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K5 sound transfer

2019-04-23 by Iain Tann

I appreciate all the feedback I am getting but am I missing something really simple.

To transfer sounds to a K5 what do you need to do other than go into the Midi section and set the following:

<SYSTEM>
TRS=1 , RCV=1
OMNI=ON

<EXCLUSIVE>
TRS=ON, RCV=ON

PGM=MULTI

Do I have to be in a specific screen to receive the sounds, is their anything else no matter how obvious that I am not doing??

Thanks

Iain.

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Re: [k5synth] K5 sound transfer

2019-04-23 by Lars Johansson

Iain,

Although I haven’t owned or used a K5 or K5m in 20 years, I downloaded the manual and read the chapter about dumping/loading data through Midi.

Just checking,

Have you connected both Midi in and out of the K5 to your source ? The K5/K5m needs a so called hand-shake process for recieving Blocks of patches.
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> 23 apr. 2019 kl. 22:28 skrev Iain Tann iain_tann@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>:
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> I appreciate all the feedback I am getting but am I missing something really simple.
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> To transfer sounds to a K5 what do you need to do other than go into the Midi section and set the following:
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> <SYSTEM>
> TRS=1 , RCV=1
> OMNI=ON
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> <EXCLUSIVE>
> TRS=ON, RCV=ON
>  
> PGM=MULTI
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> Do I have to be in a specific screen to receive the sounds, is their anything else no matter how obvious that I am not doing??
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Iain.
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Re: [k5synth] K5 sound transfer

2019-04-23 by Iain Tann

Yes. I have gone through that part of the manual so many times looking for something I missed.

I have been through the instruction for the Kfuenf software which suggested I need to be in the int/ext display for downloads to work and that didn’t help.

I have a feeling there was something else I have to do but remembering something from 25 years ago is a stretch.

Iain.

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On 23 Apr 2019, at 22:34, Lars Johansson waveterm@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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Iain,


Although I haven’t owned or used a K5 or K5m in 20 years, I downloaded the manual and read the chapter about dumping/loading data through Midi.

Just checking,

Have you connected both Midi in and out of the K5 to your source ? The K5/K5m needs a so called hand-shake process for recieving Blocks of patches.



23 apr. 2019 kl. 22:28 skrev Iain Tann iain_tann@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>:

I appreciate all the feedback I am getting but am I missing something really simple.

To transfer sounds to a K5 what do you need to do other than go into the Midi section and set the following:

TRS=1 , RCV=1

OMNI=ON

TRS=ON, RCV=ON

PGM=MULTI

Do I have to be in a specific screen to receive the sounds, is their anything else no matter how obvious that I am not doing??

Thanks

Iain.

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Re: [k5synth] K5 sound transfer

2019-04-23 by Antoine Deschênes

It should work with both PROTECT (menu and physical switches) set to OFF. MIDIOX and sysex or MIDI files should work I believe
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Le mar. 23 avr. 2019 17 h 53, Iain Tann iain_tann@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :


Yes. I have gone through that part of the manual so many times looking for something I missed.

I have been through the instruction for the Kfuenf software which suggested I need to be in the int/ext display for downloads to work and that didn’t help.

I have a feeling there was something else I have to do but remembering something from 25 years ago is a stretch.

Iain.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Apr 2019, at 22:34, Lars Johansson waveterm@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Iain,


Although I haven’t owned or used a K5 or K5m in 20 years, I downloaded the manual and read the chapter about dumping/loading data through Midi.

Just checking,

Have you connected both Midi in and out of the K5 to your source ? The K5/K5m needs a so called hand-shake process for recieving Blocks of patches.



23 apr. 2019 kl. 22:28 skrev Iain Tann iain_tann@...es.com [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>:

I appreciate all the feedback I am getting but am I missing something really simple.

To transfer sounds to a K5 what do you need to do other than go into the Midi section and set the following:

TRS=1 , RCV=1

OMNI=ON

TRS=ON, RCV=ON

PGM=MULTI

Do I have to be in a specific screen to receive the sounds, is their anything else no matter how obvious that I am not doing??

Thanks

Iain.

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Re: [k5synth] K5 sound transfer

2019-04-23 by Antoine Deschênes

IIRC the RAM sometimes becomes corrupt and sysex stops working. You're stuck having to disconnect the battery before it starts working (mainly with OS 1.0)
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Le mar. 23 avr. 2019 17 h 57, Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@...> a écrit :
It should work with both PROTECT (menu and physical switches) set to OFF. MIDIOX and sysex or MIDI files should work I believe

Le mar. 23 avr. 2019 17 h 53, Iain Tann iain_tann@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :


Yes. I have gone through that part of the manual so many times looking for something I missed.

I have been through the instruction for the Kfuenf software which suggested I need to be in the int/ext display for downloads to work and that didn’t help.

I have a feeling there was something else I have to do but remembering something from 25 years ago is a stretch.

