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Good news/bad news...

Good news/bad news...

2006-04-21 by Rob

Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too good
at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked the
V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected some
kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and lo and
behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It all
swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound is
tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume pot.
Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-off with
VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator (not
necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize this
thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is a bother.
As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly effective
bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine, so
even if there is something wrong at the component level, I shouldn't
have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there has seen
this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from some one
familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it won't be
a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another Korg
back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch, single
sweep noise machine.
I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
Monty Python...
"IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"

Re: [korgpolyex] Good news/bad news...

2006-04-21 by Manu

If it doesn't contain a battery all the default sounds are gone. You
need to add a battery then restore the sound in order to make a fully
working Poly sound. Mine was unable to make any sound until I did this.

Manu

Re: [korgpolyex] Good news/bad news...

2006-04-21 by Manu

If it doesn't contain a battery all the default sounds are gone. You
need to add a battery then restore the sound in order to make a fully
working Poly sound. Mine was unable to make any sound until I did this.

Manu

Re: [korgpolyex] Good news/bad news...

2006-04-21 by Manu

Ops, sorry for the double post :)


> need to add a battery then restore the sound in order to make a fully

I mean, restore the sounds reprogramming them by hand or using a cassette.



Manu

Re: Good news/bad news...

2006-04-21 by Rob

OK, that sounds hopeful, but does the battery take the display out
with it when it goes? Without a display how can you tell it to program
from the cassete input? And where is the sweep coming from at
start-up, is this what it does when the battery dies as well? It
resets every time I turn it off.




--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Manu <g.manu@...> wrote:
>
> If it doesn't contain a battery all the default sounds are gone. You
> need to add a battery then restore the sound in order to make a fully
> working Poly sound. Mine was unable to make any sound until I did this.
>
> Manu
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Good news/bad news...

2006-04-21 by Tim Bieniosek

That behavior definitely sounds bad, it's not a matter of re-initializing
things. The keyboard would still be functional even if memory were lost.

I'm sure you've checked all the socketed IC's are seated, and the cable
connections plugged in, checked for obvious signs of damage (stains from
a spilled drink?) etc.

Are the LEDs getting power? You could try working back from there...


On Fri, 21 Apr 2006, Rob wrote:

> Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too good
> at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked the
> V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected some
> kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and lo and
> behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It all
> swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound is
> tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume pot.
> Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-off with
> VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator (not
> necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize this
> thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is a bother.
> As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly effective
> bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine, so
> even if there is something wrong at the component level, I shouldn't
> have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there has seen
> this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from some one
> familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it won't be
> a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another Korg
> back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch, single
> sweep noise machine.
> I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> Monty Python...
> "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Good news/bad news...

2006-04-21 by Marcus Wilson

G'day Rob

Ive now resurrected 2 korgs from dead state, with no display on the
LED's

it seems from both of mine that the issue was with the +5/-5V
generation circuit

The second one also had a dead op-amp in the headphone out circuit
which i managed to get sorted again and both are now happy

To check whether this is the problem with yours, take some readings
at the joystick for the +5 -5V where the connector plugs in

if these are not showing the appropriate voltages, its a fairly good
chance that the 3 input transistors have gone bunky, and not
generating the voltages for the LED circuitry etc

check out Q1 Q3 and Q18 to make sure they are functioning correctly

the schematics for the poly are stored in the archive for this newsgroup

good luck!

Marcus Wilson

On 21/04/2006, at 1:03 PM, Rob wrote:


> Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too good
> at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked the
> V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected some
> kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and lo and
> behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It all
> swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound is
> tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume pot.
> Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-off with
> VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator (not
> necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize this
> thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is a
> bother.
> As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly effective
> bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine, so
> even if there is something wrong at the component level, I shouldn't
> have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there has seen
> this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from some one
> familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it won't be
> a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another Korg
> back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch, single
> sweep noise machine.
> I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> Monty Python...
> "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Good news/bad news...

