I did using OX's "Send Midi Controller Messages" and it didnt respond. I sent CC98 MSB 0, cc99 LSB 24 (VCF cutoff), CC06 127value. In that order, one at a time with nothing in between. The VCF cutoff did not change. I have tried other parameters too.. still no response. Any other ideas???? --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote: > > Use MIDI-OX to test. > > At least, that will calm your nerves that the HAWK does actually respond to NRPN. > > Mike > > > > > ________________________________ > From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@...> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 9:50 PM > Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Maudio midi controller problems.. > > > >  > > I've been trying with both the Oxygen and the Ozonic. > > I dont have any other keyboard that will send NRPN's. > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "k9k9dog" <domgoold@> wrote: > > > > ***DEFINITELY CHECK THE MIDI***!!! > > i had an oxygen, first model, and it was a piece of sh*t, > > i took it back: there is constant activity on the midi CC, > > and it screwed up my laptop of th time. swapped it for an > > evolution and the problem went away. serious, i believe > > this is all down to the oxygen, it must be incompatible > > with some stuff. try another keyboard. > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "bimmerfan222" <bperkins211@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. channels have been properly matched. > > > if I set a controller to CC it will function properly. > > > try to change the same controller into a NRPN and it falls on its face > > > > > > its this multi message business that is throwing it for a loop > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Silly question but are you sure you have MIDI receive channel set to the channel that you are sending CC's on? > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@> > > > > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 12:19 AM > > > > Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Maudio midi controller problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > > Thanks for trying to figure this out. > > > > > > > > I tried the new code and the HAWK still wont respond to NRPN's from the Oxygen 8. > > > > All the standard CC's work though. > > > > > > > > Hopefully there's an easy fix for this, I now have two M-Audio controller keyboards that use the exact same NRPN protocol, > > > > LSB, MSB then a stream of Data values. > > > > They will resend LSB/MSB if the control movement slows down, stops/starts again or goes in reverse, but that doesnt seem to have any effect. > > > > > > > > The M-Audio Ozonic I just got today has Aftertouch along with 8 rotary knobs, 9 faders, a programmable joystick and over a dozen momentary switches to program. I was real excited to use this thing with the HAWK since it has so many controls and especially the aftertouch, which is really cool when programmed to open/close the filter :) It's my first aftertouch capable keyboard. > > > > > > > > Any other ideas on how to get the HAWK to respond? > > > > > > > > -Blaine > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Actually, here is better code. It says, if I receive any RPN then cancel the current status for NRPN's. So if you inadvertently send RPN's they won't stomp on the NRPN's. > > > > > > > > > > Much better. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> > > > > > To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:57 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Maudio midi controller problems.. [3 Attachments] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > [Attachment(s) from Michael Hawkins included below] > > > > > OK, I changed the code to allow sending MSB,LSB or LSB,MSB and then data values. And I also allow sending multiple data values without MSB or LSB being resent. > > > > > > > > > > I attach the updated software files. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know it goes. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> > > > > > To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:33 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Maudio midi controller problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > OK, so I checked my code. Here are my comments in the assembler code for receiving NRPN: > > > > > > > > > > ; NRPN MSB followed by NRPN LSB then data value. No other sequence or combination is permitted. > > > > > ; And NRPN MSB and LSB must be transmitted for each and every data value (ie: there is no NRPN running status). > > > > > ; reception of the NRPN MSB always resets the NRPN sequence. > > > > > > > > > > I wrote the code this way because it appears to be the most common implementation and is 100% reliable. Whereas, other implementations (such as your controller) result in ambiguous situations where MIDI NRPN controllers can be screwed up. > > > > > > > > > > See http://www.philrees.co.uk/nrpnq.htm > > > > > > > > > > I am willing to hear from others as to whether this is proper practice or not. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps I could be convinced to add a global parameter to allow changing > > > > > the NRPN behavior. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > And here is the actual assembler: > > > > > > > > > > ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > ; the MIDI NRPN controller messages are handled below > > > > > ; the NRPN MSB received must match the global NRPN MSB (global 16) for any parameter change to occur > > > > > ; in order to avoid overruns and stop RPN's from interfering with NRPN's, the sequence of NRPN MUST be > > > > > ; NRPN MSB followed by NRPN LSB then data value. No other sequencer combination is permitted. > > > > > ; And NRPN MSB and LSB must be transmitted for each and every data value (ie: there is no NRPN running status). > > > > > ; reception of the NRPN MSB always resets the NRPN sequence > > > > > ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > MIDI_NRPN_MSB: > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàmovÃâàÃâàÃâàa, d > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàstaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_MSBÃâàÃâàÃâà> > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâà; save the NRPN MSB > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàmviÃâàÃâàÃâàa, 2ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; set NRPN sequence to MSB received > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàstaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_SEQUENCE > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàjmpÃâàÃâàÃâàMIDI_MODE_NOÃâàÃâàÃâà; end by reset of control change status > > > > > ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > MIDI_NRPN_LSB: > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàldaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_SEQUENCEÃâàÃâàÃâà; get current NRPN sequence > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàcpiÃâàÃâàÃâà2ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; test for MSB received > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàjnzÃâàÃâàÃâàMIDI_MODE_NOÃâàÃâàÃâà; no MSB received so get out > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà> > > > > dcrÃâàÃâàÃâàaÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; set A=1 (LSB received) > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàstaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_SEQUENCEÃâàÃâàÃâà; save sequence flag > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàmovÃâàÃâàÃâàa, dÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; put MIDI Data value into A > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàstaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_LSBÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; save the NRPN LSB > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàjmpÃâàÃâàÃâàMIDI_MODE_NOÃâàÃâàÃâà; end by reset of control change status > > > > > ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > MIDI_NRPN_DAT: > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàldaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_SEQUENCEÃâàÃâàÃâà; get current NRPN sequence > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàcpiÃâàÃâàÃâà1ÃâàÃâàÃâà> > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; test for MSB and LSB received > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàjnzÃâàÃâàÃâàMIDI_MODE_NOÃâàÃâàÃâà; no MSB,LSB received so get out > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàdcrÃâàÃâàÃâàaÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; set A=0 (reset sequence flag) > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàstaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_SEQUENCEÃâàÃâàÃâà; save sequence flag > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàmovÃâàÃâàÃâàa, d > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàstaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_DATAÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; save the data value > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàldaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_MSBÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; get the current NRPN MSB > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàmovÃâàÃâàÃâàb, aÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; put the current NRPN MSB into > > > > > B > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàldaÃâàÃâàÃâàC_NRPN_MSBÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; get selected NRPN MSB (global 16) > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàcmpÃâàÃâàÃâàbÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; compare selected NRPN MSB to current NRPN MSB > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàmviÃâàÃâàÃâàa, 1ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; preload A = true > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàjzÃâàÃâàÃâàMIDI_NRPN_SKIPÃâàÃâàÃâà; skip if selected MSB = current MSB > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàxraÃâàÃâàÃâàaÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâà; did not match therefore set changed flag = false > > > > > MIDI_NRPN_SKIP: > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàÃâàstaÃâàÃâàÃâàM_NRPN_CHANGEÃâàÃâàÃâà; save changed flag (will only change if NRPN MSB matches global) > > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâà> > > > > ÃâàÃâàÃâàjmpÃâàÃâàÃâàMIDI_MODE_NOÃâàÃâàÃâà; end by reset of control change status > > > > > ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> > > > > > To: "korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com" <korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:31 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Maudio midi controller problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > I'll have to check it out later today. But glancing at it, looks like it should work. > > > > > > > > > > Although, it is more common to see NRPN and RPN's to be sent in groups of three for every message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is a bit unusual to see the LSB and MSB to go out once and then a bunch of value messages by themselves. > > > > > > > > > > However, I believe that the HAWK code supports that anyway. I'll have to check. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@> > > > > > To: korgpolyex@...m > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:29 AM > > > > > Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Maudio midi controller problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > > I managed to fix the jittery output. The 8th pot was defective, causing the MC's analog input to float without a steady reference I guess. > > > > > Anyway, that one defective pot messed up the other 7 in that group. I guess the mod wheel was on some kind of isolated circuit? I dunno.. > > > > > Just glad the new pot I put in fixed it! > > > > > Additionally, the old pot must have been impacted by the PO. Not only damaging the pot, but also the trace/pad for that pot's wiper lead. It was lifted from the PCB when I went in to desolder it! > > > > > The new pot's lead is barely making connection.. If it goes bad again, I may have to just remove the pot and ground the input to stabilize the rest. > > > > > > > > > > I still have NRPN problems. > > > > > > > > > > This is a link to the Oxygen's manual.. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.m-audio.com/images/global/manuals/051014_OxyLine_UG-EN01_V1.PDF > > > > > > > > > > Here's a copy of what MIDIOX showed when I setup a knob to nrpn control "90", the VCF LFO1 Mod Depth. I have "GL 16 00" as my global setting. > > > > > > > > > > 024DEEAE 1 -- B0 62 5A 1 --- CC: NRPN LSB > > > > > 024DEEAF 1 -- B0 63 00 1 --- CC: NRPN MSB > > > > > 024DEEB0 1 -- B0 06 01 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DEEE0 1 -- B0 06 02 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DEF14 1 -- B0 06 04 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DEF74 1 -- B0 06 06 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DEFCB 1 -- B0 06 07 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF045 1 -- B0 06 08 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF078 1 -- B0 06 09 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF0CA 1 -- B0 06 0A 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF15D 1 -- B0 06 0B 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF1C3 1 -- B0 06 0C 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF256 1 -- B0 06 0D 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF2CB 1 -- B0 06 0F 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF3BB 1 -- B0 62 5A 1 --- CC: NRPN LSB > > > > > 024DF3BC 1 -- B0 63 00 1 --- CC: NRPN MSB > > > > > 024DF3BD 1 -- B0 06 10 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF44E 1 -- B0 06 11 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > 024DF529 1 -- B0 06 12 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB > > > > > > > > > > No response whatsoever from the HAWK with the above stream of msgs, post surgery. > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > -Blaine > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Check for a midi loop. > > > > > > > > > > > > Send the text of a batch of the CC messages you're seeing on MIDI-OX. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: bimmerfan222 <bperkins211@> > > > > > > To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:55 AM > > > > > > Subject: [korgpolyex] Maudio midi controller problems.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> > > > > > Ok, this one has me stumped. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a Maudio Oxygen 8 V2 that I just picked up. > > > > > > > > > > > > For some odd reason, I cant get the 8 assignable knobs to send proper CC messages. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hooked up to the HAWK either direct or indirect thru the PC. I can see the messages in MIDIOX go thru fine. But the HAWK only partially responds to any of the knobs.. it's like it hears it for a moment, then suddenly does not hear it. > > > > > > If I turn the knob really slow, I can get more reaction from the HAWK, but it's still jittery. > > > > > > > > > > > > Odd thing is, the assignable Mod Wheel (next to the pitch wheel). Will send a CC flawlessly.. no jitters or problems whatsoever. > > > > > > > > > > > > So what would cause this? Again, I can see it sending all the messages in MIDI OX, but HAWK seems to only pick up part of the msg stream when using one of the 8 knobs. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do know that the very last knob has an issue where it wants to deviate to "33" when it is set to 0-127. I have disabled it, I suspect it has a cold joint or defective pot. The others dont act like that. > > > > > > Looking at the PCB, it appears each knob has it's own path to the main CPU (tiny stamp sized PIC thing). > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? I was hoping to splice in a organ pedalset into the keyboard matrix later on.. but this knob issue has me scratching my head. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Blaine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Message
Re: Maudio midi controller problems..
2013-08-04 by bimmerfan222