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battery on Poly-800

battery on Poly-800

2011-03-10 by pizdof

ok, so now i can sound stupid. i bought this new back in the early 80's, the batteries are corroded and i can't find the internial battery. is it on or under the mother board ? any help would be welcomed.

andy

Re: battery on Poly-800

2011-03-10 by microbugix

If you see no battery, you have the model with no battery.

See: http://analog.no/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=49

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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "pizdof" <e_flat4me@...> wrote:
>
> ok, so now i can sound stupid. i bought this new back in the early 80's, the batteries are corroded and i can't find the internial battery. is it on or under the mother board ? any help would be welcomed.
>
> andy
>

Re: battery on Poly-800

2011-03-10 by backshall1 (dsl)

Depending on the version, this Poly-800 may not have an internal battery at all. It would be on the CPU board between IC18 and IC19 if it has one. If it is really old, this will be just empty space. If it is a bit newer, it may have solder tabs where the battery would eventually go, but no battery. The last ones manufactured just before the Poly-800 II actually had a CR2032 lithium cell soldered in there. I this is one of the earlier two types, it would need some small modifications to the power circuit to safely install a CR2032
Don B.

Re: battery on Poly-800

2011-03-13 by microbugix

I now have opened my 800 too and spotted a version with solder pads, but no battery. Richard (www.analog.no) says, one should remove C87, C88 and C23. After examining the schematics at this point, I cannot imagine why this components should be removed, since the two condensors help avoiding spikes and losing memory when changing the battery and the diode protects the battery from being charged if the poly 800 is powered from the batteries in the compartment of the bottom. Or am I completely wrong there?

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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1 \(dsl\)" <backshall1@...> wrote:
>
> Depending on the version, this Poly-800 may not have an internal battery at
> all. It would be on the CPU board between IC18 and IC19 if it has one. If it
> is really old, this will be just empty space. If it is a bit newer, it may
> have solder tabs where the battery would eventually go, but no battery. The
> last ones manufactured just before the Poly-800 II actually had a CR2032
> lithium cell soldered in there. I this is one of the earlier two types, it
> would need some small modifications to the power circuit to safely install a
> CR2032
>
> Don B.
>

RE: [korgpolyex] Re: battery on Poly-800

2011-03-13 by backshall1 (dsl)

The capacitors can't hurt anything, although they are a bit redundant. C88 is actually useful to hold the patches during a quick battery change. You said C23, but I assume you meant D23. D23 is good, since it allows the memory to use the regular 5v supply instead of the lithium cell when the synth is turned on. Do not remove it. D15 is required to protect the battery from being charged from the regular 5V supply.
On the other hand, there are a couple of parts that do need to be removed: R1, D1.
R1 must be removed to prevent the voltage from the AC adapter from getting to the lithium cell.
D1 must be removed to prevent the voltage from the C-cells from getting to the lithium cell. A CR2032 lithium battery is not rechargable and could overheat and burn if R1, D1 are not removed.
Don B

From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of microbugix
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 4:22 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: battery on Poly-800

I now have opened my 800 too and spotted a version with solder pads, but no battery. Richard (www.analog.no) says, one should remove C87, C88 and C23. After examining the schematics at this point, I cannot imagine why this components should be removed, since the two condensors help avoiding spikes and losing memory when changing the battery and the diode protects the battery from being charged if the poly 800 is powered from the batteries in the compartment of the bottom. Or am I completely wrong there?

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1 \(dsl\)" <backshall1@...> wrote:

>
> Depending on
the version, this Poly-800 may not have an internal battery at
> all. It
would be on the CPU board between IC18 and IC19 if it has one. If it
> is
really old, this will be just empty space. If it is a bit newer, it may
>
have solder tabs where the battery would eventually go, but no battery. The
> last ones manufactured just before the Poly-800 II actually had a
CR2032
> lithium cell soldered in there. I this is one of the earlier two
types, it
> would need some small modifications to the power circuit to
safely install a
> CR2032
>
> Don
B.
>

AW: [korgpolyex] Re: battery on Poly-800

2011-03-14 by Dietmar Belloff

thanx for quick reply, Don.
For sure I meant D23, just a typo. So i'm glad I assumed to leave these components in place.

Many thanks for mentioning R1 and D1, I should have taken a look in the file "poly8batt" found in my folders which says the same. From the schematics I could not see that these 2 components are connected with the battery. I have to tell Ricard, since he did not mention these 2 on his website. If a lithium cell overheats and burns, it possibly will emit hydrofluoirc acid - this requires immediate medical attention on exposure!
bye,
Dietmar


Von: backshall1 (dsl) <backshall1@...>
An: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Gesendet: Sonntag, den 13. März 2011, 23:24:29 Uhr
Betreff: RE: [korgpolyex] Re: battery on Poly-800

The capacitors can't hurt anything, although they are a bit redundant. C88 is actually useful to hold the patches during a quick battery change. You said C23, but I assume you meant D23. D23 is good, since it allows the memory to use the regular 5v supply instead of the lithium cell when the synth is turned on. Do not remove it. D15 is required to protect the battery from being charged from the regular 5V supply.
On the other hand, there are a couple of parts that do need to be removed: R1, D1.
R1 must be removed to prevent the voltage from the AC adapter from getting to the lithium cell.
D1 must be removed to prevent the voltage from the C-cells from getting to the lithium cell. A CR2032 lithium battery is not rechargable and could overheat and burn if R1, D1 are not removed.
Don B

From: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com [mailto:korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of microbugix
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 4:22 PM
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: battery on Poly-800

I now have opened my 800 too and spotted a version with solder pads, but no battery. Richard (www.analog.no) says, one should remove C87, C88 and C23. After examining the schematics at this point, I cannot imagine why this components should be removed, since the two condensors help avoiding spikes and losing memory when changing the battery and the diode protects the battery from being charged if the poly 800 is powered from the batteries in the compartment of the bottom. Or am I completely wrong there?

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "backshall1 \(dsl\)" <backshall1@...> wrote:

>
> Depending on
the version, this Poly-800 may not have an internal battery at
> all. It
would be on the CPU board between IC18 and IC19 if it has one. If it
> is
really old, this will be just empty space. If it is a bit newer, it may
>
have solder tabs where the battery would eventually go, but no battery. The
> last ones manufactured just before the Poly-800 II actually had a
CR2032
> lithium cell soldered in there. I this is one of the earlier two
types, it
> would need some small modifications to the power circuit to
safely install a
> CR2032
>
> Don
B.
>