Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

Hi Poly Fans,

For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod project.

Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod that
has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K of RAM.
This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that the
Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to make
huge progress with some exciting new features that should give the old
synth some new character and flexibility.

Check out my blog page at
http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/

And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed the
global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available global
parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches are
edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global" mode. Over
the next week or two I will actually connect those global parameters
to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended playing
range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a single
patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade mode
(your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch changes
on the master can be automatically sent to the slave - something I
call "sync mode").

Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the joystick
code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try to
work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the Poly
800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've been
working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and joystick
with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.

Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take more
than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will handle the
new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit that you
can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions together
and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken out of
the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a mod
kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.

Mike.

Excellent!

Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to Spanish translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize the kit/manual/website into Spanish.

Best!

David

korgpolyex800 wrote:

Hi Poly Fans,

For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod project.

Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod that
has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K of RAM.
This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that the
Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to make
huge progress with some exciting new features that should give the old
synth some new character and flexibility.

Check out my blog page at
http://patrioticduo .tripod.com/ korgpoly800ex800 mkiii/

And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed the
global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available global
parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches are
edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global" mode. Over
the next week or two I will actually connect those global parameters
to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended playing
range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a single
patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade mode
(your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch changes
on the master can be automatically sent to the slave - something I
call "sync mode").

Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the joystick
code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try to
work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the Poly
800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've been
working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and joystick
with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.

Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take more
than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will handle the
new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit that you
can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions together
and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken out of
the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a mod
kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.

Mike.

Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN Travel.

hey!

i just got a totally awesome idea :D

WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any) parameter value with a joystick! i've been meaning
to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing of the patches (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's already a joystick, and since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?) i'm sure something like that could be implemented... for instance, you could press a button combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value absolutely in real time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or switchable. or just when holding down a button, so you could then release a button, release the joystick and then press the button again... you know what i mean? it would be SUPER-useful!

umm... yeah :D

jure

On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@...> wrote:

Excellent!

Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to Spanish translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize the kit/manual/website into Spanish.

Best!

David

korgpolyex800 wrote:

Hi Poly Fans,

For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod project.

Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod that
has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K of RAM.
This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that the
Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to make
huge progress with some exciting new features that should give the old
synth some new character and flexibility.

Check out my blog page at
http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/

And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed the
global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available global
parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches are
edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global" mode. Over
the next week or two I will actually connect those global parameters
to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended playing
range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a single
patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade mode
(your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch changes
on the master can be automatically sent to the slave - something I
call "sync mode").

Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the joystick
code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try to
work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the Poly
800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've been
working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and joystick
with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.

Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take more
than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will handle the
new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit that you
can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions together
and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken out of
the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a mod
kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.

Mike.

Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN Travel.

Hi Jure,

Yes, I have been turning that idea over in my head for a while now and
it looks like you are in the same plane of thought too.

There could be two global parameters that determine which parameter
number the X axis controls and which parameter number the Y axis
controls. Also, the joystick will have local control on off and MIDI
controller send too. So both the X and Y axis will be able to be used
to send controller messages.

The challenge will be to work out the best way to handle the zero
positioning. And it drives me crazy that the joystick sends controller
messages constantly. That will have to be fixed too.

All of it will be done!

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@...> wrote:
>
> hey!
>
> i just got a totally awesome idea :D
>
> WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any) parameter value
> with a joystick! i've been meaning
> to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing of the patches
> (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's already a
joystick, and
> since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?) i'm sure
something
> like that could be implemented... for instance, you could press a button
> combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value absolutely
in real
> time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or
switchable. or
> just when holding down a button, so you could then release a button,
release
> the joystick and then press the button again... you know what i mean? it
> would be SUPER-useful!
>
> umm... yeah :D
>
> jure
>
> On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Excellent!
> >
> > Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to Spanish
> > translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize the
> > kit/manual/website into Spanish.
> >
> > Best!
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > korgpolyex800 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Poly Fans,
> >
> > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod project.
> >
> > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod that
> > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K of RAM.
> > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that the
> > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to make
> > huge progress with some exciting new features that should give the old
> > synth some new character and flexibility.
> >
> > Check out my blog page at
> > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> >
> > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed the
> > global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available global
> > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches are
> > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global" mode. Over
> > the next week or two I will actually connect those global parameters
> > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended playing
> > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a single
> > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade mode
> > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch changes
> > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave - something I
> > call "sync mode").
> >
> > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the joystick
> > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try to
> > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the Poly
> > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've been
> > working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and joystick
> > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
> >
> > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take more
> > than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will handle the
> > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit that you
> > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions together
> > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken out of
> > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a mod
> > kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN
Travel.<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2755??PS=47575>
> >
> >
> >
>

Jure,

I forgot to mention that I've been looking at rotary encoders for the
EX800 to go where the tune pot is. For the Poly 800 itself, I think
we're going to have to drill a hole for it. But once in place, the
encoder would be able to drive the parameter values and patch numbers
too and also be used as a MIDI controller sender.

