Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

I surprised myself today when I added code to determine the joystick
position. I didn't think I would get it working so fast but I have
successfully added the code that reliably monitors the joystick position.

So now we start adding controllers, both the original and NEW ONES!

Mike.

great! could you make it somehow that it would set parameter value?
like when holding the bank button or something like that...

jure

On Jan 6, 2008 11:57 PM, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
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> I surprised myself today when I added code to determine the joystick
>  position. I didn't think I would get it working so fast but I have
>  successfully added the code that reliably monitors the joystick position.
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>  So now we start adding controllers, both the original and NEW ONES!
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>  Mike.
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Yes, I think this is possible. I was thinking that I would have the
bank hold button flash when in joystick mode. You press the bank hold
once to go into normal bank hold and when you press it a second time
it starts to flash and then moving the joystick right would slowly
increase the parameter. The further you push to right, the faster the
parameter would increase. The same idea pushing to the left. The
further you push to the left, the faster the parameter goes down.
Press bank hold again and bank hold turns off.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@...> wrote:
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> great! could you make it somehow that it would set parameter value?
> like when holding the bank button or something like that...
> 
> jure
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> On Jan 6, 2008 11:57 PM, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
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> > I surprised myself today when I added code to determine the joystick
> >  position. I didn't think I would get it working so fast but I have
> >  successfully added the code that reliably monitors the joystick
position.

> >
> >  So now we start adding controllers, both the original and NEW ONES!
> >
> >  Mike.
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>

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
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> I surprised myself today when I added code to determine the joystick
> position. I didn't think I would get it working so fast but I have
> successfully added the code that reliably monitors the joystick position.
> 
> So now we start adding controllers, both the original and NEW ONES!

*bows down before the Poly800 GOD!!!*

Seriously Mike, you're amazing. You're going to turn my p800 from a pseudo dust-collector 
to an active part of my *ahem* "studio"

Thanks so much for your efforts!

Phoebe

i don't know about others, but i would actually prefer to have
joystick set ABSOLUTE parameter value instead of relative (joystick
extreme left = 0, extreme right = max value) ... like... if you are
holding down the bank button, then the joystick sets the absolute
param value. wouldn't that be the quickest way to set a value? at
least approximate value, since the joystick resolution probably isn't
that great.

cheers,
jure

On Jan 7, 2008 3:11 PM, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
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> Yes, I think this is possible. I was thinking that I would have the
>  bank hold button flash when in joystick mode. You press the bank hold
>  once to go into normal bank hold and when you press it a second time
>  it starts to flash and then moving the joystick right would slowly
>  increase the parameter. The further you push to right, the faster the
>  parameter would increase. The same idea pushing to the left. The
>  further you push to the left, the faster the parameter goes down.
>  Press bank hold again and bank hold turns off.
>
>
>  --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > great! could you make it somehow that it would set parameter value?
>  > like when holding the bank button or something like that...
>  >
>  > jure
>  >
>  > On Jan 6, 2008 11:57 PM, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>  > >
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>  > > I surprised myself today when I added code to determine the joystick
>  > > position. I didn't think I would get it working so fast but I have
>  > > successfully added the code that reliably monitors the joystick
>  position.
>  > >
>  > > So now we start adding controllers, both the original and NEW ONES!
>  > >
>  > > Mike.
>  > >
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OK brainstorming a little here,

The X and Y range is only 6 bits (64) so that is the reason why I am
opting to use a push up, down configuration.

How about this?

Both X and Y will be able to be assigned to almost any MIDI
controller. And they will also be able to be assigned to program
change, parameter select and parameter value.

There will be two options in that mode. The first mode will allow
program change to be assigned to X or Y and any other MIDI controller
to the other axis. When you press the program/parameter button and go
into parameter edit mode the program change joystick axis will switch
to changing the selected parameter. Pressing bank hold will do what it
normally does (by holding the keypad to the least significant digit)
but will also change the joystick axis to change the actual parameter
value (up/down). So you would use the one axis to do program, selected
parameter and parameter value changes.

The second mode will assign one of the axis to program selection and
the other axis to a MIDI controller. But when you press the
program/parameter button the program axis becomes the parameter
selection axis and the other axis affects the parameter value.

So you can use say the X axis to scroll through the parameters and use
the Y axis to modify the actual value of the parameter.

I am going to do assignable MIDI controllers first of all since they
are going to be much easier to implement than the adjustment of
program/parameters and parameter values. I need to look at the
parameter editing code to see if this is even feasible.

Mike.

 --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@...> wrote:
>
> i don't know about others, but i would actually prefer to have
> joystick set ABSOLUTE parameter value instead of relative (joystick
> extreme left = 0, extreme right = max value) ... like... if you are
> holding down the bank button, then the joystick sets the absolute
> param value. wouldn't that be the quickest way to set a value? at
> least approximate value, since the joystick resolution probably isn't
> that great.
> 
> cheers,
> jure
> 
> On Jan 7, 2008 3:11 PM, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I think this is possible. I was thinking that I would have the
> >  bank hold button flash when in joystick mode. You press the bank hold
> >  once to go into normal bank hold and when you press it a second time
> >  it starts to flash and then moving the joystick right would slowly
> >  increase the parameter. The further you push to right, the faster the
> >  parameter would increase. The same idea pushing to the left. The
> >  further you push to the left, the faster the parameter goes down.
> >  Press bank hold again and bank hold turns off.
> >
> >
> >  --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > great! could you make it somehow that it would set parameter value?
> >  > like when holding the bank button or something like that...
> >  >
> >  > jure
> >  >
> >  > On Jan 6, 2008 11:57 PM, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > I surprised myself today when I added code to determine the
joystick
> >  > > position. I didn't think I would get it working so fast but I
have
> >  > > successfully added the code that reliably monitors the joystick
> >  position.
> >  > >
> >  > > So now we start adding controllers, both the original and NEW
ONES!

> >  > >
> >  > > Mike.
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  >
> >
> >
>

Yes, I need to look at the feasibility of doing this, but that is the
plan. The further you push to left or right, up or down, the faster
the program, parameters and parameter values would change.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "David Mochen" <davidmochen@...> wrote:
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> It be GREAT if in EDIT mode, moving the joystick along the X axis
would allow to scroll thru the parameters, and moving it along the Y
axis would let us increase/decrease the values... feasible? like, one
push to either end of the axis would equal to one step (so as to be
able to define values on a one-by-one increment/decrement basis), and
then, holding the joystick in position for a second or so would let us
have values/parameters increase/decrease more or less rapidly?
> 
> dave
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>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: jure zitnik 
>   To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:16 AM
>   Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] joystick progress
> 
> 
>   great! could you make it somehow that it would set parameter value?
>   like when holding the bank button or something like that...
> 
>   jure
> 
>   On Jan 6, 2008 11:57 PM, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>   >
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>   > I surprised myself today when I added code to determine the joystick
>   > position. I didn't think I would get it working so fast but I have
>   > successfully added the code that reliably monitors the joystick
position.

>   >
>   > So now we start adding controllers, both the original and NEW ONES!
>   >
>   > Mike.
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>   >
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no joystick on the EX-800... but i've got a PC1600x... i'd be happy if i 
can set to sliders on that to do the joystick-edit tricks ;)


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That's the plan.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
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> no joystick on the EX-800... but i've got a PC1600x... i'd be happy
if i 

> can set to sliders on that to do the joystick-edit tricks ;)
> 
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>  	 Africa are vastly under-polluted."
>  		-- Lawrence Summers,
>  		chief economist of the World Bank,
>  		explaining why we should export toxic wastes
>  		to Third World countries
>