2006-04-22 by Rob

Well, wonders never cease! I was completely sure, that after reading
your post in the wee hours this AM that you were long gone from the
group and that I would have little to nil chance of you reading my
post and responding. What's more that you did the next day! This is
all getting a little strange. My new Poly-800 really wants to LIVE!
What crucial info, too! I read your post and my heart sped up a bit
because I knew that I had the same problem, replicated. And since you
had said that you fixed yours I knew there was a chance. BTW, my
head-phone amp is fine, very clear indeed and plenty loud!
I agree, I think that I have a 5V+/- situation here and I'll look at
those three tranies straight off. I might as well check up from each
leg a bit to see if anything went with it. Fingers are crossed, I may
have to visit the magic 8-ball! We never know till either the thing
works or the essential blue smoke comes out of it. What-ever the
outcome, you have my most sincere thanks! I hope to post a "happy
ending" post early in the week. As for now I am going to be taking
advantage of our fine city's free dump week-end. I am going to rid
myself of a few year's worth of things. I'll do the Korg benchwork on
Monday most likely. See you then, and keep those cards and letters
coming about this issue. We aren't through diagnosing this puppy yet.
News at 11.

Rob



--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Wilson <JB@...> wrote:
>
> G'day Rob
>
> Ive now resurrected 2 korgs from dead state, with no display on the
> LED's
>
> it seems from both of mine that the issue was with the +5/-5V
> generation circuit
>
> The second one also had a dead op-amp in the headphone out circuit
> which i managed to get sorted again and both are now happy
>
> To check whether this is the problem with yours, take some readings
> at the joystick for the +5 -5V where the connector plugs in
>
> if these are not showing the appropriate voltages, its a fairly good
> chance that the 3 input transistors have gone bunky, and not
> generating the voltages for the LED circuitry etc
>
> check out Q1 Q3 and Q18 to make sure they are functioning correctly
>
> the schematics for the poly are stored in the archive for this newsgroup
>
> good luck!
>
> Marcus Wilson
>
> On 21/04/2006, at 1:03 PM, Rob wrote:
>
>
> > Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too good
> > at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> > kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked the
> > V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected some
> > kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and lo and
> > behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> > and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It all
> > swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound is
> > tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume pot.
> > Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-off with
> > VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator (not
> > necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> > secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize this
> > thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is a
> > bother.
> > As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly effective
> > bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine, so
> > even if there is something wrong at the component level, I shouldn't
> > have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there has seen
> > this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from some one
> > familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it won't be
> > a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another Korg
> > back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch, single
> > sweep noise machine.
> > I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> > Monty Python...
> > "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-22 by dharmaone1977

I've got exactly the same problem!!!

got my poly800 mkI 2nd hand, LED display/keys not working, the only
thing it gives is a slow sweep from sub bass to high freq noise a few
secs after turning it on, then stays making noise until i turn it off.
chorus, filters and oscillators hence work.

Any ideas?

When powered the IC's all seem to have a voltage across them apart
from the LED IC. could it be a broken IC or (hopefully) something in
the +-5V power circuit not giving the board proper juice? the voltage
regulators maybe?

It's not mkII so it doesn't have internal battery.

No signs of leaked caps or cold solder joints or physical damage...
Tested with both batteries and 9V adapter

THANKS!!

Jouni


--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <r.bowe@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too good
> at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked the
> V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected some
> kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and lo and
> behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It all
> swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound is
> tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume pot.
> Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-off with
> VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator (not
> necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize this
> thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is a
bother.
> As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly effective
> bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine, so
> even if there is something wrong at the component level, I shouldn't
> have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there has seen
> this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from some one
> familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it won't be
> a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another Korg
> back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch, single
> sweep noise machine.
> I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> Monty Python...
> "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
>

Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-22 by Michael Hawkins

If you have an oscilloscope or multimeter then download the schematics from our group web site and then check the test points that are shown on the schematic.

If you have an oscilloscope then you can check the waveforms precisely. If you only have a multimeter then looking for some voltage will do.

Disclaimer: Just be very careful poking around because you don't want to short anything out and do more damage than you already might have.

Regardless of the condition of the display chips, the display won't show anything at all if the RES6.5 clock is not running. So check for voltage on pin 9 of the 80C85. It should read a little above 0 volts.

Let us know what you find.

Mike.

dharmaone1977 <dharmaone1977@...> wrote:
I've got exactly the same problem!!!

got my poly800 mkI 2nd hand, LED display/keys not working, the only
thing it gives is a slow sweep from sub bass to high freq noise a few
secs after turning it on, then stays making noise until i turn it off.
chorus, filters and oscillators hence work.

Any ideas?

