K5synth

hi,
today i received my k5m :)
it is not in very good shape - the backlight is dead and the knobs are
problematic sometimes - well it´s an old synth - i may will repair it
later a little..

however i like the sound of it. compared to my k5000 it sounds more
lofi and a tighter somehow. the filter resonance is cool and i like
the harmonic modulations. but the formantfilter is just a simple tool
i think - there is no modulation or envelope for it like on the k5k.
of course i have to learn more about programming it since it is a bit
different to the k5k. i guess a editor would help  me a little. does
any cool k5 editors excist? i am on pc ...

cheers
phono

Hi phono,

congratulations for having a new passion. ;)

At the files area here there is an editor iirc, 
if you read through the messages of this group
you'll find some help for getting an editor.

If you are (WIN)DOS-PC based, there is an easy way:

You can download the Atari emulator Steem from:
http://steem.atari.st/

and for patch editing you can install

Dr.Ts Editor for K5
http://tamw.atari-users.net/cage_art.htm

both are freely available.

There is a K5 editor you can purchase from Sound Quest.

Unfortunately IMO and AFAIK there are no 'cool' editors for the K5 at all.

All editors i have seen until now, are some kind of 'Bread and Butter'
stuff, which do their work at the computer instead of
using the K5 Panel.

My K5m is damaged too, the volume control is broken and it is
impossible to get a spare part.

cheers

Klaus

thanx for the info. i have a look at these editors later. how good are
they with programming the harmonics and the envelopes? would you say
an editor is faster or better then the frontpanel? 

sofar i had not much time for programming my k5 - so i am wondering
about the modulation about the harmonics. Is it possible to detune
single harmonics? modulate the pitch of specific harmonics. i only
found out about the amplitude modulation of each harmonic with the 4
envelopes...


what about those rom update? i am on 1.0? are there serious bugs - any
reason why i should update it maybe?

cu :)
phono 


--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "kjtkfuenf" <developer@k...> wrote:
> Hi phono,
> 
> congratulations for having a new passion. ;)
> 
> At the files area here there is an editor iirc, 
> if you read through the messages of this group
> you'll find some help for getting an editor.
> 
> If you are (WIN)DOS-PC based, there is an easy way:
> 
> You can download the Atari emulator Steem from:
> http://steem.atari.st/
> 
> and for patch editing you can install
> 
> Dr.Ts Editor for K5
> http://tamw.atari-users.net/cage_art.htm
> 
> both are freely available.
> 
> There is a K5 editor you can purchase from Sound Quest.
> 
> Unfortunately IMO and AFAIK there are no 'cool' editors for the K5
at all.

> 
> All editors i have seen until now, are some kind of 'Bread and Butter'
> stuff, which do their work at the computer instead of
> using the K5 Panel.
> 
> My K5m is damaged too, the volume control is broken and it is
> impossible to get a spare part.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Klaus

We have pretty much all the known K5 editors in the library. (well, I think
there might be one rare one we don't have. Very few K5's have working
backlights. None of mine do. In many ways, the K5 is a great synth, although
it is more cerebral than the K5000s, which gives you that gut-level knob
tweaking experience.  The layering ability of the K5 is superior to the
K5000s IMHO, as it produces some really rich sounds, I don't think heavy
layering really produces great sounds on the K5000.

As far as the modulation of the harmonics & odd harmonics, you can AM four
different groups of harmonics, but not LFO them, however, you can pitch
modulate one oscillator and not modulate the other, or use the loop function
in the pitch envelope to modulate each oscillator however you want. Another
interesting thing is to use full mode instead of twin, and tune the second
osc down a few octaves, that will get you some interesting  noise sounds.
You can get some pretty cool sounds. Check out my small library I uploaded
recently & of course, download Les's new K5 resynthesis program, that is
quite a powerful and interesting tool.

Joel


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hmm ok... i was told that it is possible to modulate the frequncy of
individual harmonics on k5. so this was a disinformation then. however
i think the k5 is nice addition to my k5000 since it has it´s own
charachter. i will print me the manual now and will dig the k5 now ;)


--- In k5synth@yahoogroups.com, "jbrave" <onephatcat@e...> wrote:
> We have pretty much all the known K5 editors in the library. (well,
I think
> there might be one rare one we don't have. Very few K5's have working
> backlights. None of mine do. In many ways, the K5 is a great synth,
although
> it is more cerebral than the K5000s, which gives you that gut-level knob
> tweaking experience.  The layering ability of the K5 is superior to the
> K5000s IMHO, as it produces some really rich sounds, I don't think heavy
> layering really produces great sounds on the K5000.
> 
> As far as the modulation of the harmonics & odd harmonics, you can
AM four
> different groups of harmonics, but not LFO them, however, you can pitch
> modulate one oscillator and not modulate the other, or use the loop
function
> in the pitch envelope to modulate each oscillator however you want.
Another
> interesting thing is to use full mode instead of twin, and tune the
second
> osc down a few octaves, that will get you some interesting  noise
sounds.
> You can get some pretty cool sounds. Check out my small library I
uploaded

> recently & of course, download Les's new K5 resynthesis program, that is
> quite a powerful and interesting tool.
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
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