
Ciao
Peter
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. März 2013 23:57
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Thanks - most interesting as I was wondering if I could do the same mod to my poly61

Sent from my Windows Phone
From: cyllall
Sent: ‎27/‎03/‎2013 22:54
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Replacing up down buttons

Hi all,
I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
Martin.
http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html



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Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-28 by bimmerfan222

Funny you bring this up, I was working on the protoboard for this mod last night.

I have been working on it here and there recently.. I may have an actual working board by this weekend (if I can just get a full day of uninterrupted work on it).

The board uses simple components.. a 7414 Hex Schmidt trigger, 7474 Dual D Flip Flop and a 4066 quad bilat. switch.. that and two .1 uF Electro. Caps and two 1k Resistors.
Add a quality 24ppr encoder to the board and solder the wires to the Korg in about 8 solder joints.

It will make the data value go up/down and the push in switch will activate the program/edit switch.. that way you can select your patch with the encoder, press the encoder in and you are in edit mode P1.. press again and you are in P2.. press again and you are back to patch selection.

I'm close to done.. really close!

Keep an eye on the board here.. I'll be posting a vid of it in action when it's all done and looks like it actually came from Korg with the dial on it. ;)

And yes, it should work on a Poly 61 and many other synths that have UP/DOWN buttons as well.. they all work on same/similar electronic/MPU designs.

-Blaine


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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "cyllall" <cyllall@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
> Martin.
> http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-28 by Martin Ator

I'm looking forward to seeing that working.


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From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2013, 12:29
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Replacing up down buttons

Funny you bring this up, I was working on the protoboard for this mod last night.

I have been working on it here and there recently.. I may have an actual working board by this weekend (if I can just get a full day of uninterrupted work on it).

The board uses simple components.. a 7414 Hex Schmidt trigger, 7474 Dual D Flip Flop and a 4066 quad bilat. switch.. that and two .1 uF Electro. Caps and two 1k Resistors.
Add a quality 24ppr encoder to the board and solder the wires to the Korg in about 8 solder joints.

It will make the data value go up/down and the push in switch will activate the program/edit switch.. that way you can select your patch with the encoder, press the encoder in and you are in edit mode P1.. press again and you are in P2.. press again and you are back to patch selection.

I'm close to done.. really close!

Keep an eye on the board here.. I'll be posting a vid of it in action when it's all done and looks like it actually came from Korg with the dial on it. ;)

And yes, it should work on a Poly 61 and many other synths that have UP/DOWN buttons as well.. they all work on same/similar electronic/MPU designs.

-Blaine

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "cyllall" <cyllall@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
> Martin.
> http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html
>



Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-28 by ullrich_67

Hi!

I designed such a device and built it into my Kawai K3m and Casio CZ101.
Also the Poly61 and Polysix, Poly800 should be no problem.
All synth that work with 3.3V or 5V on the keyboard should work as I switch analog switches in parallel to the built in buttons.

You can find information here:
http://synpro.heimat.eu/datadial.htm

Ciao
Peter

http://www.ullrich.at.tt


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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Martin Ator <cyllall@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing that working.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2013, 12:29
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Replacing up down buttons
>
>
> Â
> Funny you bring this up, I was working on the protoboard for this mod last night.
>
> I have been working on it here and there recently.. I may have an actual working board by this weekend (if I can just get a full day of uninterrupted work on it).
>
> The board uses simple components.. a 7414 Hex Schmidt trigger, 7474 Dual D Flip Flop and a 4066 quad bilat. switch.. that and two .1 uF Electro. Caps and two 1k Resistors.
> Add a quality 24ppr encoder to the board and solder the wires to the Korg in about 8 solder joints.
>
> It will make the data value go up/down and the push in switch will activate the program/edit switch.. that way you can select your patch with the encoder, press the encoder in and you are in edit mode P1.. press again and you are in P2.. press again and you are back to patch selection.
>
> I'm close to done.. really close!
>
> Keep an eye on the board here.. I'll be posting a vid of it in action when it's all done and looks like it actually came from Korg with the dial on it. ;)
>
> And yes, it should work on a Poly 61 and many other synths that have UP/DOWN buttons as well.. they all work on same/similar electronic/MPU designs.
>
> -Blaine
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "cyllall" <cyllall@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
> > Martin.
> > http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html
> >
>

Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-28 by ullrich_67

Hi!

Sorry if this email comes twice, but for me it seems that my emails don't come through.

I designed such a device and built it into my Kawai K3m and Casio CZ101.
Also the Poly61 and Polysix, Poly800 should be no problem.
Every device that works with 3.3V or 5V on the keyboard should work as I switch analog switches (controlled by the software in a little uC) in parallel to the built in buttons.

You can find information here:
http://synpro.heimat.eu/datadial.htm

Ciao
Peter

http://www.ullrich.at.tt

Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-28 by ullrich_67

Hi!

I designed such a device and built it into my Kawai K3m and Casui CZ101.
Also the Poly61 and Polysix, Poly800 should be no problem.
Generally spoken each device that works with 3.3V to 5V on the keyboard could be used with the datadial as I switch analog switches in parallel to the built in buttons. A little microcontroller on the datadial controls the analog switches according to the encoder movements.

