I think the MK2 might actually be a potential candidate for this kit but it will be a bit more complex to do. Since I don't own a MK2, I'll have to start thinking about bidding on one. Unless, someone wants to jump in and try themselves with remote assistance from me but that would be a real gamble. --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@...> wrote: > > The ROM is socketed. Thanks for looking at this Mike!!!! > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" > <korgpolyex800@> wrote: > > > > Hi MK2 owners, > > > > I've had a look at the schematics of the MK2 (I should have done > this > > a while ago) and it looks like we could fit the new mod kit into the > > MK2. Can someone tell me if the ROM is in a socket? > > > > Mike. > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "synthparts" <synthparts@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, I have the MkII service manual (hard copy only) as well as 2 > > > Poly-800 mkIIs. If you want me to check something lemme know... > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" > <korgpolyex800@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a copy of the MKII service manual or schematic? > > > > > > > > Because that would be a big help in working out if the kit > could be > > > > fitted into it. > > > > > > > > I once saw the inside of a Poly 800 MKII and it had a much > larger ROM > > > > installed and a totally brand new board where the ROM lived. > The ROM > > > > socket on main board had jumper cables running over to the new > board. > > > > It was quite a mess. > > > > > > > > The schematic diagram of the MKII would put the question to > rest. > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The firmware is here in the files section. > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander" > <arf_hotdogdeity@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd definitely like to try to make it work. > > > > > > Does anyone have a ROM image of the MKII? The biggest > difference > > > > > seems > > > > > > to be the digital delay line instead of the chorus. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" > > <korgpolyex800@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like your humour. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I ever buy a MKII I will look at the design and see if > it > > > > > could be > > > > > > > fitted into it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But the kit only works in the EX800 and Poly MK1. It does > not > > > > > work in > > > > > > > the MKII. Sorry :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander" > > <arf_hotdogdeity@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People spend a lot more than that on glitchy hardware. > > Look at > > > > > the > > > > > > > > SIDStation. It's a crashy glitchy mess but people still > > bought > > > > > them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want one of these for my MKII :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins > > > > > <korgpolyex800@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only name I have on those first five boards is > Mike! LOL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if they work straight out of the box, which would > be a > > > > > miracle, > > > > > > > > then you never know what your luck might be. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm certainly glad my kit is getting so much > attention. The > > > > > real > > > > > > > > question is going to be "how many people want to spend > 100 > > > > > bucks on a > > > > > > > > kit that gives you glitchy portamento mono mode"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcus Wilson <JB@> > wrote: > > have > > > > > you > > > > > > > > got names against those 5 boards yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, I would like to be included in the first > batch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcus Wilson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/12/2007, at 9:57 PM, korgpolyex800 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Atom, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with everything you said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i) I'll keep portamento even if it is glitchy. > > > > > > > > > ii) I'll change the Poly key to be the mode key so > that each > > > > > > time you > > > > > > > > > press the Poly key you switch to the next mode (Poly, > > Chord, > > > > > Hold, > > > > > > > > > Mono, Poly...). > > > > > > > > > iii) there will be CC's to change the mode too. > > > > > > > > > iv) for visual indication P for poly is already used > so we > > > > > need to > > > > > > > > > come up with a letter that would indicate portamento > mono > > > > > mode. I > > > > > > > > > thought "S" would work but it looks like a "5". Anyone > > got any > > > > > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Further testing last night revealed that the bend is > so > > slow > > > > > to > > > > > > react > > > > > > > > > to changes at higher slide rates that the portamento > > rapidly > > > > > turns > > > > > > > > > into stepped DCO semitone changes. So it sounds best > at > > > > > really slow > > > > > > > > > rates where you glide from one octave to another over > a > > period > > > > > > of 5 to > > > > > > > > > 10 seconds. Even then you can still hear the little > > glitches. > > > > > My > > > > > > last > > > > > > > > > option now is to try to speed up the master clock > > reaction to > > > > > bend > > > > > > > > > changes and try to improve the sample and hold > circuit. I > > > > > wish I > > > > > > had a > > > > > > > > > frequency counter and oscilloscope right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, when I run into walls like this I take a break so > > that I > > > > > > can come > > > > > > > > > back to it with a fresh perspective so I think I'll > > leave it > > > > > all > > > > > > alone > > > > > > > > > as I have other pressing work to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish those 5 boards would get here soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher > <atom@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, korgpolyex800 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could rewrite the code to toggle between Poly > and > > mono > > > > > mode > > > > > > > > > using the > > > > > > > > > > > Poly key. Another way might be to make the Poly > key the > > > > > selector > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > Poly, Mono, Chord and Hold mode. Each time you > press the > > > > > > poly key > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > move you into the next mode. That would free up > the > > chord > > > > > and > > > > > > > hold > > > > > > > > > > > buttons to be used for selecting global mode and > > extended > > > > > > > parameter > > > > > > > > > > > entry modes (or other things if we decide to add > more). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you all think? > > > > > > > > > > ================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that would work, since the modes are (or can be) > > > > > exclusive... > > > > > > > > > probably not > > > > > > > > > > everyone on the list has a PC1600 (or similar), but > i'd be > > > > > > happy as > > > > > > > > > long > > > > > > > > > > as i can select the modes using standard MIDI CCs. > do you > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > you'd be > > > > > > > > > > able to provide visual indication of which mode is > > currently > > > > > > > selected? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I now need to determine if the glitch is caused > by the > > > > > master > > > > > > > clock > > > > > > > > > > > being incapable of tracking the output of the DAC > > when a > > > > > square > > > > > > > > wave > > > > > > > > > > > edge change occurs in the bend or if the DAC > sample > > hold > > > > > circuit > > > > > > > > > is too > > > > > > > > > > > slow. If it's just the sample and hold then I may > be > > able > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > reduce the > > > > > > > > > > > sample hold capacitor to improve the highest > possible > > > > > rate of > > > > > > > > > change. If > > > > > > > > > > > it is due to the master clock not being able to > change > > > > > > frequencies > > > > > > > > > fast > > > > > > > > > > > then I think we might be out of luck. So much so > > that the > > > > > only > > > > > > > > way to > > > > > > > > > > > get good portamento would be to build a new > master clock > > > > > > that was > > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > to slide the full five octaves. > > > > > > > > > > ================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you'll come up with a different way to > approach the > > > > > > problem..? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even if it's glitchy, i'm sure it's still usable... > i was > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > talking to > > > > > > > > > > tom (the guy who i made the first moog-slayer for) > and he > > > > > > > reminded me > > > > > > > > > > about a patch i wrote for him on a CZ-101... > listening > > to it > > > > > > > > > straight from > > > > > > > > > > the CZ it sounded kinda cold and very digital, but > in the > > > > > > > > foreground of > > > > > > > > > > the mix and with some reverb (we probably used a > BOSS SE- > > > > > 50) it > > > > > > > > sounded > > > > > > > > > > sweet and analog and warm and huge. years later it > still > > > > > impressed > > > > > > > > > him. so > > > > > > > > > > i'd be interested in it even if it is glitchy... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if you "fix" it in a later release, leave the > > option of > > > > > > > using the > > > > > > > > > > glitchy version... seriously... one never knows what > > genres > > > > > of > > > > > > music > > > > > > > > > might > > > > > > > > > > be formed from an obscure glitch... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ...atom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________ > > > > > > > > > > http://atom.smasher.org/ > > > > > > > > > > 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "What luck for rulers, that men do not think." > > > > > > > > > > -- Adolf Hitler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: The MK2 and the new kit
2007-12-19 by korgpolyex800