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I should definitely try it with an echoplex tape echo ^^  for the guitar it’s unbeatable : modern digital, virtual, even analog delays can’t reach the ep3.

Then, about reverb you’re certainly right. I’d have to compare some low bits machines with altiverb which is a really great convolution IR reverb : the best reverb ever made : it’s supposed to sound like an emu II playing on some speakers, in an acoustic environment, and recorded, very very close to what it would sound like, recorded in the reality. I’d advise you to test it and tell us.

 

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Objet : [emulatorII-list] EII + effects processors

 

 

For years I have been a tad frustrated how the EII sounds through modern day effects processors.
As a result, I was using a DP4 and DP/4+ (they sound a little different) but still was off to my ears.   I would also sample the EII and use VST's.
Still not satsatisfied.  Something about the EII's engine just didn't sound right tonally to me through these
processors.   Recently I started picking up 12bit processors.   Wow, what a difference.  I think the EII
sounds so good with units as the original Alesis Midiverb (12bit tabletop unit) and Midifex.  And the Korg DVR1000.
Warning,  the old Alesis units reverb tales just crumble in 12bit crust.  It's crazy.  So does the echo unit.  But
the limited bandwith and bit depth really seems to sound more congruent with the EII's filters and sampling engine.  I guess it depends
what you're trying to achieve.  Older processors and the EII is instant lo-fi bliss. With the right presets and
the right tones from the EII, the air achieved from the 12bit reverb processors can sound so much more lush verses,
an EIII and say like a TC / Eventide / Lexicon.  I know that's a bold statement and a lot of variences in there, but this
has been my experience with these machines.   A space echo or spring reverb would sound very cool with the EII also I would think.
And would probably match up nicely with the way the EII sounds.

  

The EII running through the Lexicon model 200 (not the MX200!!) sounds really good!

--- On Thu, 3/15/12, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: [emulatorII-list] EII + effects processors
To: "emulatorii-list" <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 10:46 AM

 

For years I have been a tad frustrated how the EII sounds through modern day effects processors.
As a result, I was using a DP4 and DP/4+ (they sound a little different) but still was off to my ears.   I would also sample the EII and use VST';s.
Still not satsatisfied.  Something about the EII's engine just didn't sound right tonally to me through these
processors.   Recently I started picking up 12bit processors.   Wow, what a difference.  I think the EII
sounds so good with units as the original Alesis Midiverb (12bit tabletop unit) and Midifex.  And the Korg DVR1000.
Warning,  the old Alesis units reverb tales just crumble in 12bit crust.  It's crazy.  So does the echo unit.  But
the limited bandwith and bit depth really seems to sound more congruent with the EII's filters and sampling engine.  I guess it depends
what you're trying to achieve.  Older processors and the EII is instant lo-fi bliss. With the right presets and
the right tones from the EII, the air achieved from the 12bit reverb processors can sound so much more lush verses,
an EIII and say like a TC / Eventide / Lexicon.  I know that's a bold statement and a lot of variences in there, but this
has been my experience with these machines.   A space echo or spring reverb would sound very cool with the EII also I would think.
And would probably match up nicely with the way the EII sounds.

 

Nice.  What about the Yamaha Rev1 with controller?   Anyone try that?   I so want to try one with the EII.
I would kill for one of the original Dynacord echo / reverb units too.  vrs23 I think.

(secret weapon - strymon timeline w/EII)  omg.    I want to try the eventide space too so bad.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:11 AM, J Five-0 <j_five0@...> wrote:

  

The EII running through the Lexicon model 200 (not the MX200!!) sounds really good!