You can find information here:
http://synpro.heimat.eu/datadial.htm

Ciao
Peter

http://www.ullrich.at.tt


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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Martin Ator <cyllall@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing that working.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2013, 12:29
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Replacing up down buttons
>
>
> Â
> Funny you bring this up, I was working on the protoboard for this mod last night.
>
> I have been working on it here and there recently.. I may have an actual working board by this weekend (if I can just get a full day of uninterrupted work on it).
>
> The board uses simple components.. a 7414 Hex Schmidt trigger, 7474 Dual D Flip Flop and a 4066 quad bilat. switch.. that and two .1 uF Electro. Caps and two 1k Resistors.
> Add a quality 24ppr encoder to the board and solder the wires to the Korg in about 8 solder joints.
>
> It will make the data value go up/down and the push in switch will activate the program/edit switch.. that way you can select your patch with the encoder, press the encoder in and you are in edit mode P1.. press again and you are in P2.. press again and you are back to patch selection.
>
> I'm close to done.. really close!
>
> Keep an eye on the board here.. I'll be posting a vid of it in action when it's all done and looks like it actually came from Korg with the dial on it. ;)
>
> And yes, it should work on a Poly 61 and many other synths that have UP/DOWN buttons as well.. they all work on same/similar electronic/MPU designs.
>
> -Blaine
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "cyllall" <cyllall@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
> > Martin.
> > http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html
> >
>

Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-28 by ullrich_67

Hi!

I designed such a device and built it into my Kawai K3m and Casui CZ101.
Also the Poly61 and Polysix, Poly800 should be no problem.
Generally spoken each device that works with 3.3V to 5V on the keyboard could be used with the datadial as I switch analog switches in parallel to the built in buttons. A little microcontroller on the datadial controls the analog switches according to the encoder movements.

You can find information here:
http://synpro.heimat.eu/datadial.htm

Ciao
Peter

http://www.ullrich.at.tt

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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Martin Ator <cyllall@...> wrote:
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing that working.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, 28 March 2013, 12:29
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Replacing up down buttons
>
>
> Â
> Funny you bring this up, I was working on the protoboard for this mod last night.
>
> I have been working on it here and there recently.. I may have an actual working board by this weekend (if I can just get a full day of uninterrupted work on it).
>
> The board uses simple components.. a 7414 Hex Schmidt trigger, 7474 Dual D Flip Flop and a 4066 quad bilat. switch.. that and two .1 uF Electro. Caps and two 1k Resistors.
> Add a quality 24ppr encoder to the board and solder the wires to the Korg in about 8 solder joints.
>
> It will make the data value go up/down and the push in switch will activate the program/edit switch.. that way you can select your patch with the encoder, press the encoder in and you are in edit mode P1.. press again and you are in P2.. press again and you are back to patch selection.
>
> I'm close to done.. really close!
>
> Keep an eye on the board here.. I'll be posting a vid of it in action when it's all done and looks like it actually came from Korg with the dial on it. ;)
>
> And yes, it should work on a Poly 61 and many other synths that have UP/DOWN buttons as well.. they all work on same/similar electronic/MPU designs.
>
> -Blaine
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "cyllall" <cyllall@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
> > Martin.
> > http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html
> >
>

Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-28 by ullrich_67

Hi!

I designed such a device and built it into my Kawai K3m and Casui CZ101.
Also the Poly61 and Polysix, Poly800 should be no problem.
Generally spoken each device that works with 3.3V to 5V on the keyboard could be used with the datadial as I switch analog switches in parallel to the built in buttons. A little microcontroller on the datadial controls the analog switches according to the encoder movements.

You can find information here:
http://synpro.heimat.eu/datadial.htm

Ciao
Peter
http://www.ullrich.at.tt


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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "cyllall" <cyllall@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
> Martin.
> http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html
>

RE: [korgpolyex] Re: Replacing up down buttons

2013-03-30 by tim p

Great work PE, and thanks for sharing your knowledge.

I'll have a look at the information on the site and will probably order soon - cheers Tim


Sent from my Windows Phone
From: bimmerfan222
Sent: ‎28/‎03/‎2013 12:29
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Replacing up down buttons

Funny you bring this up, I was working on the protoboard for this mod last night.

I have been working on it here and there recently.. I may have an actual working board by this weekend (if I can just get a full day of uninterrupted work on it).

The board uses simple components.. a 7414 Hex Schmidt trigger, 7474 Dual D Flip Flop and a 4066 quad bilat. switch.. that and two .1 uF Electro. Caps and two 1k Resistors.
Add a quality 24ppr encoder to the board and solder the wires to the Korg in about 8 solder joints.

It will make the data value go up/down and the push in switch will activate the program/edit switch.. that way you can select your patch with the encoder, press the encoder in and you are in edit mode P1.. press again and you are in P2.. press again and you are back to patch selection.

I'm close to done.. really close!

Keep an eye on the board here.. I'll be posting a vid of it in action when it's all done and looks like it actually came from Korg with the dial on it. ;)

And yes, it should work on a Poly 61 and many other synths that have UP/DOWN buttons as well.. they all work on same/similar electronic/MPU designs.

-Blaine

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "cyllall" <cyllall@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I seem to remember someone mentioning using an encoder instead of the up/down buttons. It may be possible to use this module but I haven't tried it myself. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone was interested. I think the outputs would be connected across the switch contacts.
> Martin.
> http://diy4fun.blogspot.com.au/2010/01/rotary-encoder-for-ats-transceiver.html
>