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New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-10-02 by Jonathan Schecter

Hello, I just purchased a Korg Poly 800 but it did not come with a power adaptor. Where could I find one? Radio Shack maybe? Also this Poly 800 alrady has the moog slayer mod, can I still do the Hawk modifications? Thank you for your time and assistance.

Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-10-02 by Michael Hawkins

Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.

Mike

From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
>
>
> You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.

300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
kicking about ;-)

--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ


Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-10-02 by bimmerfan222

I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.

there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.


-Blaine



--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>

Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-10-05 by bodhi_light

So 300ma is good? I saw 800 there as well. Also the adapters at radio shack have adjustable tips. Which on do I need? I'd prefer not to schlep the Korg there. Thanks again. This is a helpful group!

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bimmerfan222" <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
>
> -Blaine
>
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > Â
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>

RE: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-10-05 by backshall1

I’ve been using 300ma for years. No problem. The only thing that is really critical is that it has to have the center pin NEGATIVE. This is backwards from most AC adapters, but fairly normal for a lot of Korg and Roland products. The size is hard to measure but I believe it is a standard 5.5mm outside, 2.5mm inside diameter.

Don B.

From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of bodhi_light
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:38 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

So 300ma is good? I saw 800 there as well. Also the adapters at radio shack have adjustable tips. Which on do I need? I'd prefer not to schlep the Korg there. Thanks again. This is a helpful group!

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bimmerfan222" <bperkins211@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year
without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I
may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
>
> - Blaine
>
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com,
Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp
is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > Â
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed
some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-10-05 by Martin Ator

I would advise against using any power supply that has removable tips enabling reversal of the polarity. This is a disaster waiting to happen. 1 split second of absent mindedness will fry components inside your Poly. You might decide to test something else and swap polarity and then forget to change it back again.

Just search on ebay for Roland TR-606 power supply and see what you can find. Something with a permanently set polarity is safer. Stick a label with Poly-800 only written on it to the power supply if you must.

These power supplies are usually all switched mode ones of at least 500ma.

Remember CENTRE/CENTER NEGATIVE.

From: backshall1 <backshall1@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 5 October 2012, 2:06
Subject: RE: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

I’ve been using 300ma for years. No problem. The only thing that is really critical is that it has to have the center pin NEGATIVE. This is backwards from most AC adapters, but fairly normal for a lot of Korg and Roland products. The size is hard to measure but I believe it is a standard 5.5mm outside, 2.5mm inside diameter.
Don B.
From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of bodhi_light
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:38 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
So 300ma is good? I saw 800 there as well. Also the adapters at radio shack have adjustable tips. Which on do I need? I'd prefer not to schlep the Korg there. Thanks again. This is a helpful group!

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bimmerfan222" <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year
without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I
may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
>
> - Blaine
>
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com,
Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp
is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > Â
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed
some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>


Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Jill Saphic

hello!
OH MY GOD!
I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
from the Korg website:
*9 VOLT 300 Milliamps*
Part/Model number:
KAC9500
center plug is 2,1 mm.
outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative
.
, thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
LOL!!!
those had to be a joke right?
whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
are lots more!
hope I wasn't too late for you!
--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:

From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51



I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.

there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.

-Blaine

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by L

This is a good question...
I agree with using the stock 300ma psu for a stock Poly.
What kind of power does the Atomahawk need?
Any ideas Mike?

Jill Saphic <jill_saphic@...> wrote:

>hello!
>OH MY GOD!
>I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
>that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
>or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
>
>from the Korg website:
>*9 VOLT 300 Milliamps*
>Part/Model number:
>KAC9500
>center plug is 2,1 mm.
>outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
>center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative.
>
> , thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
>are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
>thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
>300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
>LOL!!!
>those had to be a joke right?
>
>whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
>I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
>are lots more!
>hope I wasn't too late for you!
>--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
>From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
>Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
>But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
>there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
>-Blaine
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>>
>> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
>> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>>
>>
>> Â
>> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>>
>> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
>> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
>> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
>> kicking about ;-)
>>
>> --
>> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins

I might me wrong but in theory the Poly800 should just draw what it needs whatever the ampage?

