Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

Hi All,

I heard we needed to write something about Poly-800 :-), so here it goes -

yesterday in the evening I finished Hawk-800 kit installation to my
Poly-800. Everything went smoothly without any single problem. The
whole procedure took two evenings (about 4 hours in total).

Thanks, Mike for the great job on the upgrade kit!

I wasn't able to check all the new features yet, however I already
have a quick question about mono/portamento mode - I personally would
like to have more modes, like - slide on legato note on only, slide on
legato note on and off, always slide. What do you think, guys?

Mike, any plans to implement anything like this? Or maybe it's already
there, but I just wasn't able to find this yet :-)?

Best, Saulius

awesome!@#!@!@$

Your stuff or her stuff????

> i got married yesterday and have two days worth of celebrations to
> come then I have 2 weeks on holidays in which to play with my stuff
>
> hawkpoy800's here i come!$!@$!@#
>
>
> yeahhh
>
> marcus over

my stuff!@$!@$!@$

Congratulations! to you and your wife.

Yes, and now it's even more important that you don't let womenfolk get
to your tools.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Wilson <JB@...> wrote:
>
> my stuff!@$!@$!@$
>
> i still have my workroom off limit to womenfolk ;-)
>
>
>
> On 20/06/2008, at 12:29 AM, narfman96 wrote:
>
> > Your stuff or her stuff????
> >
> > > i got married yesterday and have two days worth of celebrations to
> > > come then I have 2 weeks on holidays in which to play with my stuff
> > >
> > > hawkpoy800's here i come!$!@$!@#
> > >
> > >
> > > yeahhh
> > >
> > > marcus over
> >
> >
> >
>

Congratulatons Saulius! That's great news!

I just got back from a seven day fishing vacation so I'm exhausted but...

The portamento mode can definitely do with some additional tweaks.

I'll digest your idea and look up the meaning of legato again and get
back to you.

Mike.


--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "saulius_pocevicius" <saulius@...>
wrote:

>
> Hi All,
>
> I heard we needed to write something about Poly-800 :-), so here it

goes -

>
> yesterday in the evening I finished Hawk-800 kit installation to my
> Poly-800. Everything went smoothly without any single problem. The
> whole procedure took two evenings (about 4 hours in total).
>
> Thanks, Mike for the great job on the upgrade kit!
>
> I wasn't able to check all the new features yet, however I already
> have a quick question about mono/portamento mode - I personally would
> like to have more modes, like - slide on legato note on only, slide on
> legato note on and off, always slide. What do you think, guys?
>
> Mike, any plans to implement anything like this? Or maybe it's already
> there, but I just wasn't able to find this yet :-)?
>
> Best, Saulius
>

> I'll look up the meaning of legato again and get back to you.

he means only actuate the portamento when midi notes overlap.

hey i have a suggestion: will you make the lfo sync to tempo? and
perhaps also throw in a parameter that divides the tempo? so for
instance you could switch from 1/4 note sync to 1/3 note to 1/2 note
with the change of a controller? this would be useful to me. otoh,
maybe thats too much to ask?

As far as level of difficulty goes, the portamento code was really
difficult. I am not inclined to do much more with it until I've done
many other features. And yes, setting LFO1 or LFO2 in sync with MIDI
time code or the on board sequencer is a feature that will definitely
be implemented.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@...> wrote:
>
> > I'll look up the meaning of legato again and get back to you.
>
> he means only actuate the portamento when midi notes overlap.
>
> hey i have a suggestion: will you make the lfo sync to tempo? and
> perhaps also throw in a parameter that divides the tempo? so for
> instance you could switch from 1/4 note sync to 1/3 note to 1/2 note
> with the change of a controller? this would be useful to me. otoh,
> maybe thats too much to ask?
>

nice! and maybe lfo restart/free run with note on, and perhaps an
initial phase parameter?

these are some rockin ideas, and youre making me glad i bought this kit.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@...>
wrote:

>
> As far as level of difficulty goes, the portamento code was really
> difficult. I am not inclined to do much more with it until I've done
> many other features. And yes, setting LFO1 or LFO2 in sync with MIDI
> time code or the on board sequencer is a feature that will definitely
> be implemented.
>
> Mike.
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@> wrote:
> >
> > > I'll look up the meaning of legato again and get back to you.
> >
> > he means only actuate the portamento when midi notes overlap.
> >
> > hey i have a suggestion: will you make the lfo sync to tempo? and
> > perhaps also throw in a parameter that divides the tempo? so for
> > instance you could switch from 1/4 note sync to 1/3 note to 1/2 note
> > with the change of a controller? this would be useful to me. otoh,
> > maybe thats too much to ask?
> >
>

Well, I hope you're glad with what it does already - :-(

LFO restart/free run already exists. Extended parameters 16 and 17
correspond to LFO1 and LFO2 free-running mode. 0=note on re-triggered,
1=free running.

The phasing is also something I want to do but that is going to be a
part of the LFO code rewrite. As it stands now, the original LFO won't
go slow enough for my tastes. I have already built two SLFO's using a
lookup table that has sine, square, triangle, saw and reverse saw. I
plan to rewrite the existing code to use those lookup tables instead
of the original calculated values. Once that is done, I should be able
to shoe horn the LFO code into the sequencer much easier as well as
may it run really slow and also give many different waveform options.

Just don't hold your breath waiting. The full software may take
another year to complete.

But please do tell me that you're having fun with the features as they
stand now???

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@...> wrote:
>
> nice! and maybe lfo restart/free run with note on, and perhaps an
> initial phase parameter?
>
> these are some rockin ideas, and youre making me glad i bought this kit.
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@>
> wrote:
> >
> > As far as level of difficulty goes, the portamento code was really
> > difficult. I am not inclined to do much more with it until I've done
> > many other features. And yes, setting LFO1 or LFO2 in sync with MIDI
> > time code or the on board sequencer is a feature that will definitely
> > be implemented.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll look up the meaning of legato again and get back to you.
> > >
> > > he means only actuate the portamento when midi notes overlap.
> > >
> > > hey i have a suggestion: will you make the lfo sync to tempo? and
> > > perhaps also throw in a parameter that divides the tempo? so for
> > > instance you could switch from 1/4 note sync to 1/3 note to 1/2 note
> > > with the change of a controller? this would be useful to me. otoh,
> > > maybe thats too much to ask?
> > >
> >
>

im sorry, i didnt mean to imply that i wasnt enjoying the features at
present. i am indeed! good work brother!

> Well, I hope you're glad with what it does already - :-(

Phew! That feels better. Warm and cozy now! :-)

Any highlights of what you're doing with it?

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@...> wrote:
>
> im sorry, i didnt mean to imply that i wasnt enjoying the features at
> present. i am indeed! good work brother!
>
> > Well, I hope you're glad with what it does already - :-(
>

john.boys,

I have almost finished making the first LFO run in sync with the
onboard sequencer. However, I've found a little quirk that I should
have worked out earlier until now. So I need to bounce some ideas off
of you if you don't mind.

The MIDI sequencer time code handler works by moving the sequencer
forward one event after 6 MIDI time codes are received (this is normal
MIDI time code behavior).

However, (and this makes sense from an engineering point) the onboard
sequencer progresses forward one event each time the onboard sequencer
clock cycles.

This means that we can intercept the MIDI time codes and trigger the
LFO to oscillate six times faster than the onboard sequencer will.

I've looked at the math of the LFO's to see if I could increase the
oscillator speed by an exact factor of six so that the onboard
sequencer could run the LFO's at the same rate as MIDI time code but
the math just isn't going to work out for us.

Does this matter to you? Will you more likely use the LFO sync'ed up
to MIDI or to the onboard sequencer? Should I focus on oscillating the
LFO's from MIDI time code or from the onboard sequencer or will you
use both?

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@...> wrote:
>
> nice! and maybe lfo restart/free run with note on, and perhaps an
> initial phase parameter?
>
> these are some rockin ideas, and youre making me glad i bought this kit.
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@>
> wrote:
> >
> > As far as level of difficulty goes, the portamento code was really
> > difficult. I am not inclined to do much more with it until I've done
> > many other features. And yes, setting LFO1 or LFO2 in sync with MIDI
> > time code or the on board sequencer is a feature that will definitely
> > be implemented.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll look up the meaning of legato again and get back to you.
> > >
> > > he means only actuate the portamento when midi notes overlap.
> > >
> > > hey i have a suggestion: will you make the lfo sync to tempo? and
> > > perhaps also throw in a parameter that divides the tempo? so for
> > > instance you could switch from 1/4 note sync to 1/3 note to 1/2 note
> > > with the change of a controller? this would be useful to me. otoh,
> > > maybe thats too much to ask?
> > >
> >
>

john.boys,

I take it all back. I was misreading the code. Indeed, both the
onboard sequencer clock and the MIDI time code operate with the same
clocking rules.