--- On Thu, 3/15/12, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: [emulatorII-list] EII + effects processors
To: "emulatorii-list" <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 10:46 AM

 

For years I have been a tad frustrated how the EII sounds through modern day effects processors.
As a result, I was using a DP4 and DP/4+ (they sound a little different) but still was off to my ears.   I would also sample the EII and use VST's.
Still not satsatisfied.  Something about the EII's engine just didn't sound right tonally to me through these
processors.   Recently I started picking up 12bit processors.   Wow, what a difference.  I think the EII
sounds so good with units as the original Alesis Midiverb (12bit tabletop unit) and Midifex.  And the Korg DVR1000.
Warning,  the old Alesis units reverb tales just crumble in 12bit crust.  It's crazy.  So does the echo unit.  But
the limited bandwith and bit depth really seems to sound more congruent with the EII's filters and sampling engine.  I guess it depends
what you're trying to achieve.  Older processors and the EII is instant lo-fi bliss. With the right presets and
the right tones from the EII, the air achieved from the 12bit reverb processors can sound so much more lush verses,
an EIII and say like a TC / Eventide / Lexicon.  I know that's a bold statement and a lot of variences in there, but this
has been my experience with these machines.   A space echo or spring reverb would sound very cool with the EII also I would think.
And would probably match up nicely with the way the EII sounds.

 

SP1200 sounds *great* through REV-1. Don't know about EII.
rs

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

 

Nice.  What about the Yamaha Rev1 with controller?   Anyone try that?   I so want to try one with the EII.
I would kill for one of the original Dynacord echo / reverb units too.  vrs23 I think.

(secret weapon - strymon timeline w/EII)  omg.    I want to try the eventide space too so bad.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:11 AM, J Five-0 <j_five0@...> wrote:

  

The EII running through the Lexicon model 200 (not the MX200!!) sounds really good!

--- On Thu, 3/15/12, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: [emulatorII-list] EII + effects processors
To: "emulatorii-list" <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 10:46 AM

 

For years I have been a tad frustrated how the EII sounds through modern day effects processors.
As a result, I was using a DP4 and DP/4+ (they sound a little different) but still was off to my ears.   I would also sample the EII and use VST's.
Still not satsatisfied.  Something about the EII's engine just didn't sound right tonally to me through these
processors.   Recently I started picking up 12bit processors.   Wow, what a difference.  I think the EII
sounds so good with units as the original Alesis Midiverb (12bit tabletop unit) and Midifex.  And the Korg DVR1000.
Warning,  the old Alesis units reverb tales just crumble in 12bit crust.  It's crazy.  So does the echo unit.  But
the limited bandwith and bit depth really seems to sound more congruent with the EII's filters and sampling engine.  I guess it depends
what you're trying to achieve.  Older processors and the EII is instant lo-fi bliss. With the right presets and
the right tones from the EII, the air achieved from the 12bit reverb processors can sound so much more lush verses,
an EIII and say like a TC / Eventide / Lexicon.  I know that's a bold statement and a lot of variences in there, but this
has been my experience with these machines.   A space echo or spring reverb would sound very cool with the EII also I would think.
And would probably match up nicely with the way the EII sounds.

 

I use an Eventide Time factor delay for old synths. You can simulate the bit depth you want - mine is usually set to early 80's 12 bit crappiness or lower. I love that it fit's nicely on top of keyboards, it automatically follows MIDI tempo and it's just covered with knobs. It does great tape loop emulation as well. I occasionally use an old Roland SDE-1000, an excellent sounding 12 bit delay which is easy to find and can be had for cheap.

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> I don't have an EII but my fave delay is an old 80's deltalab Effectron III

>  

> So warm and so not crappy sounding.
>
> even has awesome distortion is you clip the input really hard.
>
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> For years I have been a tad frustrated how the EII sounds through modern day effects processors.

> As a result, I was using a DP4 and DP/4+ (they sound a little different) but still was off to my ears.   I would also sample the EII and use VST's.
> Still not satsatisfied.  Something about the EII's engine just didn't sound right tonally to me through these
> processors.   Recently I started picking up 12bit processors.   Wow, what a difference.  I think the EII
> sounds so good with units as the original Alesis Midiverb (12bit tabletop unit) and Midifex.  And the Korg DVR1000.
> Warning,  the old Alesis units reverb tales just crumble in 12bit crust.  It's crazy.  So does the echo unit.  But
> the limited bandwith and bit depth really seems to sound more congruent with the EII's filters and sampling engine.  I guess it depends
> what you're trying to achieve.  Older processors and the EII is instant lo-fi bliss. With the right presets and

> the right tones from the EII, the air achieved from the 12bit reverb processors can sound so much more lush verses,

> an EIII and say like a TC / Eventide / Lexicon.  I know that's a bold statement and a lot of variences in there, but this
> has been my experience with these machines.   A space echo or spring reverb would sound very cool with the EII also I would think.

