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Re: k1rII fault ?

2015-12-23 by domgoold@...

hi guys, thanks for quick response ;o)
hi Steve, yep, the same...
yeah, so i checked the headphone out, same deal.
i've emailed the vendor to find out if this was known about
before postage - it arrived in a freaky cardboard thing, not
quite a box (and still had cables plugged in, wdf...have neither
seen nor imagined that happening). was pretty sure i was getting
a mk1...

i'm hoping that the battery can't quite make it with restoring all params.
i bet if i look at the sysex sheet the names params come up early in the
list (hoho talking it up here, in desperate hope) - so i'm gonna have to rip
that m*tha out (face it,you can't desolder those things, they must use a
mig welder, i had to cut the contact pieces when i changed the battery in
the keyboard K1)

now here's the thing...i got the kbd K1 in one of those cashconvert places,
funkyjunk price, and evidently not highly-regarded by the kids who work there (suckers!)
(came with memory card, psu) - and i've been loving that lo-gloss, no filter, raw
digi thing, all the more since restoring patch storage, and thinking is the actual
keyboard+joystick part of the appeal/how you approach this thing. is it a k/board
i can live with?(i don't 'do' keyboards, for size+space reasons mainly)

i've got some stunning pad/string things on there now, -i'd pass up many things
to use some of those-, and oh, it does *great*...mallets :)
(in terms of the appeal of synths, how/why, you could almost lump it in with
analogs: "and here's easy-access raw digi"

so i'm thinking all this, and at the same time thinking meh, but it's got to go
(it isn't that big really, almost alpha juno1 size) and reading up on the racks,
thinking ok those are cheap and plentiful, i'll get one of those one day. read up
on K1/r/m/II, K4/r,xd-5..and there i see Polynominal saying the mkIIs have
' higher resolution'. somewhere else, someone says mk1s are 8bit, and IIs
are 16bit, as are K4. who said 12bit? so i'm unclear whether this is the
same machine. or if it really makes a difference. i do know that i like,within
reason/bounds, stuff i find on the K1 k/b, and its 'presence'. yes, it is additive:
check out how that sax patch is built. that's clever...and those 'iconic'
non-realistic sounds can work really well among other sounds.

so, then i saw this rack advertised and thought (ah check this out, never
happy, eh?) meh, it's only a mk1, but hey that's good, it's the 8bit one,
who needs multi outs and fx (thought the k1rII had fx as well, and yeah
multi-outs,excellent instead) - i started musing 'hey this thing is like a
multi-instance plugin...just stick it in rack and edit it remotely, and use
those parts, and get rid of the big keyboard gig - which isn't encouraging
multitimbral use much anyway...

and then i open the parcel and see...4 outs? hang on, look at front -absolutely
spotless- and it says k1rII - wa-heey! rejoicing, and at same time thinking
what about my 8bit synth, if this is 16bit? and seeing these f***en jacks sticking
out of it?!! chr*st...is it alright? it even had a midi cable plugged in(bent, thankfully
the socket is alright, it's the midi cable that's bent)

it sounds like crap. patches are semi-scrambled, crackling, with other wavecycles
appearing, loops going on. i'll record an audio demo of this condition later. patches
i made on the keyboard sound nothing like, a mess. impossible to make any
sound comparison, but...does it have the ooomph of the other one? i'm just
being paranoid. i got the 'better' model (more outs) and it's soooo clean, and i'm
stll not happy :) well, if i could get it to work...if it's got a fried CPU i won't be.
i'm still absorbing this fact, and placing my hopes on a change of battery. but no,
the keyboard worked+sounded fine with a dead battery. ...

damage in transit? damaged before shipping? hope not. battery battery..
it doesn't look like anyone's been in there trying to circuitbend it,either: *dustless*

APART FROM THAT (while i'm on the subject) *is there* a noticeable difference
in sound between mk1+2 due to a different bit rate/'resolution' ? (another new
synth myth) is it 8bit for K1, 12bit for K1II, 16bit for K4 ?

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