New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
2012-10-02 by Jonathan Schecter

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2012-10-02 by Jonathan Schecter
2012-10-02 by Michael Hawkins
On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
>
>
> You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
kicking about ;-)
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
2012-10-02 by bimmerfan222
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>
2012-10-05 by bodhi_light
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bimmerfan222" <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
>
> -Blaine
>
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > Â
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>
2012-10-05 by backshall1
I’ve been using 300ma for years. No problem. The only thing that is really critical is that it has to have the center pin NEGATIVE. This is backwards from most AC adapters, but fairly normal for a lot of Korg and Roland products. The size is hard to measure but I believe it is a standard 5.5mm outside, 2.5mm inside diameter.
Don B.
From:
korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of bodhi_light
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012
8:38 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New
Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
So 300ma is good? I saw 800 there as well. Also the
adapters at radio shack have adjustable tips. Which on do I need? I'd prefer
not to schlep the Korg there. Thanks again. This is a helpful group!
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com,
"bimmerfan222" <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
without any problems.
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I
>
Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
>
> - Blaine
>
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com,
> >
is really the right size for it.
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp
> >
about multi mods (Hawk)
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
> >
some
> >
> > Â
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>
2012-10-05 by Martin Ator
>without any problems.
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I
>Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
>
> - Blaine
>
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com,
> >is really the right size for it.
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp
> >about multi mods (Hawk)
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
> >some
> >
> > Â
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>
2012-12-22 by Jill Saphic
--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
-Blaine
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>
2012-12-22 by L
>hello!
>OH MY GOD!
>I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
>that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
>or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
>
>from the Korg website:
>*9 VOLT 300 Milliamps*
>Part/Model number:
>KAC9500
>center plug is 2,1 mm.
>outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
>center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative.
>
> , thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
>are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
>thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
>300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
>LOL!!!
>those had to be a joke right?
>
>whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
>I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
>are lots more!
>hope I wasn't too late for you!
>--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
>From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
>Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
>But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
>there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
>-Blaine
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>>
>> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
>> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>>
>>
>> Â
>> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>>
>> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
>> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
>> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
>> kicking about ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins
hello!OH MY GOD!I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these repliesthat suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,or anything over 300 MilliAmps.from the Korg website:*9 VOLT 300 Milliamps*Part/Model number:
KAC9500center plug is 2,1 mm.
outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative., thats what all the Poly800 eletronicsare rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all aboutmelted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,LOL!!!those had to be a joke right?whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and thereare lots more!hope I wasn't too late for you!--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
-Blaine
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>
2012-12-22 by w.james.meagher@gmail.com
On 2012-12-22, at 1:45, Jill Saphic <jill_saphic@...> wrote:
hello!OH MY GOD!I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these repliesthat suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,or anything over 300 MilliAmps.from the Korg website:*9 VOLT 300 Milliamps*Part/Model number:
KAC9500center plug is 2,1 mm.
outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative., thats what all the Poly800 eletronicsare rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all aboutmelted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,LOL!!!those had to be a joke right?whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and thereare lots more!hope I wasn't too late for you!--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
-Blaine
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>
2012-12-22 by KurtF
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jill Saphic <jill_saphic@...> wrote:
>
> hello!
> OH MY GOD!
> I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
> that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
> or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
> Â
> from the Korg website:
> *9 VOLTÂ 300 Milliamps*
> Part/Model number:
> KAC9500
> center plug is 2,1 mm.
> outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
> center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative.
> Â
> Â , thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
> are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> Â You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
> LOL!!!
> those had to be a joke right?
>
> whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
> I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
> are lots more!
> hope I wasn't too late for you!
> --- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
> -Blaine
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > ÃÂ
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>
2012-12-22 by Michael Hawkins
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jill Saphic <jill_saphic@...> wrote:
>
> hello!
> OH MY GOD!
> I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
> that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
> or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
> Â
> from the Korg website:
> *9 VOLTÂ 300 Milliamps*
> Part/Model number:
> KAC9500
> center plug is 2,1 mm.
> outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
> center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative.
> Â
> Â , thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
> are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> Â You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
> LOL!!!
> those had to be a joke right?
>
> whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
> I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
> are lots more!
> hope I wasn't too late for you!
> --- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
> -Blaine
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>
2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce
> This is a good question...300mA is not really enough to run even a stock Poly 800. I know it says
> I agree with using the stock 300ma psu for a stock Poly.
> What kind of power does the Atomahawk need?
> Any ideas Mike?
2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins
On 22 Dec 2012, at 18:00, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:On 22/12/12 12:56, L wrote:
> This is a good question...
> I agree with using the stock 300ma psu for a stock Poly.
> What kind of power does the Atomahawk need?
> Any ideas Mike?
300mA is not really enough to run even a stock Poly 800. I know it says
that in the manual, but in practice it's better to use something a bit
heavier.
For all my 9V gear, if it's on a separate wall-wart I use a 9V 1A PSU
(because I bought a large box of them) and for the stuff that's racked
up I have a single regulated 9V 6.A unit that is split out to everything.