On 22 Dec 2012, at 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:

hello!
OH MY GOD!
I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
from the Korg website:
*9 VOLT 300 Milliamps*
Part/Model number:
KAC9500
center plug is 2,1 mm.
outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative
.
, thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
LOL!!!
those had to be a joke right?
whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
are lots more!
hope I wasn't too late for you!
--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:

From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51



I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.

there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.

-Blaine

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>


Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by w.james.meagher@gmail.com

What would damage it is having an adapter rated for LESS than 300mA, not more. You can use an adapter rated for more Amps and the Poly800 will only draw what it needs - and will be fine doing it. 300mA is a MINIMUM.



Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-22, at 1:45, Jill Saphic <jill_saphic@...> wrote:

hello!
OH MY GOD!
I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
from the Korg website:
*9 VOLT 300 Milliamps*
Part/Model number:
KAC9500
center plug is 2,1 mm.
outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative
.
, thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
LOL!!!
those had to be a joke right?
whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
are lots more!
hope I wasn't too late for you!
--- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:

From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51



I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.

there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.

-Blaine

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
> Â
> On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> >
> >
> > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
>
> 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> kicking about ;-)
>
> --
> Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
>

Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by KurtF

The current doesn't matter as long at the power supply provides at least as much as the device needs. Device destruction occurs when the voltage doesn't match. VOLTAGE MUST MATCH. The device will draw only as much current as it needs. The power supply will not 'force' extra current into it. Current is just potential. How much electric force is potentially available. A 300mA device can use a 1000mA power supply. Less than 300mA may just do nothing, or it may damage the device on rare occasions in particular types of circuits, which are not found in synthesizers. More current available does not mean it will harm the device. I am not going to make claims about anyone else's education in particular, but basic electric theory appears not to be some people's strong suit.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jill Saphic <jill_saphic@...> wrote:
>
> hello!
> OH MY GOD!
> I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
> that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
> or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
> Â
> from the Korg website:
> *9 VOLTÂ 300 Milliamps*
> Part/Model number:
> KAC9500
> center plug is 2,1 mm.
> outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
> center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative.
> Â
> Â , thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
> are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> Â You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
> LOL!!!
> those had to be a joke right?
>
> whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
> I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
> are lots more!
> hope I wasn't too late for you!
> --- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
> -Blaine
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Michael Hawkins

Correct. The current rating of power supplies is the maximum current that the unit can supply to the load. If the load is only 2 milliamps then the load will only "pull" or "draw" 2 milliamps and it doesn't matter what the current rating of the power supply is, it won't supply more than is drawn.


From: KurtF <darkside@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 9:46 AM
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

The current doesn't matter as long at the power supply provides at least as much as the device needs. Device destruction occurs when the voltage doesn't match. VOLTAGE MUST MATCH. The device will draw only as much current as it needs. The power supply will not 'force' extra current into it. Current is just potential. How much electric force is potentially available. A 300mA device can use a 1000mA power supply. Less than 300mA may just do nothing, or it may damage the device on rare occasions in particular types of circuits, which are not found in synthesizers. More current available does not mean it will harm the device. I am not going to make claims about anyone else's education in particular, but basic electric theory appears not to be some people's strong suit.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jill Saphic <jill_saphic@...> wrote:
>
> hello!
> OH MY GOD!
> I so hope you didn't listen to ANY of these replies
> that suggested 1000 MA, or 650 MA, or 600MA,
> or anything over 300 MilliAmps.
> Â
> from the Korg website:
> *9 VOLTÂ 300 Milliamps*
> Part/Model number:
> KAC9500
> center plug is 2,1 mm.
> outer ring of PSU connector is "+" positive.
> center tip of PSU connector is "-" negative.
> Â
> Â , thats what all the Poly800 eletronics
> are rated for, what comes with Poly800 from the factory,
> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> Â You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> melted plastic and burning caps and resistors and PCBs,,,
> LOL!!!
> those had to be a joke right?
>
> whatever... I hope you didn't melt your KORG...
> I just bought this adaptor on eBay for 8.50 USD, and there
> are lots more!
> hope I wasn't too late for you!
> --- On Tue, 2/10/12, bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...>
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, 2 October, 2012, 23:51
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
> I've been using a radio Shack 300mA supply on my korg for the last year without any problems.
> But I would agree that having at least 500mA would be preferrable.
>
> there are 1A 9v adapters on ebay everyday for about 5 dollars shipped... I may have to invest in one and upgrade mine.
>
> -Blaine
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Holy moly! My bad, I meant to say 600mA. But you're right that 1Amp is really the right size for it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@>
> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)
> >
> >
> > ÂÂ
> > On 02/10/12 13:48, Michael Hawkins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > You will need a 9V DC 300mA power adapter.
> >
> > 300mA doesn't really sound like enough; mine draws a good 650mA when
> > it's running. The PSU that came with it is rated at 1A, but failed some
> > time ago. I now use it with a 1.5A PSU because that was what I had
> > kicking about ;-)
> >
> > --
> > Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ
> >
>



Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce

On 22/12/12 12:56, L wrote:
> This is a good question...
> I agree with using the stock 300ma psu for a stock Poly.
> What kind of power does the Atomahawk need?
> Any ideas Mike?

300mA is not really enough to run even a stock Poly 800. I know it says
that in the manual, but in practice it's better to use something a bit
heavier.

For all my 9V gear, if it's on a separate wall-wart I use a 9V 1A PSU
(because I bought a large box of them) and for the stuff that's racked
up I have a single regulated 9V 6.A unit that is split out to everything.

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins

Correct,

I recently bought an EX800 and the first thing I did before I even switched it on was to trash the crappy non-korg
300ma psu i got with it.


On 22 Dec 2012, at 18:00, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

On 22/12/12 12:56, L wrote:
> This is a good question...
> I agree with using the stock 300ma psu for a stock Poly.
> What kind of power does the Atomahawk need?
> Any ideas Mike?

300mA is not really enough to run even a stock Poly 800. I know it says
that in the manual, but in practice it's better to use something a bit
heavier.

For all my 9V gear, if it's on a separate wall-wart I use a 9V 1A PSU
(because I bought a large box of them) and for the stuff that's racked
up I have a single regulated 9V 6.A unit that is split out to everything.

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ


Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce

On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:

> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about

You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
you wire it across a 200A battery?

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

RE: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by backshall1

Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences between a modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large transformer type adapter.

The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the voltage varies with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at 300ma, it probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The voltage will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it. That might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit inside the Poly-800.

On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it, and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can usually tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with nothing plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old transformer type. If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of some of the power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.

Don Backshall

From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:

> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about

You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
you wire it across a 200A battery?

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce

On 22/12/12 19:08, backshall1 wrote:

> really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A
> large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as
> high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a
> 300ma load on it.

Mmm, not quite. An unregulated supply typically puts out √2Vnominal so
for a 9V unregulated supply you'd expect to see about 12.7V offload,
regardless of the output current.

> On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it
> is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it,
> and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma,

The output is generally electrically quieter, too, although they can
crowbar some nasty noise onto the mains supply. RFI can be a problem
with cheap ones, too.

> so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely
> have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or
> not. You can usually tell from the size.

... or weight ;-)

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins

Don't get me started on Alesis AC wallwarts.....

On 22 Dec 2012, at 19:19, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

On 22/12/12 19:08, backshall1 wrote:

> really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A
> large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as
> high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a
> 300ma load on it.

Mmm, not quite. An unregulated supply typically puts out √2Vnominal so
for a 9V unregulated supply you'd expect to see about 12.7V offload,
regardless of the output current.

> On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it
> is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it,
> and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma,

The output is generally electrically quieter, too, although they can
crowbar some nasty noise onto the mains supply. RFI can be a problem
with cheap ones, too.

> so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely
> have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or
> not. You can usually tell from the size.

... or weight ;-)

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ


Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Gordon JC Pearce

On 22/12/12 19:27, Jason Adkins wrote:
>
> Don't get me started on Alesis AC wallwarts.....
>

Somewhere my mate Malc's old HR16 is still around, with its butchered
ZX81 power supply that I made up about an hour before a gig that his old
band had, back in about 1992. It failed literally during the final
runthrough before packing everything up and driving to the pub -
fortunately I had my workshop keys for the wee computer shop I worked
in, so off we went, rummaged in the Big Bumper Fun Box Of Shite, and
conjured up a PSU.