But the encoder I'm looking at is about 20 bucks which is quite a bit
of money to add to a kit that is already likely to be about a hundred
bucks.

I also intend to add new code when the Poly is in patch selection mode
(not parameter edit mode) so that you can up and down the selected
patch with the up and down keys. It drives me crazy that you have to
enter the patch number with two hits on the keypad when it would be of
some use to be able to just go up and down by one.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@...> wrote:
>
> hey!
>
> i just got a totally awesome idea :D
>
> WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any) parameter value
> with a joystick! i've been meaning
> to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing of the patches
> (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's already a
joystick, and
> since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?) i'm sure
something
> like that could be implemented... for instance, you could press a button
> combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value absolutely
in real
> time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or
switchable. or
> just when holding down a button, so you could then release a button,
release
> the joystick and then press the button again... you know what i mean? it
> would be SUPER-useful!
>
> umm... yeah :D
>
> jure
>
> On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Excellent!
> >
> > Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to Spanish
> > translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize the
> > kit/manual/website into Spanish.
> >
> > Best!
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > korgpolyex800 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Poly Fans,
> >
> > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod project.
> >
> > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod that
> > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K of RAM.
> > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that the
> > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to make
> > huge progress with some exciting new features that should give the old
> > synth some new character and flexibility.
> >
> > Check out my blog page at
> > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> >
> > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed the
> > global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available global
> > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches are
> > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global" mode. Over
> > the next week or two I will actually connect those global parameters
> > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended playing
> > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a single
> > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade mode
> > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch changes
> > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave - something I
> > call "sync mode").
> >
> > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the joystick
> > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try to
> > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the Poly
> > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've been
> > working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and joystick
> > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
> >
> > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take more
> > than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will handle the
> > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit that you
> > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions together
> > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken out of
> > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a mod
> > kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on MSN
Travel.<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2755??PS=47575>
> >
> >
> >
>

Thanks for the offer to translate the manual and instructions.

I will definitely ask for your help on that when we get to that stage
of the kit.

Thanks again,

Mike.

Hi,

I tried to deploy rotary encoder, but only instead of Down/Up
buttons. I simply connected it "parallely" with buttons. But I was
able to get only 20-positions encoder, so you can imagine, what a
turning is necessary for 00-99 cutoff for example...) . In my wiring
I found my solution is not very reliable, values sometimes changed
itselves, sometimes it behaved like all time pressed "Down" button...
May this is THE Randomization what I asked for -)

Jusuf

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800"
<korgpolyex800@...> wrote:

>
> Jure,
>
> I forgot to mention that I've been looking at rotary encoders for

the

> EX800 to go where the tune pot is. For the Poly 800 itself, I think
> we're going to have to drill a hole for it. But once in place, the
> encoder would be able to drive the parameter values and patch

numbers

> too and also be used as a MIDI controller sender.
>
> But the encoder I'm looking at is about 20 bucks which is quite a

bit

> of money to add to a kit that is already likely to be about a

hundred

> bucks.
>
> I also intend to add new code when the Poly is in patch selection

mode

> (not parameter edit mode) so that you can up and down the selected
> patch with the up and down keys. It drives me crazy that you have to
> enter the patch number with two hits on the keypad when it would be

of

> some use to be able to just go up and down by one.
>
> Mike.
>
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@> wrote:
> >
> > hey!
> >
> > i just got a totally awesome idea :D
> >
> > WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any)

parameter value

> > with a joystick! i've been meaning
> > to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing of the

patches

> > (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's already a
> joystick, and
> > since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?) i'm sure
> something
> > like that could be implemented... for instance, you could press a

button

> > combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value absolutely
> in real
> > time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or
> switchable. or
> > just when holding down a button, so you could then release a

button,

> release
> > the joystick and then press the button again... you know what i

mean? it

> > would be SUPER-useful!
> >
> > umm... yeah :D
> >
> > jure
> >
> > On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Excellent!
> > >
> > > Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to

Spanish

> > > translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize

the

> > > kit/manual/website into Spanish.
> > >
> > > Best!
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > korgpolyex800 wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Poly Fans,
> > >
> > > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod

project.

