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Re: Jupiter vs Poly

2009-02-11 by serotonic_sound

Ok, maybe it was "expensive plastic construction", but plastic none
the less.  It really feels like a cheap toy compared to other
synths...All my other synths are made of heavy gauge metal.

If you launched an old dx or roland and a poly-800 out of cannons on a
collision course...well...lets just say my money is definitely not on
the korg...

BUT, you can wear it with a strap! Yikes.

-Tim

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, LARRY HAWKE <gorgarh@...> wrote:
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> I'm not so sure I agree with the "cheap plastic" construction
opinion of the Poly-800.
> Mine is at least 20 years old, and it's in near-perfect condition
with wear only near the joystick.
> I think it's very well constructed, and is at least as sturdy as my R3.
> 
> Gor
> "Just my opinion....I've been wrong...before!" - Dennis Miller
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> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> From: korgpolyex800@...
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:01:11 -0800
> Subject: Re: [korgpolyex] Re: Jupiter vs Poly
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>             Well, then don't do anything at all but rather go hang
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> No, I have never had the pleasure of playing a Jupiter-8. I guess
there's a mystique for me that the Jupiter-8 is some sort of prophetic
messiah type of synthesizer. Wizard of Jupiter-8 kinda thing.
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> The way you're describing it sounds like the Jupiter-8 is made out
of play doh!
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> "flying by the seat of your faders" - very, very funny!
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> "I'll set up an A/B test of the Jupiter-8 sounding its brightest vs.
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> the Poly800 once I get it back in one piece and you'll be amazed
trust me."
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> But will I be amazed in a good way?
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> Mike.
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> From: serotonic_sound <sero-tonic@...>
> To: korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:16:30 PM
> Subject: [korgpolyex] Re: Jupiter vs Poly
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>             > OK, I love the Poly but you are going to have to
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> the Jupiter-8 is not capable of making which sounds.
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> Actually, I don't have to do anything, but I will... :p
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> > What sounds can the Poly make that a Jupiter-8 cannot?
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> Have you ever played a Jupiter-8 for any length of time?
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> Seriously, plain and simple the Jupter-8 is pure creamy liquid awesome
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> drippy oooze, deep, dark and complex.
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> The Jupiter-6 sounds totally different, the architecture is basically
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> the same so it sounds similar, but the components are totally
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> different.  It is really, totally, totally, fully, different
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> sounding...way way zingier and brighter--more modern, kind of
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> electro-psi sounding by nature and it only has a 24db filter which is
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> too bad...but I still love it...
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> The poly-800 when you open up the filter and stack all the square
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> sassy) is like this rad kind of cheap but still massively huge buzzy
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> distorted zippy sound that the Jupiter-8 can't even get close too
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> making...By "close", realize that I'm speaking in the company of a
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> bunch of old synth fanatics. :)
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> Though, trust me if somebody held a shotgun to my Jupiters I'd plead
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> with them to take me out out first, or use the poly-800 as a shield
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> all the while cursing its cheap plastic construction ;)
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> > Do you have any recorded audio of these sounds that we could
listen to?
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> I just got my poly-800 a day ago, and I'm working on the mods (so far
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> so good), but like I said I'll make a bunch of patches and upload
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> them.... You sort of have to make patches with this thing, instead of
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> just flying by the seat of your faders---because of the horrible
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> Anyway, I don't often use very complex sounding patches for the music
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> I make...And I like trying to pull the distinctive pure sound of the
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> raw oscillators and filters from different synths...
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> I'll set up an A/B test of the Jupiter-8 sounding its brightest vs.
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> the Poly800 once I get it back in one piece and you'll be amazed
trust me.
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> > From: serotonic_sound <sero-tonic@ ...>
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> > To: korgpolyex@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:47:25 AM
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> > Subject: [korgpolyex] Hello poly-800 world, my story, ( and missing
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> joystick. :(  )
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> > Hey folks, I'm really glad I found this forum!  Nice work everyone.!
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> > EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: I love this synth! But, I'm missing the joystick
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> and need some info 
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> > on rigging up some resistors to run in tune without it.
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> > (Ok first, I'm not totally illiterate, just really excited by
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> good/fun hardware synths)
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> > So, I recently was given a tattered old poly-800 mk1 from a
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> friend...Free is a really good 
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> > price!
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> > I was really skeptical about this unit when I read about it and even
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> more skeptical when I 
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> > got my hands on it and was loading it into my car because it felt
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> like a total cheap piece 
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> > of sh**t.  Plastic unit with crappy buttons and that stupid
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> programming reference stencil 
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> > area that should have been filled with a million knobs and
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> switches...anyway. ..
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> > I got it home, hacked together a power supply to turn it on...and
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> you know the 
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> > story...nothing, no sound....... ....oh wait if I hold the keys down
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> I heard some kind of low 
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> > fequency something coming in on a really slow envelope...I
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> think...So I quickly referenced 
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> > the manual, which amazingly was part of the deal, to put it into
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> programming mode and 
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> > set up everything to make a simple square wave, unfiltered, sane
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> adsr settings...and sure 
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> > enough...success. ..major success!!!  It actually worked...nice!
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> > Oh dear, then I read about the battery issue in the manual....WHAT?
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> NO INTERNAL 
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> > BATTERY? You must be kidding me, seriously? come on...so I unplugged
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> the dc power, 
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> > plugged it back in, sure enough, everything was erased...no really,
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> come on, really? 
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> > seriously? come on korg...really?  YES REALLY. 
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> > First order of business 3v lithium mod... (THANKS GUYS!)...works
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> like a charm... Yes one 
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> > step closer to a "real synth"...
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> > Anyway, this synth, for certain applications, absolutely kills!  I
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> love it to death...the factory 
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> > presets are ridiculously bad...seriously all of them (even patch 15
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> ;) This thing sounds 
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> > best when you open it right up loud and pure...I REALLY, REALLY,
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> love the oscillators on 
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> > this thing...and the filter sounds really good, but I'm going to do
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> the 12db mod asap, I 
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> > don't like 24db filters personally for the music I make...I prefer
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> the more acidy sound of 
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> > 12db...
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> > I have a Jupiter-8 and a Juptiter-6, and I hate to admit it, but
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> this thing will make killer 
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> > sounds not possible on those two machines...very complimentary.
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> ..Retro Electro 
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> > madness!!!!! ...
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> > Maybe you can tell...I love old keyboards... YYEEEEAAAAAAAHHH
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> HHHH... <happy dance>
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> > I'll upload some good "housey-technoy- elctroey- acidy-discoey-
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> psy-ee" patches for 
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> > everyone soon...
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> > Ok, long, long, story short. (Thanks for listening).. .
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> > THE REAL MEAT OF THIS MESSAGE:
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> > I'm missing the joystick unit completely, its not just broken, its
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> gone, the whole unit...  I 
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> > can stare down the square hole and see the connectors hanging there.
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> > 1) I think the pitch of the unit is being thrown off because there's
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> no resistance on the 
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> > pitch mod joystick, it's sounds about 5 tones off, yeah?
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> > 2) Would somebody be kind enough to tell me what resistors I should
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> wire up to what 
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> > leads to simulate the joystick being in the center? Please?  I'll
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> buy you a case of beer or 
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> > lunch, or write you a song, or something... I promise.
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> > 3) Does anybody want to sell me a joystick unit?  or know where I
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> can get one?
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> > Peace everybody, happy synthing... :) :) :) :) :) :)
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