Does anyone have a copy of the MKII service manual or schematic? Because that would be a big help in working out if the kit could be fitted into it. I once saw the inside of a Poly 800 MKII and it had a much larger ROM installed and a totally brand new board where the ROM lived. The ROM socket on main board had jumper cables running over to the new board. It was quite a mess. The schematic diagram of the MKII would put the question to rest. Mike. --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "narfman96" <narfman96@...> wrote: > > The firmware is here in the files section. > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander" <arf_hotdogdeity@> > wrote: > > > > I'd definitely like to try to make it work. > > Does anyone have a ROM image of the MKII? The biggest difference > seems > > to be the digital delay line instead of the chorus. > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "korgpolyex800" <korgpolyex800@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > I like your humour. :-) > > > > > > If I ever buy a MKII I will look at the design and see if it > could be > > > fitted into it. > > > > > > But the kit only works in the EX800 and Poly MK1. It does not > work in > > > the MKII. Sorry :-( > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander" <arf_hotdogdeity@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > People spend a lot more than that on glitchy hardware. Look at > the > > > > SIDStation. It's a crashy glitchy mess but people still bought > them :) > > > > > > > > I want one of these for my MKII :) > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins > <korgpolyex800@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The only name I have on those first five boards is Mike! LOL > > > > > > > > > > But if they work straight out of the box, which would be a > miracle, > > > > then you never know what your luck might be. :-) > > > > > > > > > > I'm certainly glad my kit is getting so much attention. The > real > > > > question is going to be "how many people want to spend 100 > bucks on a > > > > kit that gives you glitchy portamento mono mode"? > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > Marcus Wilson <JB@> wrote: have > you > > > > got names against those 5 boards yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, I would like to be included in the first batch > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marcus Wilson > > > > > > > > > > On 11/12/2007, at 9:57 PM, korgpolyex800 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Atom, > > > > > > > > > > I agree with everything you said. > > > > > > > > > > i) I'll keep portamento even if it is glitchy. > > > > > ii) I'll change the Poly key to be the mode key so that each > > time you > > > > > press the Poly key you switch to the next mode (Poly, Chord, > Hold, > > > > > Mono, Poly...). > > > > > iii) there will be CC's to change the mode too. > > > > > iv) for visual indication P for poly is already used so we > need to > > > > > come up with a letter that would indicate portamento mono > mode. I > > > > > thought "S" would work but it looks like a "5". Anyone got any > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > Further testing last night revealed that the bend is so slow > to > > react > > > > > to changes at higher slide rates that the portamento rapidly > turns > > > > > into stepped DCO semitone changes. So it sounds best at > really slow > > > > > rates where you glide from one octave to another over a period > > of 5 to > > > > > 10 seconds. Even then you can still hear the little glitches. > My > > last > > > > > option now is to try to speed up the master clock reaction to > bend > > > > > changes and try to improve the sample and hold circuit. I > wish I > > had a > > > > > frequency counter and oscilloscope right now. > > > > > > > > > > But, when I run into walls like this I take a break so that I > > can come > > > > > back to it with a fresh perspective so I think I'll leave it > all > > alone > > > > > as I have other pressing work to do. > > > > > > > > > > Wish those 5 boards would get here soon. > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, korgpolyex800 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could rewrite the code to toggle between Poly and mono > mode > > > > > using the > > > > > > > Poly key. Another way might be to make the Poly key the > selector > > > > for > > > > > > > Poly, Mono, Chord and Hold mode. Each time you press the > > poly key > > > > > would > > > > > > > move you into the next mode. That would free up the chord > and > > > hold > > > > > > > buttons to be used for selecting global mode and extended > > > parameter > > > > > > > entry modes (or other things if we decide to add more). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you all think? > > > > > > ================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > that would work, since the modes are (or can be) > exclusive... > > > > > probably not > > > > > > everyone on the list has a PC1600 (or similar), but i'd be > > happy as > > > > > long > > > > > > as i can select the modes using standard MIDI CCs. do you > think > > > > > you'd be > > > > > > able to provide visual indication of which mode is currently > > > selected? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I now need to determine if the glitch is caused by the > master > > > clock > > > > > > > being incapable of tracking the output of the DAC when a > square > > > > wave > > > > > > > edge change occurs in the bend or if the DAC sample hold > circuit > > > > > is too > > > > > > > slow. If it's just the sample and hold then I may be able > to > > > > > reduce the > > > > > > > sample hold capacitor to improve the highest possible > rate of > > > > > change. If > > > > > > > it is due to the master clock not being able to change > > frequencies > > > > > fast > > > > > > > then I think we might be out of luck. So much so that the > only > > > > way to > > > > > > > get good portamento would be to build a new master clock > > that was > > > > > able > > > > > > > to slide the full five octaves. > > > > > > ================== > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you'll come up with a different way to approach the > > problem..? > > > > > > > > > > > > even if it's glitchy, i'm sure it's still usable... i was > just > > > > > talking to > > > > > > tom (the guy who i made the first moog-slayer for) and he > > > reminded me > > > > > > about a patch i wrote for him on a CZ-101... listening to it > > > > > straight from > > > > > > the CZ it sounded kinda cold and very digital, but in the > > > > foreground of > > > > > > the mix and with some reverb (we probably used a BOSS SE- > 50) it > > > > sounded > > > > > > sweet and analog and warm and huge. years later it still > impressed > > > > > him. so > > > > > > i'd be interested in it even if it is glitchy... > > > > > > > > > > > > and if you "fix" it in a later release, leave the option of > > > using the > > > > > > glitchy version... seriously... one never knows what genres > of > > music > > > > > might > > > > > > be formed from an obscure glitch... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ...atom > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________ > > > > > > http://atom.smasher.org/ > > > > > > 762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > "What luck for rulers, that men do not think." > > > > > > -- Adolf Hitler > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Never miss a thing. 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The kit and the MKII - need the schematic diagram
2007-12-14 by korgpolyex800
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