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce
> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
2012-12-22 by backshall1
Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences between a modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large transformer type adapter.
The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the voltage varies with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at 300ma, it probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The voltage will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it. That might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit inside the Poly-800.
On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it, and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can usually tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with nothing plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old transformer type. If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of some of the power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
Don Backshall
From:
korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012
1:40 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New
Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
you wire it across a 200A battery?
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce
> really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. AMmm, not quite. An unregulated supply typically puts out √2Vnominal so
> large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as
> high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a
> 300ma load on it.
> On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, itThe output is generally electrically quieter, too, although they can
> is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it,
> and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma,
> so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely... or weight ;-)
> have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or
> not. You can usually tell from the size.
2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins
On 22 Dec 2012, at 19:19, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:On 22/12/12 19:08, backshall1 wrote:
> really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A
> large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as
> high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a
> 300ma load on it.
Mmm, not quite. An unregulated supply typically puts out √2Vnominal so
for a 9V unregulated supply you'd expect to see about 12.7V offload,
regardless of the output current.
> On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it
> is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it,
> and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma,
The output is generally electrically quieter, too, although they can
crowbar some nasty noise onto the mains supply. RFI can be a problem
with cheap ones, too.
> so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely
> have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or
> not. You can usually tell from the size.
... or weight ;-)
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce
>Somewhere my mate Malc's old HR16 is still around, with its butchered
> Don't get me started on Alesis AC wallwarts.....
>
2012-12-22 by backshall1
Yes, 12.7V would be nominal for a properly designed adapter. Maybe the wide range of voltages I’ve seen coming from these things is their way to compensate for poorly designed, poorly manufactured cheap transformers they put in these things? The 5V regulator in the Poly-800 doesn’t seem to have any trouble filtering the noise from a cheap switching adapter, but I suppose you would want to keep the adapter far away from something like a wireless mike receiver.
Don B.
From:
korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012
2:20 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New
Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
On 22/12/12 19:08, backshall1 wrote:
> really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A
Mmm, not quite. An unregulated supply typically puts out √2Vnominal so
> large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as
> high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a
> 300ma load on it.
for a 9V unregulated supply you'd expect to see about 12.7V offload,
regardless of the output current.
> On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it
The output is generally electrically quieter, too, although they can
> is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it,
> and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma,
crowbar some nasty noise onto the mains supply. RFI can be a problem
with cheap ones, too.
> so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely
... or weight ;-)
> have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or
> not. You can usually tell from the size.
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins
On 22/12/12 19:27, Jason Adkins wrote:
>
> Don't get me started on Alesis AC wallwarts.....
>
Somewhere my mate Malc's old HR16 is still around, with its butchered
ZX81 power supply that I made up about an hour before a gig that his old
band had, back in about 1992. It failed literally during the final
runthrough before packing everything up and driving to the pub -
fortunately I had my workshop keys for the wee computer shop I worked
in, so off we went, rummaged in the Big Bumper Fun Box Of Shite, and
conjured up a PSU.
"Right, that'll do for now", I said, "but it's really going to need a
proper one at some point". When I last saw it something like 15 years
later, it was still going...
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
2012-12-22 by L
>Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences between a
>modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large transformer
>type adapter.
>
>The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the voltage varies
>with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at 300ma, it
>probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The voltage
>will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really needs more
>than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large transformer
>type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V with no
>load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it. That
>might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit inside the
>Poly-800.
>
>
>
>On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it is
>probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it, and it
>will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so there is
>no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have markings on
>them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can usually
>tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with nothing
>plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old transformer type.
>If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of some of the
>power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
>
>
>
>Don Backshall
>
>
>
> _____
>
>From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
>about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
>
>
>
>On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
>
>> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
>> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
>> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>
>You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
>motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
>you wire it across a 200A battery?
>
>--
>Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>
>
>
2012-12-23 by Jason Adkins
Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of the cheap wall wart that came with it.
Lucifer
backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:
>Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences between a
>modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large transformer
>type adapter.
>
>The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the voltage varies
>with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at 300ma, it
>probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The voltage
>will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really needs more
>than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large transformer
>type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V with no
>load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it. That
>might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit inside the
>Poly-800.
>
>
>
>On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it is
>probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it, and it
>will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so there is
>no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have markings on
>them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can usually
>tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with nothing
>plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old transformer type.
>If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of some of the
>power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
>
>
>
>Don Backshall
>
>
>
> _____
>
>From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
>about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
>
>
>
>On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
>
>> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
>> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
>> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>
>You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
>motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
>you wire it across a 200A battery?
>
>--
>Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>
>
>
2012-12-23 by KurtF
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> wrote:
>
> On 22/12/12 19:27, Jason Adkins wrote:
> >
> > Don't get me started on Alesis AC wallwarts.....
> >
>
> Somewhere my mate Malc's old HR16 is still around, with its butchered
> ZX81 power supply that I made up about an hour before a gig that his old
> band had, back in about 1992. It failed literally during the final
> runthrough before packing everything up and driving to the pub -
> fortunately I had my workshop keys for the wee computer shop I worked
> in, so off we went, rummaged in the Big Bumper Fun Box Of Shite, and
> conjured up a PSU.