"Right, that'll do for now", I said, "but it's really going to need a
proper one at some point". When I last saw it something like 15 years
later, it was still going...

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

RE: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by backshall1

Yes, 12.7V would be nominal for a properly designed adapter. Maybe the wide range of voltages I’ve seen coming from these things is their way to compensate for poorly designed, poorly manufactured cheap transformers they put in these things? The 5V regulator in the Poly-800 doesn’t seem to have any trouble filtering the noise from a cheap switching adapter, but I suppose you would want to keep the adapter far away from something like a wireless mike receiver.

Don B.

From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 2:20 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

On 22/12/12 19:08, backshall1 wrote:

> really needs more than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A
> large transformer type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as
> high as 20V with no load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a
> 300ma load on it.

Mmm, not quite. An unregulated supply typically puts out √2Vnominal so
for a 9V unregulated supply you'd expect to see about 12.7V offload,
regardless of the output current.

> On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it
> is probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it,
> and it will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma,

The output is generally electrically quieter, too, although they can
crowbar some nasty noise onto the mains supply. RFI can be a problem
with cheap ones, too.

> so there is no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely
> have markings on them to show whether they are switching supplies or
> not. You can usually tell from the size.

... or weight ;-)

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by Jason Adkins

ha ha,

it was the stupid jack lead that gets me I have a Midiverb 3 in studio the same.
What was annoying on the road more than an HR16 which could have been got round was the MMT8 sequencer failing to start, now that was fucking embarrasing.
Not as big bumper box of crap as your's so guess who got the blame,I actually had everything backed up on an MC-500 but I wasn't telling those cunts....

On 22 Dec 2012, at 19:36, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

On 22/12/12 19:27, Jason Adkins wrote:
>
> Don't get me started on Alesis AC wallwarts.....
>

Somewhere my mate Malc's old HR16 is still around, with its butchered
ZX81 power supply that I made up about an hour before a gig that his old
band had, back in about 1992. It failed literally during the final
runthrough before packing everything up and driving to the pub -
fortunately I had my workshop keys for the wee computer shop I worked
in, so off we went, rummaged in the Big Bumper Fun Box Of Shite, and
conjured up a PSU.

"Right, that'll do for now", I said, "but it's really going to need a
proper one at some point". When I last saw it something like 15 years
later, it was still going...

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ


RE: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-22 by L

Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of the cheap wall wart that came with it.
Lucifer

backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:

>Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences between a
>modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large transformer
>type adapter.
>
>The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the voltage varies
>with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at 300ma, it
>probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The voltage
>will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really needs more
>than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large transformer
>type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V with no
>load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it. That
>might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit inside the
>Poly-800.
>
>
>
>On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it is
>probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it, and it
>will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so there is
>no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have markings on
>them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can usually
>tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with nothing
>plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old transformer type.
>If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of some of the
>power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
>
>
>
>Don Backshall
>
>
>
> _____
>
>From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
>about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
>
>
>
>On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
>
>> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
>> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
>> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>
>You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
>motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
>you wire it across a 200A battery?
>
>--
>Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>
>
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-23 by Jason Adkins

Hiya,

I have never used an Fizmo is it like a Emu Proteus?

On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:58, L wrote:

Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of the cheap wall wart that came with it.
Lucifer

backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:

>Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences between a
>modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large transformer
>type adapter.
>
>The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the voltage varies
>with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at 300ma, it
>probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The voltage
>will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really needs more
>than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large transformer
>type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V with no
>load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it. That
>might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit inside the
>Poly-800.
>
>
>
>On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter, it is
>probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in it, and it
>will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so there is
>no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have markings on
>them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can usually
>tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with nothing
>plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old transformer type.
>If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of some of the
>power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
>
>
>
>Don Backshall
>
>
>
> _____
>
>From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
>Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
>Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
>To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question
>about multi mods (Hawk)
>
>
>
>
>
>On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
>
>> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
>> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go above
>> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>
>You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
>motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
>you wire it across a 200A battery?
>
>--
>Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>
>
>


Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-23 by KurtF

Brilliant, mate! Just fookin' brilliant! Got me laughin'.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> wrote:
>
> On 22/12/12 19:27, Jason Adkins wrote:
> >
> > Don't get me started on Alesis AC wallwarts.....
> >
>
> Somewhere my mate Malc's old HR16 is still around, with its butchered
> ZX81 power supply that I made up about an hour before a gig that his old
> band had, back in about 1992. It failed literally during the final
> runthrough before packing everything up and driving to the pub -
> fortunately I had my workshop keys for the wee computer shop I worked
> in, so off we went, rummaged in the Big Bumper Fun Box Of Shite, and
> conjured up a PSU.
>
> "Right, that'll do for now", I said, "but it's really going to need a
> proper one at some point". When I last saw it something like 15 years
> later, it was still going...
>
> --
> Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>

Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-23 by KurtF

FIZMO is not like Proteus at all. Proteus type are ROMplers and very good ones. I have a Proteus 2000 with additional ROM chips for more sounds. FIZMO is a transwave synthesizer that blends together different sections of base sound waves into new morphing combinations. It's sort of the difference between playing a recording of a violin and playing a violin. Except FIZMO isn't good for violins, while the Proteus is. If I'm explaining that clearly enough. Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> I have never used an Fizmo is it like a Emu Proteus?
>
> On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:58, L wrote:
>
> > Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of
> > the cheap wall wart that came with it.
> > Lucifer
> >
> > backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:
> >
> > >Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences
> > between a
> > >modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter.
> > >
> > >The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the
> > voltage varies
> > >with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at
> > 300ma, it
> > >probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The
> > voltage
> > >will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really
> > needs more
> > >than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V
> > with no
> > >load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it.
> > That
> > >might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit
> > inside the
> > >Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter,
> > it is
> > >probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in
> > it, and it
> > >will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so
> > there is
> > >no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have
> > markings on
> > >them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can
> > usually
> > >tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with
> > nothing
> > >plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old
> > transformer type.
> > >If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of
> > some of the
> > >power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Don Backshall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
> > >Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> > >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and
> > question
> > >about multi mods (Hawk)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
> > >
> > >> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> > >> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go
> > above
> > >> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> > >
> > >You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
> > >motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
> > >you wire it across a 200A battery?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-23 by L

Pretty close...
Id say the Fizmo is like playing a cat that morphs into a violin that morphs into machinery that morphs into bells that morph into... etc etc.
Its pretty unique
Lucifer

KurtF <darkside@...> wrote:

>FIZMO is not like Proteus at all. Proteus type are ROMplers and very good ones. I have a Proteus 2000 with additional ROM chips for more sounds. FIZMO is a transwave synthesizer that blends together different sections of base sound waves into new morphing combinations. It's sort of the difference between playing a recording of a violin and playing a violin. Except FIZMO isn't good for violins, while the Proteus is. If I'm explaining that clearly enough. Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hiya,
>>
>> I have never used an Fizmo is it like a Emu Proteus?
>>
>> On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:58, L wrote:
>>
>> > Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of
>> > the cheap wall wart that came with it.
>> > Lucifer
>> >
>> > backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences
>> > between a
>> > >modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large
>> > transformer
>> > >type adapter.
>> > >
>> > >The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the
>> > voltage varies
>> > >with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at
>> > 300ma, it
>> > >probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The
>> > voltage
>> > >will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really
>> > needs more
>> > >than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large
>> > transformer
>> > >type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V
>> > with no
>> > >load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it.
>> > That
>> > >might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit
>> > inside the
>> > >Poly-800.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter,
>> > it is
>> > >probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in
>> > it, and it
>> > >will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so
>> > there is
>> > >no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have
>> > markings on
>> > >them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can
>> > usually
>> > >tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with
>> > nothing
>> > >plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old
>> > transformer type.
>> > >If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of
>> > some of the
>> > >power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Don Backshall
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > _____
>> > >
>> > >From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>> > [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
>> > >Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
>> > >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
>> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>> > >Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and
>> > question
>> > >about multi mods (Hawk)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
>> > >> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go
>> > above
>> > >> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
>> > >
>> > >You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
>> > >motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
>> > >you wire it across a 200A battery?
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-23 by Jason Adkins