When powered the IC's all seem to have a voltage across them apart
from the LED IC. could it be a broken IC or (hopefully) something in
the +-5V power circuit not giving the board proper juice? the voltage
regulators maybe?

It's not mkII so it doesn't have internal battery.

No signs of leaked caps or cold solder joints or physical damage...
Tested with both batteries and 9V adapter

THANKS!!

Jouni

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com, "Rob" <r.bowe@...> wrote:
>
> Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too good
> at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked the
> V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected some
> kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and lo and
> behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It all
> swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound is
> tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume pot.
> Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-off with
> VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator (not
> necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize this
> thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is a
bother.
> As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly effective
> bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine, so
> even if there is something wrong at the component level, I shouldn't
> have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there has seen
> this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from some one
> familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it won't be
> a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another Korg
> back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch, single
> sweep noise machine.
> I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> Monty Python...
> "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
>


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Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-22 by dharmaone1977

Hi there!

Got a multimeter and downloaded the schematics - will check the CPU
pin 9 later tonight. How are the test points shown, I might be stupid
but I can't see them on the schematic?

here's a couple of shots of the board -
http://www.mixtapedealers.co.uk/korgpcb2.jpg

and

http://www.mixtapedealers.co.uk/korgpcb.jpg
showing a bit of corrosion some of the power section solder joints

Thanks!
Jouni


--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...>
wrote:
>
> If you have an oscilloscope or multimeter then download the
schematics from our group web site and then check the test points that
are shown on the schematic.
>
> If you have an oscilloscope then you can check the waveforms
precisely. If you only have a multimeter then looking for some voltage
will do.
>
> Disclaimer: Just be very careful poking around because you don't
want to short anything out and do more damage than you already might have.
>
> Regardless of the condition of the display chips, the display won't
show anything at all if the RES6.5 clock is not running. So check for
voltage on pin 9 of the 80C85. It should read a little above 0 volts.
>
> Let us know what you find.
>
> Mike.
>
> dharmaone1977 <dharmaone1977@...> wrote:
I've got exactly the same problem!!!
>
> got my poly800 mkI 2nd hand, LED display/keys not working, the only
> thing it gives is a slow sweep from sub bass to high freq noise a few
> secs after turning it on, then stays making noise until i turn it off.
> chorus, filters and oscillators hence work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> When powered the IC's all seem to have a voltage across them apart
> from the LED IC. could it be a broken IC or (hopefully) something in
> the +-5V power circuit not giving the board proper juice? the voltage
> regulators maybe?
>
> It's not mkII so it doesn't have internal battery.
>
> No signs of leaked caps or cold solder joints or physical damage...
> Tested with both batteries and 9V adapter
>
> THANKS!!
>
> Jouni
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <r.bowe@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too good
> > at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> > kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked the
> > V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected some
> > kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and lo and
> > behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> > and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It all
> > swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound is
> > tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume pot.
> > Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-off
with
> > VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator (not
> > necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> > secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize this
> > thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is a
> bother.
> > As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly effective
> > bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine, so
> > even if there is something wrong at the component level, I shouldn't
> > have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there has
seen
> > this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from some one
> > familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it
won't be
> > a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another Korg
> > back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch,
single
> > sweep noise machine.
> > I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> > Monty Python...
> > "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-22 by Russ

first try programming it! If it hasnt had any voltages to hold the patches then you get random patches when you turn it on. Also put some battereis in there! In lieu of a ram battery a bunch of C cells help hold the patches nicely. If that doesnt work try giving a slight twist to the VR on the far left. That seems to be the one that regulates the important IC voltages.
I recently resurected a dead MKIĀ  with this.
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Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-24 by dharmaone1977

I've checked it with the multimeter now and the pin 9 and 8 on the
80C85 show 5v DC.. it doesn't respond to setting any parameters or
the keys, just stays at this noisy sound after the initial
filter/frequency sweep

any ideas?