> And would probably match up nicely with the way the EII sounds.
>

 

James, Thanks for the heads up about the encoders on the lxp's does it apply to the lxp-15 as well? As for 8bit delay. I used to use an ADA S-1000 alot and if that thing has greater than 8bit dacs the designers should be ashamed of themselves. It is not hifi in any sense of the word. I loved it btw.

--- On Thu, 3/15/12, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: EII + effects processors
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 9:34 PM

 

I'll take every single one of those processors that you guys mentioned in this thread.  Great stuff.
Paul, I have shied away from the LXP-1 and LXP-5 just the for reason of the the encoder issues that the Vortex, Alex, Reflex and Jamman suffer from.  Once those pots go than trying to get the encoders for them is impossible (includin LXP's).  You have to keep buying units to canabilize the encoders for.  But I always wanted try the LXP units with the MRC controller.  It's like an Alesis wedge but only 12 bit and all those parameters to tweak.  I know I will pick these units up, it's only a matter of time.  I gotta try it.

Were there ever any 8bit or 10bit effects?    I think the LXP series have just a tad wider bandwith and go up to 12K instead of 10K like the Midiverb and Midifex. 

On the list too is the Vermona Lancet multimode filter and the Jomox Moonwind.

http://cdn.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/jomox-moonwind-analog-filter-tracker.jpg

I have always dreamt of what the EII would sound like with bandpass and high pass filtering with clockable midi LFO's and subdivisions.  

I need to pick up another Symetrix 606 too.  I haven't had one in about 3 years and that is on the never ending list as well.   Too many cool processors for the EII at this point.

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On Thu, Mar 15, 2012s at 3:54 PM, pulsemod <dblondin@...> wrote:

 

I use an Eventide Time factor delay for old synths. You can simulate the bit depth you want - mine is usually set to early 80's 12 bit crappiness or lower. I love that it fit's nicely on top of keyboards, it automatically follows MIDI tempo and it's just covered with knobs. It does great tape loop emulation as well. I occasionally use an old Roland SDE-1000, an excellent sounding 12 bit delay which is easy to find and can be had for cheap.

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Nick Zampiello wrote:
>
> I don't have an EII but my fave delay is an old 80's deltalab Effectron III

>  

> So warm and so not crappy sounding.
>
> even has awesome distortion is you clip the input really hard.
>
> z
>

>  
> NEW ALLIANCE EAST!!!!
>
> --------------------------------------
>;
>
> New Alliance East - Mastering
>
> New Alliance East - Facebook
>
> X :::: B :::: S
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: James Ulibarri

> To: emulatorii-list <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:46 PM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] EII + effects processors
>
>

>  

> For years I have been a tad frustrated how the EII sounds through modern day effects processors.

>; As a result, I was using a DP4 and DP/4+ (they sound a little different) but still was off to my ears.   I would also sample the EII and use VST's.
> Still not satsatisfied.  Something about the EII's engine just didn't sound right tonally to me through these
> processors.   Recently I started picking up 12bit processors.   Wow, what a difference.  I think the EII
> sounds so good with units as the original Alesis Midiverb (12bit tabletop unit) and Midifex.  And the Korg DVR1000.
> Warning,  the old Alesis units reverb tales just crumble in 12bit crust.  It's crazy.  So does the echo unit.  But
> the limited bandwith and bit depth really seems to sound more congruent with the EII's filters and sampling engine.  I guess it depends
> what you're trying to achieve.  Older processors and the EII is instant lo-fi bliss. With the right presets and

> the right tones from the EII, the air achieved from the 12bit reverb processors can sound so much more lush verses,

> an EIII and say like a TC / Eventide / Lexicon.  I know that's a bold statement and a lot of variences in there, but this
> has been my experience with these machines.   A space echo or spring reverb would sound very cool with the EII also I would think.

> And would probably match up nicely with the way the EII sounds.
>