Hi,

I have a Proteus 1000 the down version of yours but with only 2 slots and yeah they are good I actually prefer it to my superJV.
I think I know what you mean sort of a cross between a VFX and SQ80?
I hope your Sylvester doesn't mind being played because when I have tried to stretch his whiskers and tail across a fret board I get a swipe around the face..... ;)

On 23 Dec 2012, at 15:56, KurtF wrote:

FIZMO is not like Proteus at all. Proteus type are ROMplers and very good ones. I have a Proteus 2000 with additional ROM chips for more sounds. FIZMO is a transwave synthesizer that blends together different sections of base sound waves into new morphing combinations. It's sort of the difference between playing a recording of a violin and playing a violin. Except FIZMO isn't good for violins, while the Proteus is. If I'm explaining that clearly enough. Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808@...> wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> I have never used an Fizmo is it like a Emu Proteus?
>
> On 22 Dec 2012, at 22:58, L wrote:
>
> > Thats good to know. I had problems with my Ensoniq Fizmo because of
> > the cheap wall wart that came with it.
> > Lucifer
> >
> > backshall1 <backshall1@...> wrote:
> >
> > >Somehow, nobody seems to have pointed out the major differences
> > between a
> > >modern-day regulated switching supply and an old fashioned large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter.
> > >
> > >The old transformer type adapters are non-regulated, and the
> > voltage varies
> > >with the current that is being used. If it is rated for 9VDC at
> > 300ma, it
> > >probably measures 12-13 volts when nothing is plugged into it. The
> > voltage
> > >will drop as you draw more current, and if your equipment really
> > needs more
> > >than 300ma then the voltage will drop below 9 volts. A large
> > transformer
> > >type adapter that is rated for 1000ma might measure as high as 20V
> > with no
> > >load on it, and only drop to 15 volts with only a 300ma load on it.
> > That
> > >might put a bit too much stress on the 9v to 5v regulator circuit
> > inside the
> > >Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On the other hand, if you are using a newer switching-type adapter,
> > it is
> > >probably much smaller since it does not need a big transformer in
> > it, and it
> > >will put out a regulated 9V at any current level from 0-1000ma, so
> > there is
> > >no problem using one rated for 1000ma. A/C adapters rarely have
> > markings on
> > >them to show whether they are switching supplies or not. You can
> > usually
> > >tell from the size. If not, just check the voltage output with
> > nothing
> > >plugged into it. If it is 11 volts or higher, it is an old
> > transformer type.
> > >If it is above 15 volts, then you may be shortening the life of
> > some of the
> > >power transistors in the 5V regulator in the Poly-800.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Don Backshall
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On
> > >Behalf Of Gordon JC Pearce
> > >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 1:40 PM
> > >To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and
> > question
> > >about multi mods (Hawk)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 22/12/12 06:45, Jill Saphic wrote:
> > >
> > >> thats what the manual says to use, and the KORG website..
> > >> You will damage your little plastic Poly800 seriously if you go
> > above
> > >> 300MA, maybe not immediately, but it will be all about
> > >
> > >You know how your car battery can provide 200A or so to the starter
> > >motor? How come the little 200mA interior light doesn't blow up when
> > >you wire it across a 200A battery?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


Re: [korgpolyex] Re: New Power Adaptor for Poly 800 and question about multi mods (Hawk)

2012-12-23 by Jason Adkins

You know you can get those floppy replacements in black too?
I know of a cat that can play a 909 kick drum sample at 120bpm and meow the dance of the sugar plum fairy at the same time.

On 23 Dec 2012, at 16:28, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

On 23/12/12 15:56, KurtF wrote:

> Or maybe closer, Proteus is like playing a recording of a cat, while
> FIZMO is like playing a cat. Or does that make it more confusing?

"Naw."

http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/s50.jpg

Estelle the House Cat says "Get yourself one of these Roland S50s, silly
human!"

That's a dope 909 kick you've got there, wee cat.

--
Gordonjcp MM0YEQ