Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

thinking out loud about my wish list for new features at the OS level...

* velocity -> DCA
* velocity -> DCF
* velocity -> ENV 3 depth (maybe also for ENV 1-2)
* velocity -> noise level
* mono (4/8 voices stacked)
* portamento (legato mode? velocity -> speed?)
* all parameters should be tweakable via MIDI CC (with 7 bit
resolution, where appropriate)
* increase the resolution of current parameters to 7 bit (where
appropriate)
* random patch generator???

if all parameters can be programmed via MIDI CC, is there a need/desire to
make them all accessible from the front panel? using MIDI CC to program
new parameters could almost double the number of parameters available from
the front panel, since it currently uses a base 8 numbering system.


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Hi Atom,

Velocity features are completely out of the question because
that would require modifying the keyboard mechanism itself. Something
I simply cannot do right now is set up a real metal shop. Sorry about
that. Besides which, it would blow our $120 sale price.

Mono 4/8 layered - oh yeah that will be doable and very nice indeed.

Portamento looks doable. But might end up tricky as we'll have to
slide from one note to the next, then change note up one with the
slide reset to zero and then slide up to the next, and so on.

7 bit parameters should be doable also although there might be
limitations on things like MG frequency. If we change the range from
16 (0-15) to 127 thus making the MG run nice and slow then you may
notice the step changes at the slow rates. This is something we'll
have to test. The DEG's could be affected in the same manner. Slow
them down too much and you might here the step changes in volume and
or filter steps.

At this point, I am disassembling the EX800. The Poly will have to
wait until the EX800 is done. I figured it would be easier to reverse
engineer the EX800 and certainly easier to build the retrofit kit into
it. When completed, it would be a matter of adding the keyboard and
joystick code (which should in theory be easier to find in the Poly800
ROM once I have intimate knowledge of the EX800).

Has anyone noticed how there hasn't been an EX800 on ebay for several
weeks? Where did they all go?

Anyway, this could take a while.

Mike H.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@...> wrote:
>
> thinking out loud about my wish list for new features at the OS level...
>
> * velocity -> DCA
> * velocity -> DCF
> * velocity -> ENV 3 depth (maybe also for ENV 1-2)
> * velocity -> noise level
> * mono (4/8 voices stacked)
> * portamento (legato mode? velocity -> speed?)
> * all parameters should be tweakable via MIDI CC (with 7 bit
> resolution, where appropriate)
> * increase the resolution of current parameters to 7 bit (where
> appropriate)
> * random patch generator???
>
> if all parameters can be programmed via MIDI CC, is there a
need/desire to
> make them all accessible from the front panel? using MIDI CC to program
> new parameters could almost double the number of parameters
available from
> the front panel, since it currently uses a base 8 numbering system.
>
>
> --
> ...atom
>
> ________________________
> http://atom.smasher.org/
> 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
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>
> "Since trade ignores national boundaries and the manufacturer
> insists on having the world as a market, the flag of his
> nation must follow him, and the doors of the nations which
> are closed against him must be battered down. Concessions
> obtained by financiers must be safeguarded by ministers of
> state, even if the sovereignty of unwilling nations be
> outraged in the process. Colonies must be obtained or
> planted, in order that no useful corner of the world may be
> overlooked or left unused."
> -- Woodrow Wilson,
> President of the United States, 1919
>

> Velocity features are completely out of the question because
> that would require modifying the keyboard mechanism itself.

He probably meant from Midi.

> Mono 4/8 layered - oh yeah that will be doable and very nice indeed.

This is probably doable. It would be nice to adjust the amount of
detuning in mono mode with LFO or EG3. Maybe we could abuse Voice2
parameters for such things.

Also more Waveforms for the LFO are probably very easy. S/H, Saw, Ramp
U/D, Square should be easier than sine.


ziggystar

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, patrioticduo wrote:

> Velocity features are completely out of the question because that would
> require modifying the keyboard mechanism itself. Something I simply
> cannot do right now is set up a real metal shop. Sorry about that.
> Besides which, it would blow our $120 sale price.

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i just want my ex-800 to be able to make use of velocity over MIDI... no
hardware mod.

> Mono 4/8 layered - oh yeah that will be doable and very nice indeed.
>
> Portamento looks doable. But might end up tricky as we'll have to slide
> from one note to the next, then change note up one with the slide reset
> to zero and then slide up to the next, and so on.
>
> 7 bit parameters should be doable also although there might be
> limitations on things like MG frequency. If we change the range from 16
> (0-15) to 127 thus making the MG run nice and slow then you may notice
> the step changes at the slow rates. This is something we'll have to
> test. The DEG's could be affected in the same manner. Slow them down too
> much and you might here the step changes in volume and or filter steps.
>
> At this point, I am disassembling the EX800. The Poly will have to wait
> until the EX800 is done. I figured it would be easier to reverse
> engineer the EX800 and certainly easier to build the retrofit kit into
> it. When completed, it would be a matter of adding the keyboard and
> joystick code (which should in theory be easier to find in the Poly800
> ROM once I have intimate knowledge of the EX800).
>
> Has anyone noticed how there hasn't been an EX800 on ebay for several
> weeks? Where did they all go?
>
> Anyway, this could take a while.

================

cool... thanks!



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Hi there,
does anyone has the actual the original poly 800mk2 factory sound bank sheet ( in pdf or
whatever…) as normally given with the user's manual?
Cheers

hehe keep voice2 around in mono mode, that way you can set it an
octave low for extra fat goodness :) Or in case you wanted more square
waveish sound to the sawtooth you could add in a different waveform.

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "austeritygirlone" <ziggystar@...>
wrote:

>
>
> > Velocity features are completely out of the question because
> > that would require modifying the keyboard mechanism itself.
>
> He probably meant from Midi.
>
> > Mono 4/8 layered - oh yeah that will be doable and very nice indeed.
>
> This is probably doable. It would be nice to adjust the amount of
> detuning in mono mode with LFO or EG3. Maybe we could abuse Voice2
> parameters for such things.
>
> Also more Waveforms for the LFO are probably very easy. S/H, Saw, Ramp
> U/D, Square should be easier than sine.
>
>
> ziggystar
>