Thanks!
jouni



--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins
<korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>
> If you have an oscilloscope or multimeter then download the
schematics from our group web site and then check the test points
that are shown on the schematic.
>
> If you have an oscilloscope then you can check the waveforms
precisely. If you only have a multimeter then looking for some
voltage will do.
>
> Disclaimer: Just be very careful poking around because you don't
want to short anything out and do more damage than you already might
have.
>
> Regardless of the condition of the display chips, the display won't
show anything at all if the RES6.5 clock is not running. So check for
voltage on pin 9 of the 80C85. It should read a little above 0 volts.
>
> Let us know what you find.
>
> Mike.
>
> dharmaone1977 <dharmaone1977@...>
wrote: I've got exactly the same
problem!!!
>
> got my poly800 mkI 2nd hand, LED display/keys not working, the only
> thing it gives is a slow sweep from sub bass to high freq noise a
few
> secs after turning it on, then stays making noise until i turn it
off.
> chorus, filters and oscillators hence work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> When powered the IC's all seem to have a voltage across them apart
> from the LED IC. could it be a broken IC or (hopefully) something
in
> the +-5V power circuit not giving the board proper juice? the
voltage
> regulators maybe?
>
> It's not mkII so it doesn't have internal battery.
>
> No signs of leaked caps or cold solder joints or physical damage...
> Tested with both batteries and 9V adapter
>
> THANKS!!
>
> Jouni
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <r.bowe@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too
good
> > at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> > kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked
the
> > V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected
some
> > kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and
lo and
> > behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> > and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It
all
> > swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound
is
> > tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume
pot.
> > Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-
off with
> > VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator
(not
> > necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> > secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize
this
> > thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is
a
> bother.
> > As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly
effective
> > bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine,
so
> > even if there is something wrong at the component level, I
shouldn't
> > have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there
has seen
> > this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from
some one
> > familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it
won't be
> > a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another
Korg
> > back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch,
single
> > sweep noise machine.
> > I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> > Monty Python...
> > "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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> Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find
flight and hotel bargains.
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-24 by Marcus Wilson

check at the joystock for the +/- 9V and the +/-5V
id be thinking its your power input stage to the whole poly

especially if you are not getting the LED display up

best regards,

JB

On 25/02/2007, at 1:38 AM, dharmaone1977 wrote:

> I've checked it with the multimeter now and the pin 9 and 8 on the
> 80C85 show 5v DC.. it doesn't respond to setting any parameters or
> the keys, just stays at this noisy sound after the initial
> filter/frequency sweep
>
> any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> jouni
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins
> <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
> >
> > If you have an oscilloscope or multimeter then download the
> schematics from our group web site and then check the test points
> that are shown on the schematic.
> >
> > If you have an oscilloscope then you can check the waveforms
> precisely. If you only have a multimeter then looking for some
> voltage will do.
> >
> > Disclaimer: Just be very careful poking around because you don't
> want to short anything out and do more damage than you already might
> have.
> >
> > Regardless of the condition of the display chips, the display won't
> show anything at all if the RES6.5 clock is not running. So check for
> voltage on pin 9 of the 80C85. It should read a little above 0 volts.
> >
> > Let us know what you find.
> >
> > Mike.
> >
> > dharmaone1977 <dharmaone1977@...>
> wrote: I've got exactly the same
> problem!!!
> >
> > got my poly800 mkI 2nd hand, LED display/keys not working, the only
> > thing it gives is a slow sweep from sub bass to high freq noise a
> few
> > secs after turning it on, then stays making noise until i turn it
> off.
> > chorus, filters and oscillators hence work.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > When powered the IC's all seem to have a voltage across them apart
> > from the LED IC. could it be a broken IC or (hopefully) something
> in
> > the +-5V power circuit not giving the board proper juice? the
> voltage
> > regulators maybe?
> >
> > It's not mkII so it doesn't have internal battery.
> >
> > No signs of leaked caps or cold solder joints or physical damage...
> > Tested with both batteries and 9V adapter
> >
> > THANKS!!
> >
> > Jouni
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <r.bowe@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too
> good
> > > at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> > > kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked
> the
> > > V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected
> some
> > > kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and
> lo and
> > > behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> > > and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It
> all
> > > swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound
> is
> > > tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume
> pot.
> > > Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-
> off with
> > > VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator
> (not
> > > necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> > > secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize
> this
> > > thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is
> a
> > bother.
> > > As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly
> effective
> > > bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine,
> so
> > > even if there is something wrong at the component level, I
> shouldn't
> > > have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there
> has seen
> > > this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from
> some one
> > > familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it
> won't be
> > > a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another
> Korg
> > > back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch,
> single
> > > sweep noise machine.
> > > I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> > > Monty Python...
> > > "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Finding fabulous fares is fun.
> > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find
> flight and hotel bargains.
> >
>
>
>

Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-26 by dharmaone1977

+/-5V rails on the joystick seem ok.. in the power stage, the caps
look fine on the outside.. which ones of the transistors would be
likely to get whacked? the diodes there would protect them from
reverse current, right?

on IC IC25 most pins from 20-40 show no voltage.. Neither do the leds
or the transistor array driving them.. didn't test all of the ICs but
apart from these they were all showing voltage on the pins

Any ideas?