Iain.

Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Apr 2019, at 22:34, Lars Johansson waveterm@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Iain,


Although I haven’t owned or used a K5 or K5m in 20 years, I downloaded the manual and read the chapter about dumping/loading data through Midi.

Just checking,

Have you connected both Midi in and out of the K5 to your source ? The K5/K5m needs a so called hand-shake process for recieving Blocks of patches.



23 apr. 2019 kl. 22:28 skrev Iain Tann iain_tann@... [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>:

I appreciate all the feedback I am getting but am I missing something really simple.

To transfer sounds to a K5 what do you need to do other than go into the Midi section and set the following:

TRS=1 , RCV=1

OMNI=ON

TRS=ON, RCV=ON

PGM=MULTI

Do I have to be in a specific screen to receive the sounds, is their anything else no matter how obvious that I am not doing??

Thanks

Iain.

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RE: [k5synth] K5 sound transfer

2019-04-24 by Iain Tann

Thanks for the suggestion but it didn’t work.

I am amazed that the battery is 25 years old and after plugging in the keyboard it is holding charge when I turn the keyboard off.

Iain.

From: k5synth@yahoogroups.com <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 23 April 2019 23:07
To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [k5synth] K5 sound transfer

IIRC the RAM sometimes becomes corrupt and sysex stops working. You're stuck having to disconnect the battery before it starts working (mainly with OS 1.0)

Le mar. 23 avr. 2019 17 h 57, Antoine Deschênes <antdes45@gmail.com> a écrit :

It should work with both PROTECT (menu and physical switches) set to OFF. MIDIOX and sysex or MIDI files should work I believe

Le mar. 23 avr. 2019 17 h 53, Iain Tann iain_tann@eu.diodes.com [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com> a écrit :

Yes. I have gone through that part of the manual so many times looking for something I missed.

I have been through the instruction for the Kfuenf software which suggested I need to be in the int/ext display for downloads to work and that didn’t help.

I have a feeling there was something else I have to do but remembering something from 25 years ago is a stretch.

Iain.

Sent from my iPhone


On 23 Apr 2019, at 22:34, Lars Johansson waveterm@telia.com [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Iain,

Although I haven’t owned or used a K5 or K5m in 20 years, I downloaded the manual and read the chapter about dumping/loading data through Midi.

Just checking,

Have you connected both Midi in and out of the K5 to your source ? The K5/K5m needs a so called hand-shake process for recieving Blocks of patches.


23 apr. 2019 kl. 22:28 skrev Iain Tann iain_tann@eu.diodes.com [k5synth] <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>:

I appreciate all the feedback I am getting but am I missing something really simple.

To transfer sounds to a K5 what do you need to do other than go into the Midi section and set the following:

<SYSTEM>

TRS=1 , RCV=1

OMNI=ON

<EXCLUSIVE>

TRS=ON, RCV=ON

PGM=MULTI

Do I have to be in a specific screen to receive the sounds, is their anything else no matter how obvious that I am not doing??

Thanks

Iain.

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Re: K5 sound transfer

2019-04-25 by johnathan7890@...

Two things you might try:

1. Switch the "PGM=" setting to the type of data you are trying to send it (i.e. "Patch" if you're sending a patch data dump, or "Multi" if you're sending a multi data dump). Theoretically, this should not matter, but it might...they mention doing this when transferring from one K5 to another. NOTE: I've never had to do this with mine.

2. Be sure and exit the MIDI system screen so that you see the current patch name. When my dumps are successful, you can see the patches change as they are received by the synth. If you're still in the MIDI system screen, this might prevent this from happening.

I remember going through hell getting my patch dumps back and forth to go well (my solution ended up being the timing setting of my editor/librarian, MIDI Quest).

Keep or toss,
J.D.

RE: [k5synth] Re: K5 sound transfer

2019-04-25 by Iain Tann

Thanks for all the help but looks like the K5 has died.

The screen started to corrupt, I turned it off and on and now I have nothing.

If anyone has another broken one that they want to sell and I can hopefully make a working one then I will have to give up.

Great sadness.

From: k5synth@yahoogroups.com <k5synth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 25 April 2019 12:56
To: k5synth@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [k5synth] Re: K5 sound transfer

Two things you might try:

1. Switch the "PGM=" setting to the type of data you are trying to send it (i.e. "Patch" if you're sending a patch data dump, or "Multi" if you're sending a multi data dump). Theoretically, this should not matter, but it might...they mention doing this when transferring from one K5 to another. NOTE: I've never had to do this with mine.

2. Be sure and exit the MIDI system screen so that you see the current patch name. When my dumps are successful, you can see the patches change as they are received by the synth. If you're still in the MIDI system screen, this might prevent this from happening.

I remember going through hell getting my patch dumps back and forth to go well (my solution ended up being the timing setting of my editor/librarian, MIDI Quest).

Keep or toss,

J.D.

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