> > >
> > > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod

that

> > > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K

of RAM.

> > > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that

the

> > > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to

make

> > > huge progress with some exciting new features that should give

the old

> > > synth some new character and flexibility.
> > >
> > > Check out my blog page at
> > > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> > >
> > > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed

the

> > > global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available

global

> > > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches

are

> > > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global"

mode. Over

> > > the next week or two I will actually connect those global

parameters

> > > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended

playing

> > > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a

single

> > > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade

mode

> > > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch

changes

> > > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave -

something I

> > > call "sync mode").
> > >
> > > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the

joystick

> > > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try

to

> > > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the

Poly

> > > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've

been

> > > working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> > > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and

joystick

> > > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
> > >
> > > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take

more

> > > than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> > > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will

handle the

> > > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit

that you

> > > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions

together

> > > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken

out of

> > > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a

mod

> > > kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
> > >
> > > Mike.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > > Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on

MSN

> Travel.<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2755??PS=47575>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Hi Jusuf,

I have to ask, which encoder did you employ, and did you read the data
sheet? I ask because rotary "encoders" output a coded pattern meant to be
read by a microcontroller, generally something like on-off-off-on on pin 1
and off-off-on-on on pin 2. etc. The poly 800 up/down buttons as I read
the schematic are simple switches, so depending on how you wired in the
encoder this could produce highly erratic results :*)

Tim

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, jusufzemplin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried to deploy rotary encoder, but only instead of Down/Up
> buttons. I simply connected it "parallely" with buttons. But I was
> able to get only 20-positions encoder, so you can imagine, what a
> turning is necessary for 00-99 cutoff for example...) . In my wiring
> I found my solution is not very reliable, values sometimes changed
> itselves, sometimes it behaved like all time pressed "Down" button...
> May this is THE Randomization what I asked for -)
>
> Jusuf
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800"
> <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
> >
> > Jure,
> >
> > I forgot to mention that I've been looking at rotary encoders for
> the
> > EX800 to go where the tune pot is. For the Poly 800 itself, I think
> > we're going to have to drill a hole for it. But once in place, the
> > encoder would be able to drive the parameter values and patch
> numbers
> > too and also be used as a MIDI controller sender.
> >
> > But the encoder I'm looking at is about 20 bucks which is quite a
> bit
> > of money to add to a kit that is already likely to be about a
> hundred
> > bucks.
> >
> > I also intend to add new code when the Poly is in patch selection
> mode
> > (not parameter edit mode) so that you can up and down the selected
> > patch with the up and down keys. It drives me crazy that you have to
> > enter the patch number with two hits on the keypad when it would be
> of
> > some use to be able to just go up and down by one.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hey!
> > >
> > > i just got a totally awesome idea :D
> > >
> > > WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any)
> parameter value
> > > with a joystick! i've been meaning
> > > to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing of the
> patches
> > > (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's already a
> > joystick, and
> > > since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?) i'm sure
> > something
> > > like that could be implemented... for instance, you could press a
> button
> > > combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value absolutely
> > in real
> > > time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or
> > switchable. or
> > > just when holding down a button, so you could then release a
> button,
> > release
> > > the joystick and then press the button again... you know what i
> mean? it
> > > would be SUPER-useful!
> > >
> > > umm... yeah :D
> > >
> > > jure
> > >
> > > On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Excellent!
> > > >
> > > > Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to
> Spanish
> > > > translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize
> the
> > > > kit/manual/website into Spanish.
> > > >
> > > > Best!
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > korgpolyex800 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Poly Fans,
> > > >
> > > > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod
> project.
> > > >
> > > > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod
> that
> > > > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K
> of RAM.
> > > > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that
> the
> > > > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to
> make
> > > > huge progress with some exciting new features that should give
> the old
> > > > synth some new character and flexibility.
> > > >
> > > > Check out my blog page at
> > > > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> > > >
> > > > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed
> the
> > > > global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available
> global
> > > > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches
> are
> > > > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global"
> mode. Over
> > > > the next week or two I will actually connect those global
> parameters
> > > > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended
> playing
> > > > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a
> single
> > > > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade
> mode
> > > > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch
> changes
> > > > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave -
> something I
> > > > call "sync mode").
> > > >
> > > > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the
> joystick
> > > > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try
> to
> > > > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the
> Poly
> > > > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've
> been
> > > > working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> > > > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and
> joystick
> > > > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
> > > >
> > > > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take
> more
> > > > than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> > > > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will
> handle the
> > > > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit
> that you
> > > > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions
> together
> > > > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken
> out of
> > > > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a
> mod
> > > > kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
> > > >
> > > > Mike.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on
> MSN
> > Travel.<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2755??PS=47575>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

