Korg Poly800/EX800 Users

I assume you're running the latest boot version 1.95 and software version 2.53 - correct?

If not, you should upgrade.

I just tested my own Poly using MIDI-OX. When an original sysex dump is received in full the HAWK will output F0 42 21 7E 01 01 F7 . If you don't get that, then your HAWK did not receive the syx dump intact.


I used Low Level Output Buffers of size 256 and number of them 64 with 10 milliseconds between buffers.

64 x 8 byte buffers is just not big enough.


You certainly should not be seeing numbers all over the displays, that makes no sense at all.

Mike



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 From: Dave Mooney <dave.e.mooney@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Hawk-800 / Atomahawk Preset Query
 

  
Cheers Mike, 

I've just tried what you said and have gotten better results however I am still having issues:

If I set the sysex at the levels suggested in the manual I get "crash" and the synth reboots. When set slower again to 64 X 8-byte buffers with 2000ms delay between them i get one of the following numbers cycling on the display every 5-10 seconds:
	* {12,11,13,23,13,24,13,23,21,23,24,21,14,23,21,13,11,12,23,28,11,16,11,13,28,11,28,15,28,11,28.13,28,11,24,11,22,28,11,28,11,28,11,12,28,11,18,16,11,14,16,12,11,18,26,11,12,15,11,27,17,25,24,21,18,12,15,11….etc}
There is no sysex output from the synth after all has been sent, so im not sure if the patch are properly copied. When i reboot the synth many of these factory patches are working however many are not also some seem to have fm applied?
	* 16,17 are noise
	* 22-26 are silent
	* 35-36 are just noise
	* 37 is an LFO filter
	* 38 is noise
	* 43 is almost silent
	* 44 is silent
	* 45 is silent
	* 51 is noise
	* 54 is noise
	* 56 is noise
	* 57 is noise
	* 58 is noise
	* 61 is noise
	* 62 is almost silent
	* 63 is silent
	* 64 is silent
	* 72 is sound with a lots random noise over the top
	* 73 is silent
	* 74 sounds like it has fm applied?
	* 83 sounds like it has fm applied?
	* 85 is again noise
	* 86 sounds like it has fm applied?
	* 88 more noise
Any ideas what could be causing this problem or could you suggest a way to proceed from here? Also just to clarify only the 4 banks of patches available from sourceforge are to be installed using the Tools>patch mode and only Poly-800mk1/EX-800 sysex dumps are sent in normal operating mode right? Thanks again Mike!

Regards
Dave



On 3 September 2012 14:23, korgpolyex800 <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:

 
>  
>I am guessing that you're trying to use Tools mode to receive the EX-800 or MK2 sysex dump. That would of course make some sense and indeed I intend to rewrite the code to do just that but at the moment you send the EX-800 and MK2 dumps to the HAWK while in normal operating mode ("11 P").
>
>Give that a go. And yes, the owners manual is a little confusing on that issue. But the good news is that when I make the change to put it into Tools mode the operating will be much better at handling the bulk dumps.
>
>Mike
>
>
>--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Dave Mooney <dave.e.mooney@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike,
>> 
>> Thanks for getting back to me. Okay so the first issue was solved by
>> getting a new midi interface. My AKAI MPK 25 wasn't sending sysex properly
>> for some reason so i got an M-Audio midisport and it did the trick so i'm
>> able to send the patch banks over to the poly-800 and receieve "Good"
>> messages. I didn't realise there were differences between MIDI interfaces
>> in terms of kind of message they could send properly but apparently there
>> is........ anyway thanks your advice helped solve that problem.
>> 
>> Second issue however is stil unresolved. Whether it's that the source sysex
>> file im using is wrong or something else I'm not sure but im getting
>> 'error2' messages when i try to send the sysex files i have. You had a
>> discussion with a guy in 2009 (
>> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/korgpolyex/message/3927) in which you
>> link to a file that appears to work however the link is dead now. Could you
>> repost that file if possible so i could try use that. I've configured
>> MIDI-OX to run with 128-bit buffers, 64 of them with a delay of 2000ms
>> between them, but from the very first moment i start to send the messages I
>> get the error message. Is it definitely possible to send MK2 or EX-800
>> dumps to a Modified Mark 1? Thanks a million!
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
> On 2 September 2012 18:50, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...> wrote:
>> 
>> > **
>
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave,
>> >
>> > Q: I found when I tried to reload all the patch bank sysex files to the 4
>> > patch banks using  tools mode --> patch mode the display changes to PATCHL
>> > but then doesn't change from that. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong
>> > or what I might try to get around this?
>> >
>> > A: Check that you're not sending spurious MIDI data along with the sysex.
>> > HAWK doesn't like that. What make and model MIDI interface are you using?
>> > Are you using Windows XP? It has a bad MIDI driver.
>> >
>> > Q: The second issue is that I want to re-install the original factory
>> > patch library from the mk1 or mk2. Is this possible using the mk2 or ex800
>> > sysex files? As in provided I figure out why I cannot upload patches,
>> > should it then be possible to upload the mk-2 or ex-800 sysex patch dumps
>> > to restore the factory presets on my modified mk1?
>> >
>> > A: Follow the instructions in the owners manual very carefully. You cannot
>> > send the EX-800 or MK2 sysex dumps too fast to the HAWK. It will choke.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>
> >   ------------------------------
>> > *From:* Dave Mooney <dave.e.mooney@...>
>> > *To:* korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
>> > *Sent:* Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:19 AM
>> > *Subject:* [korgpolyex] Hawk-800 / Atomahawk Preset Query
>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi, I bought a Hawk-800 and Atomahawk mod in July and just received my
>> > modified poly-800 mk1 back from the synth technician yesterday. I've run
>> > into a couple of issues and I'm just looking for advice on what to do.
>> >
>> > When I got the poly-800 back yesterday I could get sound from it and move
>> > between the patches. Many of the patches sounded good though others
>> > featured heavy fm and thinking that patch bank installed by the synth tech
>> > may have been the fm-800 patch bank, I sought to install the other patch
>> > banks.
>> >
>> > I found when I tried to reload all the patch bank sysex files to the 4
>> > patch banks using  tools mode --> patch mode the display changes to PATCHL
>> > but then doesn't change from that. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong
>> > or what I might try to get around this?
>> >
>> > The second issue is that I want to re-install the original factory patch
>> > library from the mk1 or mk2. Is this possible using the mk2 or ex800 sysex
>> > files? As in provided I figure out why I cannot upload patches, should it
>> > then be possible to upload the mk-2 or ex-800 sysex patch dumps to restore
>> > the factory presets on my modified mk1?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>>
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