Thanks!
Jouni

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Wilson <JB@...> wrote:
>
> check at the joystock for the +/- 9V and the +/-5V
> id be thinking its your power input stage to the whole poly
>
> especially if you are not getting the LED display up
>
> best regards,
>
> JB
>
> On 25/02/2007, at 1:38 AM, dharmaone1977 wrote:
>
> > I've checked it with the multimeter now and the pin 9 and 8 on the
> > 80C85 show 5v DC.. it doesn't respond to setting any parameters or
> > the keys, just stays at this noisy sound after the initial
> > filter/frequency sweep
> >
> > any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > jouni
> >
> > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins
> > <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you have an oscilloscope or multimeter then download the
> > schematics from our group web site and then check the test points
> > that are shown on the schematic.
> > >
> > > If you have an oscilloscope then you can check the waveforms
> > precisely. If you only have a multimeter then looking for some
> > voltage will do.
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: Just be very careful poking around because you don't
> > want to short anything out and do more damage than you already might
> > have.
> > >
> > > Regardless of the condition of the display chips, the display won't
> > show anything at all if the RES6.5 clock is not running. So check for
> > voltage on pin 9 of the 80C85. It should read a little above 0 volts.
> > >
> > > Let us know what you find.
> > >
> > > Mike.
> > >
> > > dharmaone1977 <dharmaone1977@>
> > wrote: I've got exactly the same
> > problem!!!
> > >
> > > got my poly800 mkI 2nd hand, LED display/keys not working, the only
> > > thing it gives is a slow sweep from sub bass to high freq noise a
> > few
> > > secs after turning it on, then stays making noise until i turn it
> > off.
> > > chorus, filters and oscillators hence work.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > When powered the IC's all seem to have a voltage across them apart
> > > from the LED IC. could it be a broken IC or (hopefully) something
> > in
> > > the +-5V power circuit not giving the board proper juice? the
> > voltage
> > > regulators maybe?
> > >
> > > It's not mkII so it doesn't have internal battery.
> > >
> > > No signs of leaked caps or cold solder joints or physical damage...
> > > Tested with both batteries and 9V adapter
> > >
> > > THANKS!!
> > >
> > > Jouni
> > >
> > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <r.bowe@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking too
> > good
> > > > at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out of any
> > > > kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I checked
> > the
> > > > V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected
> > some
> > > > kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and
> > lo and
> > > > behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch, amplitude
> > > > and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It
> > all
> > > > swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the sound
> > is
> > > > tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the volume
> > pot.
> > > > Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-
> > off with
> > > > VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator
> > (not
> > > > necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is there a
> > > > secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize
> > this
> > > > thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of display is
> > a
> > > bother.
> > > > As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly
> > effective
> > > > bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics fine,
> > so
> > > > even if there is something wrong at the component level, I
> > shouldn't
> > > > have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there
> > has seen
> > > > this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from
> > some one
> > > > familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it
> > won't be
> > > > a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another
> > Korg
> > > > back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-patch,
> > single
> > > > sweep noise machine.
> > > > I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the words of
> > > > Monty Python...
> > > > "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Finding fabulous fares is fun.
> > > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find
> > flight and hotel bargains.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Good news/bad news...

2007-02-26 by Marcus Wilson

and the +/- 9V rails?