i had a schematic of a simple circuit, no microcontroller needed, don't remember how it works. but it's supposed to work and it's like 1 IC and a resistor. will check it out, maybe even throw it together and test it, i intended to anyway, just forgot about it :D

jure

On 8/7/07, Tim Bieniosek <tab27@...> wrote:

Hi Jusuf,

I have to ask, which encoder did you employ, and did you read the data
sheet? I ask because rotary "encoders" output a coded pattern meant to be
read by a microcontroller, generally something like on-off-off-on on pin 1
and off-off-on-on on pin 2. etc. The poly 800 up/down buttons as I read
the schematic are simple switches, so depending on how you wired in the
encoder this could produce highly erratic results :*)

Tim

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, jusufzemplin wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I tried to deploy rotary encoder, but only instead of Down/Up
> buttons. I simply connected it "parallely" with buttons. But I was
> able to get only 20-positions encoder, so you can imagine, what a
> turning is necessary for 00-99 cutoff for example...) . In my wiring
> I found my solution is not very reliable, values sometimes changed
> itselves, sometimes it behaved like all time pressed "Down" button...
> May this is THE Randomization what I asked for -)
>
> Jusuf
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800"
> <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
> >
> > Jure,
> >
> > I forgot to mention that I've been looking at rotary encoders for
> the
> > EX800 to go where the tune pot is. For the Poly 800 itself, I think
> > we're going to have to drill a hole for it. But once in place, the
> > encoder would be able to drive the parameter values and patch
> numbers
> > too and also be used as a MIDI controller sender.
> >
> > But the encoder I'm looking at is about 20 bucks which is quite a
> bit
> > of money to add to a kit that is already likely to be about a
> hundred
> > bucks.
> >
> > I also intend to add new code when the Poly is in patch selection
> mode
> > (not parameter edit mode) so that you can up and down the selected
> > patch with the up and down keys. It drives me crazy that you have to
> > enter the patch number with two hits on the keypad when it would be
> of
> > some use to be able to just go up and down by one.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "jure zitnik" <kokoon@> wrote:
> > >
> > > hey!
> > >
> > > i just got a totally awesome idea :D
> > >
> > > WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any)
> parameter value
> > > with a joystick! i've been meaning
> > > to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing of the
> patches
> > > (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's already a
> > joystick, and
> > > since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?) i'm sure
> > something
> > > like that could be implemented... for instance, you could press a
> button
> > > combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value absolutely
> > in real
> > > time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or
> > switchable. or
> > > just when holding down a button, so you could then release a
> button,
> > release
> > > the joystick and then press the button again... you know what i
> mean? it
> > > would be SUPER-useful!
> > >
> > > umm... yeah :D
> > >
> > > jure
> > >
> > > On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Excellent!
> > > >
> > > > Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to
> Spanish
> > > > translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize
> the
> > > > kit/manual/website into Spanish.
> > > >
> > > > Best!
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > korgpolyex800 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Poly Fans,
> > > >
> > > > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod
> project.
> > > >
> > > > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod
> that
> > > > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K
> of RAM.
> > > > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that
> the
> > > > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to
> make
> > > > huge progress with some exciting new features that should give
> the old
> > > > synth some new character and flexibility.
> > > >
> > > > Check out my blog page at
> > > > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> > > >
> > > > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed
> the
> > > > global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available
> global
> > > > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches
> are
> > > > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global"
> mode. Over
> > > > the next week or two I will actually connect those global
> parameters
> > > > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended
> playing
> > > > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a
> single
> > > > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade
> mode
> > > > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch
> changes
> > > > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave -
> something I
> > > > call "sync mode").
> > > >
> > > > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the
> joystick
> > > > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try
> to
> > > > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the
> Poly
> > > > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've
> been
> > > > working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> > > > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and
> joystick
> > > > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
> > > >
> > > > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take
> more
> > > > than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> > > > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will
> handle the
> > > > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit
> that you
> > > > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions
> together
> > > > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken
> out of
> > > > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a
> mod
> > > > kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
> > > >
> > > > Mike.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on
> MSN
> > Travel.<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2755??PS=47575>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

There's also quadrature phased encoders that can give you up & down
signals in conjunction with a D-flip flop. That could still produce
somewhat erratic results without an addional de-bounce/de-chatter circuit.

