Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

So with the ten boards arriving, I can now ship out the rest of the
already ordered six kits and can take orders for another four before I
order another ten boards.

So if anyone is interested, four more kits can be shipped out this
week, if you want to get your Poly upgraded.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> So with the ten boards arriving, I can now ship out the rest of the
> already ordered six kits and can take orders for another four before I
> order another ten boards.
> 
> So if anyone is interested, four more kits can be shipped out this
> week, if you want to get your Poly upgraded.

Hey Mike...sorry if this is a repeat question, but how much are the kits, and how do we go 
about ordering them?

Thanks,
Phoebe/october71

Hi Phoebe,

You can go to:
http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/buythekit.html

and click on the Buy Now button for the kit that you want. Choose P
for Poly 800 and EX for the EX800. Don't forget to set the shipping to
US domestic or International.

The kit is $99 plus shipping which is 10 bucks for US and 25 for
International.

Payment is via PayPal and they accept credit cards too.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Phoebe" <october71@...> wrote:
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@>
wrote:
> >
> > So with the ten boards arriving, I can now ship out the rest of the
> > already ordered six kits and can take orders for another four before I
> > order another ten boards.
> > 
> > So if anyone is interested, four more kits can be shipped out this
> > week, if you want to get your Poly upgraded.
> 
> Hey Mike...sorry if this is a repeat question, but how much are the
kits, and how do we go 

> about ordering them?
> 
> Thanks,
> Phoebe/october71
>

Thanks, Mike. Will there be another batch? I'm not sure if I can afford to spend the money at 
the moment, but if there won't be any more, I'll order it.

Phoebe

I think there should be another batch but I can't guarantee it.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Phoebe" <october71@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Mike. Will there be another batch? I'm not sure if I can
afford to spend the money at 

> the moment, but if there won't be any more, I'll order it.
> 
> Phoebe
>

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:

> I think there should be another batch but I can't guarantee it.
=============

i haven't ordered yet, as i'm waiting for the second half of your mod to 
be available. what's the status of that? would you recommend ordering now?


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Hi Atom,

I've been looking at the youtube videos of the Atom mod's and I don't
think my second kit is going to match the performance of a pot in real
time. So my suggestion is to order the Hawk-800 kit for all of the new
non Atom mod's. And we'll go from there.

But it is up to you of course. :-)

Mike.

 

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:
> 
> > I think there should be another batch but I can't guarantee it.
> =============
> 
> i haven't ordered yet, as i'm waiting for the second half of your
mod to 
> be available. what's the status of that? would you recommend
ordering now?

> 
> 
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>  	 the great ones to public office."
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>

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:

> I've been looking at the youtube videos of the Atom mod's and I don't 
> think my second kit is going to match the performance of a pot in real 
> time. So my suggestion is to order the Hawk-800 kit for all of the new 
> non Atom mod's. And we'll go from there.
===============

:(

i was thinking of converting my EX800 into a 1U rack, and not having any 
knobs on it. i may still build it into a new case, but without midi 
control over the other mods i'll probably leave it as a table-top module.

i guess i'll put in my order within the next couple of weeks...


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 	 consequence.... more than one [of my colleagues] hinted that
 	 they had doubts about the official version; but none of them
 	 saw anything out of the ordinary in the fact that, from now
 	 on, one's telephone would be tapped, one's letters opened,
 	 and one's desk might be broken into."
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Don't get me wrong, I am definitely going to TRY to duplicate your
mod's with digital pots. I just don't know how long it's going to take
for me to get to that. What if I fail at it anyway? There has got to
be at least some zipper affect that the pots will never have.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, korgpolyex800 wrote:
> 
> > I've been looking at the youtube videos of the Atom mod's and I don't 
> > think my second kit is going to match the performance of a pot in
real 
> > time. So my suggestion is to order the Hawk-800 kit for all of the
new 
> > non Atom mod's. And we'll go from there.
> ===============
> 
> :(
> 
> i was thinking of converting my EX800 into a 1U rack, and not having
any 
> knobs on it. i may still build it into a new case, but without midi 
> control over the other mods i'll probably leave it as a table-top
module.

> 
> i guess i'll put in my order within the next couple of weeks...
> 
> 
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>  	"With sheepish submissiveness the German people accepted that,
>  	 as a result of the [Reichstag] fire, each one of them lost
>  	 what little personal freedom and dignity was guaranteed by
>  	 the constitution; as though it followed as a necessary
>  	 consequence.... more than one [of my colleagues] hinted that
>  	 they had doubts about the official version; but none of them
>  	 saw anything out of the ordinary in the fact that, from now
>  	 on, one's telephone would be tapped, one's letters opened,
>  	 and one's desk might be broken into."
>  		-- Sebastian Haffner, Defying Hitler: A Memoir
>

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, patrioticduo wrote:

> Don't get me wrong, I am definitely going to TRY to duplicate your mod's 
> with digital pots. I just don't know how long it's going to take for me 
> to get to that. What if I fail at it anyway? There has got to be at 
> least some zipper affect that the pots will never have.
===================

for me, it depends on how much zipper there would be. for someone who 
wants *real* analog, even 14-bits isn't enough resolution to make them 
happy, in which case they shouldn't bother with a poly-800. for me, and 
considering that this is a hybrid synth from the 80's, i think 7 bits 
would be reasonable. at self oscillation, yeah, it's gonna step; but for 
me the 800 is for making techno noises and running them through effects so 
i don't mind. if i was trying to emulate a guitar or piano it would be a 
problem, but IMHO that's not what the 800 is for.

don't forget that this synth was born with most parameters having a 
resolution of 5-6 bits and a pair of up/down buttons to adjust them. with 
that in mind, i'd happily part with $50 to add a second board to control 
some hardware mods with 7 bit resolution. we can always add a switch to 
select between 7 bit control via digital pots or *analog* control with 
~real~ pots. problem solved.

seriously, a little delay can hide a lot of zipper.

another possible solution is to have the option (per patch, ideally) to 
either have the digital pots track the changes in real time, or have them 
update only when new notes are played. considering the block diagram of 
the poly800 (all voices sharing a common filter) this wouldn't hide the 
zipper as much as it would on other synths, but for some sounds and 
playing styles it would do the trick.

OTOH, it wouldn't be the end of the world if i had to tweak some knobs 
that aren't on my PC-1600x, and just having MIDI control over the standard 
parameters (not to mention new parameters) breathes new life into this old 
synth.


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--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> i was thinking of converting my EX800 into a 1U rack, and not having
any 
> knobs on it. i may still build it into a new case, but without midi 
> control over the other mods i'll probably leave it as a table-top
module.
>

Speaking of which, is it possible to convert a Poly 800 MkII to a
table-top unit w/o keyboard (basically an EX800)?  I'm wondering if I
can just unplug the keyboard...?

Thanks,
-Jim G

Atom,

you hit the punch line right at the end. My initial kit is going to
provide MIDI control over everything that is in the Poly 800 right
now. As of today, you've got MIDI CC's for resonance and filter cutoff
and MG speed on the first LFO. All of the rest of the CC's I expect to
have implemented within the next three to six months. Anyone that buys
the kit today gets free software upgrades. So as soon as I implement
new features, everyone with the kit gets those new features.

The second kit will then get us MIDI and patch control over 12/24db
filter, FM mod and Moog Slayer (in some form or another) plus others.
And it won't cost an arm and a leg.

So for now, I'll go back to the primary kit and will tinker with the
second kit for a while but no commitment yet. I really have to get
those MIDI CC's done for ALL parameters.

Cheers,

Mike 

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, patrioticduo wrote:
> 
> > Don't get me wrong, I am definitely going to TRY to duplicate your
mod's 
> > with digital pots. I just don't know how long it's going to take
for me 
> > to get to that. What if I fail at it anyway? There has got to be at 
> > least some zipper affect that the pots will never have.
> ===================
> 
> for me, it depends on how much zipper there would be. for someone who 
> wants *real* analog, even 14-bits isn't enough resolution to make them 
> happy, in which case they shouldn't bother with a poly-800. for me, and 
> considering that this is a hybrid synth from the 80's, i think 7 bits 
> would be reasonable. at self oscillation, yeah, it's gonna step; but
for 
> me the 800 is for making techno noises and running them through
effects so 
> i don't mind. if i was trying to emulate a guitar or piano it would
be a 
> problem, but IMHO that's not what the 800 is for.
> 
> don't forget that this synth was born with most parameters having a 
> resolution of 5-6 bits and a pair of up/down buttons to adjust them.
with 
> that in mind, i'd happily part with $50 to add a second board to
control 
> some hardware mods with 7 bit resolution. we can always add a switch to 
> select between 7 bit control via digital pots or *analog* control with 
> ~real~ pots. problem solved.
> 
> seriously, a little delay can hide a lot of zipper.
> 
> another possible solution is to have the option (per patch, ideally) to 
> either have the digital pots track the changes in real time, or have
them 
> update only when new notes are played. considering the block diagram of 
> the poly800 (all voices sharing a common filter) this wouldn't hide the 
> zipper as much as it would on other synths, but for some sounds and 
> playing styles it would do the trick.
> 
> OTOH, it wouldn't be the end of the world if i had to tweak some knobs 
> that aren't on my PC-1600x, and just having MIDI control over the
standard 
> parameters (not to mention new parameters) breathes new life into
this old 
> synth.
> 
> 
> -- 
>          ...atom
> 
>   ________________________
>   http://atom.smasher.org/
>   762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
>   -------------------------------------------------
> 
>  	"That's George Washington, the first President, of course. The
>           interesting thing about him is that I read three -- three or
>           four books about him last year. Isn't that interesting?"
>                  -- George "dubya" Bush, 5 May 2006
>                 
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/20060507-2.html
>