On 26/02/2007, at 11:37 PM, dharmaone1977 wrote:

> +/-5V rails on the joystick seem ok.. in the power stage, the caps
> look fine on the outside.. which ones of the transistors would be
> likely to get whacked? the diodes there would protect them from
> reverse current, right?
>
> on IC IC25 most pins from 20-40 show no voltage.. Neither do the leds
> or the transistor array driving them.. didn't test all of the ICs but
> apart from these they were all showing voltage on the pins
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> Jouni
>
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Marcus Wilson <JB@...> wrote:
> >
> > check at the joystock for the +/- 9V and the +/-5V
> > id be thinking its your power input stage to the whole poly
> >
> > especially if you are not getting the LED display up
> >
> > best regards,
> >
> > JB
> >
> > On 25/02/2007, at 1:38 AM, dharmaone1977 wrote:
> >
> > > I've checked it with the multimeter now and the pin 9 and 8 on the
> > > 80C85 show 5v DC.. it doesn't respond to setting any parameters or
> > > the keys, just stays at this noisy sound after the initial
> > > filter/frequency sweep
> > >
> > > any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > jouni
> > >
> > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins
> > > <korgpolyex800@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you have an oscilloscope or multimeter then download the
> > > schematics from our group web site and then check the test points
> > > that are shown on the schematic.
> > > >
> > > > If you have an oscilloscope then you can check the waveforms
> > > precisely. If you only have a multimeter then looking for some
> > > voltage will do.
> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer: Just be very careful poking around because you don't
> > > want to short anything out and do more damage than you already
> might
> > > have.
> > > >
> > > > Regardless of the condition of the display chips, the display
> won't
> > > show anything at all if the RES6.5 clock is not running. So
> check for
> > > voltage on pin 9 of the 80C85. It should read a little above 0
> volts.
> > > >
> > > > Let us know what you find.
> > > >
> > > > Mike.
> > > >
> > > > dharmaone1977 <dharmaone1977@>
> > > wrote: I've got exactly the same
> > > problem!!!
> > > >
> > > > got my poly800 mkI 2nd hand, LED display/keys not working,
> the only
> > > > thing it gives is a slow sweep from sub bass to high freq
> noise a
> > > few
> > > > secs after turning it on, then stays making noise until i
> turn it
> > > off.
> > > > chorus, filters and oscillators hence work.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > When powered the IC's all seem to have a voltage across them
> apart
> > > > from the LED IC. could it be a broken IC or (hopefully)
> something
> > > in
> > > > the +-5V power circuit not giving the board proper juice? the
> > > voltage
> > > > regulators maybe?
> > > >
> > > > It's not mkII so it doesn't have internal battery.
> > > >
> > > > No signs of leaked caps or cold solder joints or physical
> damage...
> > > > Tested with both batteries and 9V adapter
> > > >
> > > > THANKS!!
> > > >
> > > > Jouni
> > > >
> > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <r.bowe@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, the Poly-800 I saved from the dumpster is not looking
> too
> > > good
> > > > > at the moment! The bad news is that it has no LED read-out
> of any
> > > > > kind, no flashing, nada. The good thing is, is that as I
> checked
> > > the
> > > > > V+ at the input I caught it dropping a few volts and suspected
> > > some
> > > > > kind of life! I proceeded to connect a set of phones to it and
> > > lo and
> > > > > behold, the unit gave me a real slow, but sweet pitch,
> amplitude
> > > > > and filter sweep, in stereo several seconds after start-up! It
> > > all
> > > > > swept up to a max and held. The only thing I can do to the
> sound
> > > is
> > > > > tune it with the slider and turn it up and down with the
> volume
> > > pot.
> > > > > Absolutely nothing else works. (I can affect the res. and cut-
> > > off with
> > > > > VR's 2 & 3) So obviously the power, amp, filter and oscillator
> > > (not
> > > > > necessarily in that order!)sections are working fine. Is
> there a
> > > > > secret button combo or power-up trick that would re-initialize
> > > this
> > > > > thing or is the back-up and sysex "lost"? The lack of
> display is
> > > a
> > > > bother.
> > > > > As you may remember from my previous post, I am a fairly
> > > effective
> > > > > bench tech and a damn good solderer and I read schematics
> fine,
> > > so
> > > > > even if there is something wrong at the component level, I
> > > shouldn't
> > > > > have any problems doing the fix, as long as someone out there
> > > has seen
> > > > > this problem before and knows the situation here. Aside from
> > > some one
> > > > > familiar with this glitch, it will be a stretch. Hopefully it
> > > won't be
> > > > > a big deal, so if you have an idea, I'll try to raise another
> > > Korg
> > > > > back from the dead! Otherwise, I have a really huge mono-
> patch,
> > > single
> > > > > sweep noise machine.
> > > > > I am sure that's why I got this for nothing! But in the
> words of
> > > > > Monty Python...
> > > > > "IT"S NOT DEAD YET!!"
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > Finding fabulous fares is fun.
> > > > Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find
> > > flight and hotel bargains.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>