>
> "Right, that'll do for now", I said, "but it's really going to need a
> proper one at some point". When I last saw it something like 15 years
> later, it was still going...
>
> --
> Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>
2012-12-23 by KurtF
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> I have never used an Fizmo is it like a Emu Proteus?
>
> On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:58, L wrote:
>
> > Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of
> > the cheap wall wart that came with it.
> > Lucifer
> >
> > backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:
> >
> > >Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences
> > between a
> > >modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter.
> > >
> > >The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the
> > voltage varies
> > >with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at
> > 300ma, it
> > >probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The
> > voltage
> > >will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really
> > needs more
> > >than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V
> > with no
> > >load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it.
> > That
> > >might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit
> > inside the
> > >Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter,
> > it is
> > >probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in
> > it, and it
> > >will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so
> > there is
> > >no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have
> > markings on
> > >them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can
> > usually
> > >tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with
> > nothing
> > >plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old
> > transformer type.
> > >If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of
> > some of the
> > >power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Don Backshall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
> > >Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> > >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and
> > question
> > >about multi mods (Hawk)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
> > >
> > >> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> > >> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go
> > above
> > >> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> > >
> > >You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
> > >motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
> > >you wire it across a 200A battery?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
2012-12-23 by L
>FIZMO is not like Proteus at all. Proteus type are ROMplers and very good ones. I have a Proteus 2000 with additional ROM chips for more sounds. FIZMO is a transwave synthesizer that blends together different sections of base sound waves into new morphing combinations. It's sort of the difference between playing a recording of a violin and playing a violin. Except FIZMO isn't good for violins, while the Proteus is. If I'm explaining that clearly enough. Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hiya,
>>
>> I have never used an Fizmo is it like a Emu Proteus?
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:58, L wrote:
>>
>> > Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of
>> > the cheap wall wart that came with it.
>> > Lucifer
>> >
>> > backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences
>> > between a
>> > >modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large
>> > transformer
>> > >type adapter.
>> > >
>> > >The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the
>> > voltage varies
>> > >with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at
>> > 300ma, it
>> > >probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The
>> > voltage
>> > >will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really
>> > needs more
>> > >than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large
>> > transformer
>> > >type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V
>> > with no
>> > >load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it.
>> > That
>> > >might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit
>> > inside the
>> > >Poly-800.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter,
>> > it is
>> > >probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in
>> > it, and it
>> > >will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so
>> > there is
>> > >no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have
>> > markings on
>> > >them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can
>> > usually
>> > >tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with
>> > nothing
>> > >plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old
>> > transformer type.
>> > >If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of
>> > some of the
>> > >power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Don Backshall
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _____
>> > >
>> > >From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>> > [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
>> > >Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
>> > >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
>> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>> > >Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and
>> > question
>> > >about multi mods (Hawk)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
>> > >> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go
>> > above
>> > >> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>> > >
>> > >You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
>> > >motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
>> > >you wire it across a 200A battery?
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
2012-12-23 by Jason Adkins
FIZMO is not like Proteus at all. Proteus type are ROMplers and very good ones. I have a Proteus 2000 with additional ROM chips for more sounds. FIZMO is a transwave synthesizer that blends together different sections of base sound waves into new morphing combinations. It's sort of the difference between playing a recording of a violin and playing a violin. Except FIZMO isn't good for violins, while the Proteus is. If I'm explaining that clearly enough. Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?
--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> I have never used an Fizmo is it like a Emu Proteus?
>
> On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:58, L wrote:
>
> > Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of
> > the cheap wall wart that came with it.
> > Lucifer
> >
> > backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:
> >
> > >Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences
> > between a
> > >modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter.
> > >
> > >The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the
> > voltage varies
> > >with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at
> > 300ma, it
> > >probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The
> > voltage
> > >will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really
> > needs more
> > >than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V
> > with no
> > >load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it.
> > That
> > >might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit
> > inside the
> > >Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter,
> > it is
> > >probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in
> > it, and it
> > >will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so
> > there is
> > >no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have
> > markings on
> > >them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can
> > usually
> > >tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with
> > nothing
> > >plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old
> > transformer type.
> > >If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of
> > some of the
> > >power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Don Backshall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
> > >Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> > >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and
> > question
> > >about multi mods (Hawk)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
> > >
> > >> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> > >> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go
> > above
> > >> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> > >
> > >You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
> > >motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
> > >you wire it across a 200A battery?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
2012-12-23 by Gordon JC Pearce
> Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while"Naw."
> FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?
2012-12-23 by Jason Adkins
On 23 Dec 2012, at 16:28, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:On 23/12/12 15:56, KurtF wrote:
> Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while
> FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?
"Naw."
http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/s50.jpg
Estelle the House Cat says "Get yourself one of these Roland S50s, silly
human!"
That's a dope 909 kick you've got there, wee cat.
--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