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Re: Enabling portamento mono mode

2007-12-12 by Alexander

People spend a lot more than that on glitchy hardware. Look at the
SIDStation. It's a crashy glitchy mess but people still bought them :)

I want one of these for my MKII :) 

--- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Michael Hawkins <korgpolyex800@...>
wrote:
>
> The only name I have on those first five boards is Mike! LOL
> 
> But if they work straight out of the box, which would be a miracle,
then you never know what your luck might be. :-)
> 
> I'm certainly glad my kit is getting so much attention. The real
question is going to be "how many people want to spend 100 bucks on a
kit that gives you glitchy portamento mono mode"?
> 
> Mike.
> 
> Marcus Wilson <JB@...> wrote:                               have you
got names against those 5 boards yet?
> 
> 
> If not, I would like to be included in the first batch 
> 
> 
> best regards,
> 
> 
> Marcus Wilson
> 
> On 11/12/2007, at 9:57 PM, korgpolyex800 wrote:
> 
> Hi Atom,
> 
> I agree with everything you said.
> 
> i) I'll keep portamento even if it is glitchy.
> ii) I'll change the Poly key to be the mode key so that each time you
> press the Poly key you switch to the next mode (Poly, Chord, Hold,
> Mono, Poly...).
> iii) there will be CC's to change the mode too.
> iv) for visual indication P for poly is already used so we need to
> come up with a letter that would indicate portamento mono mode. I
> thought "S" would work but it looks like a "5". Anyone got any
> suggestions?
> 
> Further testing last night revealed that the bend is so slow to react
> to changes at higher slide rates that the portamento rapidly turns
> into stepped DCO semitone changes. So it sounds best at really slow
> rates where you glide from one octave to another over a period of 5 to
> 10 seconds. Even then you can still hear the little glitches. My last
> option now is to try to speed up the master clock reaction to bend
> changes and try to improve the sample and hold circuit. I wish I had a
> frequency counter and oscilloscope right now.
> 
> But, when I run into walls like this I take a break so that I can come
> back to it with a fresh perspective so I think I'll leave it all alone
> as I have other pressing work to do.
> 
> Wish those 5 boards would get here soon.
> 
> Mike.
> 
> --- In korgpolyex@yahoogroups.com, Atom Smasher <atom@> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, korgpolyex800 wrote:
> > 
> > > I could rewrite the code to toggle between Poly and mono mode
> using the 
> > > Poly key. Another way might be to make the Poly key the selector
for 
> > > Poly, Mono, Chord and Hold mode. Each time you press the poly key
> would 
> > > move you into the next mode. That would free up the chord and hold 
> > > buttons to be used for selecting global mode and extended parameter 
> > > entry modes (or other things if we decide to add more).
> > >
> > > What do you all think?
> > ================================
> > 
> > that would work, since the modes are (or can be) exclusive...
> probably not 
> > everyone on the list has a PC1600 (or similar), but i'd be happy as
> long 
> > as i can select the modes using standard MIDI CCs. do you think
> you'd be 
> > able to provide visual indication of which mode is currently selected?
> > 
> > 
> > > I now need to determine if the glitch is caused by the master clock 
> > > being incapable of tracking the output of the DAC when a square
wave 
> > > edge change occurs in the bend or if the DAC sample hold circuit
> is too 
> > > slow. If it's just the sample and hold then I may be able to
> reduce the 
> > > sample hold capacitor to improve the highest possible rate of
> change. If 
> > > it is due to the master clock not being able to change frequencies
> fast 
> > > then I think we might be out of luck. So much so that the only
way to 
> > > get good portamento would be to build a new master clock that was
> able 
> > > to slide the full five octaves.
> > ==================
> > 
> > maybe you'll come up with a different way to approach the problem..?
> > 
> > even if it's glitchy, i'm sure it's still usable... i was just
> talking to 
> > tom (the guy who i made the first moog-slayer for) and he reminded me 
> > about a patch i wrote for him on a CZ-101... listening to it
> straight from 
> > the CZ it sounded kinda cold and very digital, but in the
foreground of 
> > the mix and with some reverb (we probably used a BOSS SE-50) it
sounded 
> > sweet and analog and warm and huge. years later it still impressed
> him. so 
> > i'd be interested in it even if it is glitchy...
> > 
> > and if you "fix" it in a later release, leave the option of using the 
> > glitchy version... seriously... one never knows what genres of music
> might 
> > be formed from an obscure glitch...
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > ...atom
> > 
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> > -- Adolf Hitler
> >
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