Tim

On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, jure zitnik wrote:

> i had a schematic of a simple circuit, no microcontroller needed, don't
> remember how it works. but it's supposed to work and it's like 1 IC and a
> resistor. will check it out, maybe even throw it together and test it, i
> intended to anyway, just forgot about it :D
>
> jure
>
> On 8/7/07, Tim Bieniosek <tab27@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jusuf,
> >
> > I have to ask, which encoder did you employ, and did you read the data
> > sheet? I ask because rotary "encoders" output a coded pattern meant to be
> > read by a microcontroller, generally something like on-off-off-on on pin 1
> > and off-off-on-on on pin 2. etc. The poly 800 up/down buttons as I read
> > the schematic are simple switches, so depending on how you wired in the
> > encoder this could produce highly erratic results :*)
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, jusufzemplin wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I tried to deploy rotary encoder, but only instead of Down/Up
> > > buttons. I simply connected it "parallely" with buttons. But I was
> > > able to get only 20-positions encoder, so you can imagine, what a
> > > turning is necessary for 00-99 cutoff for example...) . In my wiring
> > > I found my solution is not very reliable, values sometimes changed
> > > itselves, sometimes it behaved like all time pressed "Down" button...
> > > May this is THE Randomization what I asked for -)
> > >
> > > Jusuf
> > >
> > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com <korgpolyex%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "korgpolyex800"
> > > <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jure,
> > > >
> > > > I forgot to mention that I've been looking at rotary encoders for
> > > the
> > > > EX800 to go where the tune pot is. For the Poly 800 itself, I think
> > > > we're going to have to drill a hole for it. But once in place, the
> > > > encoder would be able to drive the parameter values and patch
> > > numbers
> > > > too and also be used as a MIDI controller sender.
> > > >
> > > > But the encoder I'm looking at is about 20 bucks which is quite a
> > > bit
> > > > of money to add to a kit that is already likely to be about a
> > > hundred
> > > > bucks.
> > > >
> > > > I also intend to add new code when the Poly is in patch selection
> > > mode
> > > > (not parameter edit mode) so that you can up and down the selected
> > > > patch with the up and down keys. It drives me crazy that you have to
> > > > enter the patch number with two hits on the keypad when it would be
> > > of
> > > > some use to be able to just go up and down by one.
> > > >
> > > > Mike.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com <korgpolyex%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "jure zitnik" <kokoon@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hey!
> > > > >
> > > > > i just got a totally awesome idea :D
> > > > >
> > > > > WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any)
> > > parameter value
> > > > > with a joystick! i've been meaning
> > > > > to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing of the
> > > patches
> > > > > (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's already a
> > > > joystick, and
> > > > > since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?) i'm sure
> > > > something
> > > > > like that could be implemented... for instance, you could press a
> > > button
> > > > > combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value absolutely
> > > > in real
> > > > > time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or
> > > > switchable. or
> > > > > just when holding down a button, so you could then release a
> > > button,
> > > > release
> > > > > the joystick and then press the button again... you know what i
> > > mean? it
> > > > > would be SUPER-useful!
> > > > >
> > > > > umm... yeah :D
> > > > >
> > > > > jure
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Excellent!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an English to
> > > Spanish
> > > > > > translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to localize
> > > the
> > > > > > kit/manual/website into Spanish.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > korgpolyex800 wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Poly Fans,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod
> > > project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod
> > > that
> > > > > > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K
> > > of RAM.
> > > > > > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that
> > > the
> > > > > > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to
> > > make
> > > > > > huge progress with some exciting new features that should give
> > > the old
> > > > > > synth some new character and flexibility.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Check out my blog page at
> > > > > > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed
> > > the
> > > > > > global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available
> > > global
> > > > > > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches
> > > are
> > > > > > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global"
> > > mode. Over
> > > > > > the next week or two I will actually connect those global
> > > parameters
> > > > > > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended
> > > playing
> > > > > > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a
> > > single
> > > > > > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade
> > > mode
> > > > > > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch
> > > changes
> > > > > > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave -
> > > something I
> > > > > > call "sync mode").
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the
> > > joystick
> > > > > > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try
> > > to
> > > > > > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the
> > > Poly
> > > > > > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've
> > > been
> > > > > > working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> > > > > > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and
> > > joystick
> > > > > > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take
> > > more
> > > > > > than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> > > > > > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will
> > > handle the
> > > > > > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit
> > > that you
> > > > > > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions
> > > together
> > > > > > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken
> > > out of
> > > > > > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a
> > > mod
> > > > > > kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > Booking a flight? Know when to buy with airfare predictions on
> > > MSN
> > > > Travel.<http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2755??PS=47575>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Tim, I used only simple encoder, which encodes 2 exclusive bits -)),
alias 2 switches triggered by turning with small shaft. It is without
electronic, its really like parallel buttons in different mechanical
realization. Something like http://www.voti.nl/winkel/catalog.html?M-
SW-ROT - datasheet schematics. There are some documents for
inspiration as well.
I think i need some de-bouncing (thank you for right EN expression).

