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Re: [korgpolyex] Broken MSM5232?

2010-07-09 by Michael Hawkins

Hello Johan,

since you have an EX-800, you can also send a MIDI bulk sysex dump message to 
your EX-800 (in case the audio method becomes too painful or difficult).

Go into the files section, then section 2) EX-800 then "Patches and Patch Dumps" 
then download EX800.syx which is the original Korg EX-800 sysex dump file.

Best of luck.

Mike.





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From: Johan Nilsson <ur.johan.nilsson@...>
To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 4:27:49 AM
Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Broken MSM5232?

  
Thanks! I'll try this when I get home.

Just to verify:
This is the sound file I should send to the synth? 
Files > 1) Poly-800 > Patches and patch dumps > Audio Cassette of Original 
Patches.wav 

Does it matter if the battery is run out? In theory, could the battery be 
removed as long as the synth is powered on or should I replace the battery just 
to be sure?

Regards, Johan


2010/7/9 joe peak <lovgh2000@yahoo. com>

  
>Sorry......Didn't mean to copy link location on that audio cassette of original 
>patches .wav.....
>
> Do not click that link! just go to the files section and download the 
>file.......play it into the poly while having the poly loading the wav.........
>
>                                              
>                                        ;-P
>
>                                                             J.
>
>
>
>--- On Fri, 7/9/10, joe peak <lovgh2000@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
>>From: joe peak <lovgh2000@yahoo. com>
>>
>>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Broken MSM5232?
>>To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
>>Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 12:28 AM
>>
>>
>>  
>>If the batteries die out then the whole operation data is erased.  This could be 
>>the case with you. Reloading the Data originally was done by a cassette tape.  
>>You can find this data in  wave file format in the files section.  
>>
>>
>>
>>Files > 1)  Poly-800 > Patches and patch dumps
>>   Audio  Cassette of Original Patches.wav  
>>
>>
>>  The users manual in the file section will tell you how to load data to the 
>>EX-800.
>>
>>  Good luck and let us know if you fix it!!
>>
>>                                                                  J.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>--- On Thu, 7/8/10, Johan Nilsson <ur.johan.nilsson@ gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>From: Johan Nilsson <ur.johan.nilsson@ gmail.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Broken MSM5232?
>>>To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
>>>
>>>Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 11:57  PM
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>Thanks for the super fast replies!
>>>
>>>
>>>I have tried to program a basic patch but since the synth is new to me I am not 
>>>100% I made it correct (just 99%). I have tried all patches in memory though.
>>>
>>>
>>>I am not sure it is a software problem and I have not tried the battery thing. 
>>>Good points. Please give me a hint on what to upload and how.
>>>
>>>
>>>Regards Johan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>2010/7/9 Daniel Forró <dan.for@tiscali. cz>
>>>
>>>  
>>>>Maybe not relevant, but are you sure it's not the software problem before 
>>>>checking the hardware? Isn't there a garbage in RAM? I would start with loading 
>>>>the proper data. As for hardware, maybe check the internal battery. If the 
>>>>voltage is OK, sometimes with Korg machines battery disconnecting helped, as RAM 
>>>>reset. Then connect again, load data and it's possible it will work...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Daniel Forro 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 9 Jul 2010, at 2:54 PM, Johan Nilsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been browsing around this mailinglist but haven't found a solution to my 
>>>>>problem (but some help to get this far!). However, I think it is the right place 
>>>>>to post my questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I got an EX-800 that my friend found in the garbage. He has kept it for some 
>>>>>time and tested it the last time one year ago when he says it worked fine. He is 
>>>>>not very much into making music and thought I would have more use for it. The 
>>>>>user interface (buttons and LED displays seem to work fine), but I don't get 
>>>>>much sound out of it. With some settings I get some low level filtered noise.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>After checking the MIDI in with bank change messages I opened the device. Looks 
>>>>>very clean inside. I have backtracked the circuit to the MSM5232. I just have a 
>>>>>mutimeter right now, but this is what I got so far:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>- The outputs (2'-1 ... 16'-2) of MSM5232 (pin 28-31 and 33-36) are constantly 
>>>>>4.6V no matter if keys are pressed or not.
>>>>>- The control inputs (E0 ... E7) of MSM5232 (pin 24-27 and pin 37-40) give -4.3V 
>>>>>before key on and -0.3V when key on.
>>>>>- The clock signals (clk1 and clk2) seem to be OK. DC 2.5V and about 1MHz.
>>>>>- VDD1 (pin 3) = 5.0V
>>>>>- VDD2 (pin 41) = 5.0V
>>>>>- VSS1 (pin 21) = 0.0V
>>>>>- VSS2 (pin 23) = -5.0V
>>>>>- VSS3 (pin 32) = -5.0V
>>>>>- WR (pin 12) of MSM5232 is 5.0V no matter how I send notes. I cannot see any 
>>>>>pulses since I don't have a scope. If this signal is active low, I guess the 
>>>>>pulses are to short to affect the DC reading. I should meassure this with a 
>>>>>scope, but this seems like my small hope for non broken MSM5232. In the 
>>>>>datasheet for the MSM5232 it looks like this signal should be 2.4 - 0.8 V, am I 
>>>>>right?
>>>>>- 8 bit data bus (D0 ... D7) of MSM5232 (pin 4-11) is hard to measure without 
>>>>>scope, but there is some action going on when keys are pressed. They wobble 
>>>>>around 2.5V. Should messure these with a scope to see if they look like digital 
>>>>>control signals, but I have no reason to expect other than that they are 
>>>>>healthy.
>>>>>- ALE of MSM5232 (pin 13) has a steady signal of high frequency with a average 
>>>>>voltage of 1.5V. Seems right.
>>>>>- RST of MSM5232 has a voltage of about 4.4V that lowers some mV when keys are 
>>>>>pressed. Guess those are correct reset signals and the signal is active high.
>>>>>- Address inputs (A0 ... A3) of MSM5232 (pin 14-17) are about 2.5V and change 
>>>>>some mV when keyes are pressed.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Anybody have some clues? Did I miss something? Is my MSM5232 broken or is it 
>>>>>possible that the input to WR is messed up?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thankful for any ideas!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards Johan Nilsson
>>>>
>>> 
>> 
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