So the LFO's will oscillate at the same rates regardless of the sync
source.

But I do have another question. Do you just want LFO2 (VCF) to sync
with the sequencer? Or do you want LFO1 (DCO MG) to do so as well?

Mike.



--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@...>
wrote:

>
> john.boys,
>
> I have almost finished making the first LFO run in sync with the
> onboard sequencer. However, I've found a little quirk that I should
> have worked out earlier until now. So I need to bounce some ideas off
> of you if you don't mind.
>
> The MIDI sequencer time code handler works by moving the sequencer
> forward one event after 6 MIDI time codes are received (this is normal
> MIDI time code behavior).
>
> However, (and this makes sense from an engineering point) the onboard
> sequencer progresses forward one event each time the onboard sequencer
> clock cycles.
>
> This means that we can intercept the MIDI time codes and trigger the
> LFO to oscillate six times faster than the onboard sequencer will.
>
> I've looked at the math of the LFO's to see if I could increase the
> oscillator speed by an exact factor of six so that the onboard
> sequencer could run the LFO's at the same rate as MIDI time code but
> the math just isn't going to work out for us.
>
> Does this matter to you? Will you more likely use the LFO sync'ed up
> to MIDI or to the onboard sequencer? Should I focus on oscillating the
> LFO's from MIDI time code or from the onboard sequencer or will you
> use both?
>
> Mike.
>
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@> wrote:
> >
> > nice! and maybe lfo restart/free run with note on, and perhaps an
> > initial phase parameter?
> >
> > these are some rockin ideas, and youre making me glad i bought

this kit.

> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > As far as level of difficulty goes, the portamento code was really
> > > difficult. I am not inclined to do much more with it until I've done
> > > many other features. And yes, setting LFO1 or LFO2 in sync with MIDI
> > > time code or the on board sequencer is a feature that will

definitely

> > > be implemented.
> > >
> > > Mike.
> > >
> > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bys_jhn" <john.boys@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'll look up the meaning of legato again and get back to you.
> > > >
> > > > he means only actuate the portamento when midi notes overlap.
> > > >
> > > > hey i have a suggestion: will you make the lfo sync to tempo?

and

> > > > perhaps also throw in a parameter that divides the tempo? so for
> > > > instance you could switch from 1/4 note sync to 1/3 note to

1/2 note

> > > > with the change of a controller? this would be useful to me.

otoh,

> > > > maybe thats too much to ask?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:

> Does this matter to you? Will you more likely use the LFO sync'ed up to
> MIDI or to the onboard sequencer? Should I focus on oscillating the
> LFO's from MIDI time code or from the onboard sequencer or will you use
> both?

=================

doesn't matter to me. does the EX800 even have a sequencer...? syncing to
MIDI would be nice.


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Yes, the EX800 has the exact same sequencer.

The code now includes both LFO1 and LFO2 MIDI and onboard sequencer
clocking.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:
>
> > Does this matter to you? Will you more likely use the LFO sync'ed
up to
> > MIDI or to the onboard sequencer? Should I focus on oscillating the
> > LFO's from MIDI time code or from the onboard sequencer or will
you use
> > both?
> =================
>
> doesn't matter to me. does the EX800 even have a sequencer...?
syncing to
> MIDI would be nice.
>
>
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> "But that one 16 ounce cut of prime rib is equal to a
> thousand gallons of fresh water, a few acres of grass,
> a few fish, a quarter acre of corn etc. What's the
> point of taking a shorter shower to conserve water as
> Greenpeace is preaching if you can sit down and
> consume a 1000 gallons of water at a single meal? And
> that single cut of meat would have cost as much in
> vegetable resources equivalent to what could be fed to
> an entire African village for a week."
> -- Capt Paul Watson, A Very Inconvenient Truth
>