Jusuf

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Tim Bieniosek <tab27@...> wrote:
>
> There's also quadrature phased encoders that can give you up & down
> signals in conjunction with a D-flip flop. That could still produce
> somewhat erratic results without an addional de-bounce/de-chatter
circuit.
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, jure zitnik wrote:
>
> > i had a schematic of a simple circuit, no microcontroller needed,
don't
> > remember how it works. but it's supposed to work and it's like 1
IC and a
> > resistor. will check it out, maybe even throw it together and
test it, i
> > intended to anyway, just forgot about it :D
> >
> > jure
> >
> > On 8/7/07, Tim Bieniosek <tab27@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jusuf,
> > >
> > > I have to ask, which encoder did you employ, and did you read
the data
> > > sheet? I ask because rotary "encoders" output a coded pattern
meant to be
> > > read by a microcontroller, generally something like on-off-off-
on on pin 1
> > > and off-off-on-on on pin 2. etc. The poly 800 up/down buttons
as I read
> > > the schematic are simple switches, so depending on how you
wired in the
> > > encoder this could produce highly erratic results :*)
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, jusufzemplin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I tried to deploy rotary encoder, but only instead of Down/Up
> > > > buttons. I simply connected it "parallely" with buttons. But
I was
> > > > able to get only 20-positions encoder, so you can imagine,
what a
> > > > turning is necessary for 00-99 cutoff for example...) . In my
wiring
> > > > I found my solution is not very reliable, values sometimes
changed
> > > > itselves, sometimes it behaved like all time pressed "Down"
button...
> > > > May this is THE Randomization what I asked for -)
> > > >
> > > > Jusuf
> > > >
> > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
<korgpolyex%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "korgpolyex800"
> > > > <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jure,
> > > > >
> > > > > I forgot to mention that I've been looking at rotary
encoders for
> > > > the
> > > > > EX800 to go where the tune pot is. For the Poly 800 itself,
I think
> > > > > we're going to have to drill a hole for it. But once in
place, the
> > > > > encoder would be able to drive the parameter values and
patch
> > > > numbers
> > > > > too and also be used as a MIDI controller sender.
> > > > >
> > > > > But the encoder I'm looking at is about 20 bucks which is
quite a
> > > > bit
> > > > > of money to add to a kit that is already likely to be about
a
> > > > hundred
> > > > > bucks.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also intend to add new code when the Poly is in patch
selection
> > > > mode
> > > > > (not parameter edit mode) so that you can up and down the
selected
> > > > > patch with the up and down keys. It drives me crazy that
you have to
> > > > > enter the patch number with two hits on the keypad when it
would be
> > > > of
> > > > > some use to be able to just go up and down by one.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
<korgpolyex%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "jure zitnik" <kokoon@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hey!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i just got a totally awesome idea :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WHAT IF (!!!) you made it possible to edit/control (any)
> > > > parameter value
> > > > > > with a joystick! i've been meaning
> > > > > > to add a rotary encoder to the poly for quicker editing
of the
> > > > patches
> > > > > > (instead of the up/down buttons) but since there's
already a
> > > > > joystick, and
> > > > > > since it's signal is obviously A/D'ed (midi out, right?)
i'm sure
> > > > > something
> > > > > > like that could be implemented... for instance, you could
press a
> > > > button
> > > > > > combo and a joystick axis would set the parameter value
absolutely
> > > > > in real
> > > > > > time. or relatively, since it's spring-loaded. or both. or
> > > > > switchable. or
> > > > > > just when holding down a button, so you could then
release a
> > > > button,
> > > > > release
> > > > > > the joystick and then press the button again... you know
what i
> > > > mean? it
> > > > > > would be SUPER-useful!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > umm... yeah :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > jure
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/6/07, David Mochen <davidmochen@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Excellent!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thnx for your hard efforts. From this side, as an
English to
> > > > Spanish
> > > > > > > translator, I'd be pleased to help, should you want to
localize
> > > > the
> > > > > > > kit/manual/website into Spanish.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > korgpolyex800 wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Poly Fans,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my
mod
> > > > project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype
hardware mod
> > > > that
> > > > > > > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and
another 16K
> > > > of RAM.
> > > > > > > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI
functions that
> > > > the
> > > > > > > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been
able to
> > > > make
> > > > > > > huge progress with some exciting new features that
should give
> > > > the old
> > > > > > > synth some new character and flexibility.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Check out my blog page at
> > > > > > > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but
completed
> > > > the
> > > > > > > global parameters editing software. We now have 64
available
> > > > global
> > > > > > > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as
patches
> > > > are
> > > > > > > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new
"Global"
> > > > mode. Over
> > > > > > > the next week or two I will actually connect those
global
> > > > parameters
> > > > > > > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up,
extended
> > > > playing
> > > > > > > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can
send a
> > > > single
> > > > > > > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even
cascade
> > > > mode
> > > > > > > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together
and patch
> > > > changes
> > > > > > > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave -
> > > > something I
> > > > > > > call "sync mode").
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing
the
> > > > joystick
> > > > > > > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather
than try
> > > > to
> > > > > > > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick
is in the
> > > > Poly
> > > > > > > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code
that I've
> > > > been
> > > > > > > working with and just add my own routines for the
joystick and
> > > > > > > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard
and
> > > > joystick
> > > > > > > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel
settings.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate
shouldn't take
> > > > more
> > > > > > > than about two or three months), I will then only have
to do the
> > > > > > > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that
will
> > > > handle the
> > > > > > > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod
kit
> > > > that you
> > > > > > > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some
instructions
> > > > together
> > > > > > > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to
be taken
> > > > out of
> > > > > > > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I
should have a
> > > > mod
> > > > > > > kit ready for primetime probably around November or
December.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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>

Mike,

I can't overstate how interesting this project is! Are you going to
code in the ability to assign or hard set CC#'s to frequently used
editing parameters? Dare I say assign CC's to ALL of the editing
parameters, and leave the door open for software Patch editors? WoW!
That would be GRREAT!! If you do, I personally pledge to create a
Cubase VST instrument that would allow editing\control of CC
parameters and also allow you to record knob movements into your
Cubase project!! Yeah!! Let me know...

BTW...I recently found the EX800\Poly800 on a list of 'worst synths
ever'...Noobies havent done the Slayer and FM mods I guess. If you
have one of these boxes, it is an absolute requirement that you do
the mods! I've owned a Korg ms-20,Juno 106, Juno 2, Many in the MKS
series and a number of soft synths, and none of them have the
capabiliities that this 'lil box has with the mods..and once Mike
gets this Mod up, I have a feeling that a lot of synth zealots will
be looking on e-bay for the 'new' EX800\poly800....Ha! I bought mine
for $7 at the local thrift store!!!!!!!!!!!

Erik

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800"
<korgpolyex800@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Poly Fans,
>
> For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod project.
>
> Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod that
> has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K of

RAM.

> This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that the
> Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to make
> huge progress with some exciting new features that should give the

old

> synth some new character and flexibility.
>
> Check out my blog page at
> http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
>
> And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed the
> global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available global
> parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches are
> edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global" mode.

Over

> the next week or two I will actually connect those global parameters
> to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended

playing

> range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a single
> patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade mode
> (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch

changes

> on the master can be automatically sent to the slave - something I
> call "sync mode").
>
> Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the joystick
> code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try to
> work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the Poly
> 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've been
> working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and joystick
> with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
>
> Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take more
> than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will handle

the

> new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit that you
> can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions

together

> and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken out

of

> the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a mod
> kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
>
> Mike.
>

Erik,

I've already implemented VCF cutoff and resonance as extra CC's. I
even did a video demonstrating them and intended to upload them to
Youtube but alas, the upload to youtube doesn't work. Anyway, not to
worry, I will be implementing controllers for all of the other
parameters that can be done. Some parameters reset the notes when you
change them so it doesn't make alot of sense to implement those
parameters as controllers. Instead, I've implemented single patch
sysex send and receive.

Also, although I haven't actually done the FM mod and the moog slayer
mod and the 12/24 db filter switch mod, I've heard them on the
Internet and I am convinced that if I am able to create a fourth EG
that can be used to control the FM or moog slayer mod then we are
going to end up with a really wicked cool synth.

I've made so much progress over the last 18 months, and it has been a
very hard slog at times, but now we're getting close to having a real
mod kit available for all of us lowly Poly enthusiasts to blow the
opposition away.

I thank you for your pledge of support. And yes, I am definitely going
to be asking for help to get the support built up for the different
sequencer and editor applications out there.

Thanks so much for your support.

Mike.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Hines" <sablerock@...> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I can't overstate how interesting this project is! Are you going to
> code in the ability to assign or hard set CC#'s to frequently used
> editing parameters? Dare I say assign CC's to ALL of the editing
> parameters, and leave the door open for software Patch editors? WoW!
> That would be GRREAT!! If you do, I personally pledge to create a
> Cubase VST instrument that would allow editing\control of CC
> parameters and also allow you to record knob movements into your
> Cubase project!! Yeah!! Let me know...
>
> BTW...I recently found the EX800\Poly800 on a list of 'worst synths
> ever'...Noobies havent done the Slayer and FM mods I guess. If you
> have one of these boxes, it is an absolute requirement that you do
> the mods! I've owned a Korg ms-20,Juno 106, Juno 2, Many in the MKS
> series and a number of soft synths, and none of them have the
> capabiliities that this 'lil box has with the mods..and once Mike
> gets this Mod up, I have a feeling that a lot of synth zealots will
> be looking on e-bay for the 'new' EX800\poly800....Ha! I bought mine
> for $7 at the local thrift store!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Erik
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800"
> <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Poly Fans,
> >
> > For those of you new to the list, a little update on my mod project.
> >
> > Over the last 18 months, I have built a prototype hardware mod that
> > has a whopping 8K or ROM, 16K of flash EEPROM and another 16K of
> RAM.
> > This has allowed me to develop lots of new MIDI functions that the
> > Poly 800 MKI and EX 800 just never had. I've also been able to make
> > huge progress with some exciting new features that should give the
> old
> > synth some new character and flexibility.
> >
> > Check out my blog page at
> > http://patrioticduo.tripod.com/korgpoly800ex800mkiii/
> >
> > And now for the latest. Over the weekend, I all but completed the
> > global parameters editing software. We now have 64 available global
> > parameters that can be edited basically the same way as patches are
> > edited. You press the step key to drop into a new "Global" mode.
> Over
> > the next week or two I will actually connect those global parameters
> > to actual functions such as Omni on/off on power up, extended
> playing
> > range etc, sysx individual patch dump send (so you can send a single
> > patch to a second unit or to a computer) and odd/even cascade mode
> > (your two Poly's will now play 16 note poly together and patch
> changes
> > on the master can be automatically sent to the slave - something I
> > call "sync mode").
> >
> > Within the month, I'm going to switch over to writing the joystick
> > code and keyboard code for the Poly 800 itself. Rather than try to
> > work out where the code for the keyboard and joystick is in the Poly
> > 800 software I might as well just use the EX800 code that I've been
> > working with and just add my own routines for the joystick and
> > keyboard. That will allow me to configure the keyboard and joystick
> > with local control on/off and MIDI transmit channel settings.
> >
> > Once I get that code completed (which I estimate shouldn't take more
> > than about two or three months), I will then only have to do the
> > actual artwork for the new printed circuit board that will handle
> the
> > new EEPROM and RAM and package everything up into a mod kit that you
> > can all get your hands on. I'll have to put some instructions
> together
> > and pictures on how to remove the one chip that has to be taken out
> of
> > the main board etc. But basically, I think that I should have a mod
> > kit ready for primetime probably around November or December.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
>