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Cloning an emulator II ..

Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by adrien

Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this. I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards, and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound designer. 
But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ? 
Thanks !

Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by WT

Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "adrien" <ad9@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..


> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this. 
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose 
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar 
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are 
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards, 
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply 
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound 
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to 
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by adrien

Well, i sold mine already. But i'd like to be able to build one with modern equivalent chips and maybe several. Same boards layout also so it could help for replacements on originals . 

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "WT" <waveterm@...> wrote:
>
> Oberheim DPX-1 ?
> 
> WT
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "adrien" <ad9@...>
> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
> 
> 
> > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this. 
> > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose 
> > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar 
> > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are 
> > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards, 
> > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply 
> > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound 
> > designer.
> > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to 
> > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > Thanks !
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Adrien

Please, as i never played an emax R30; could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ?

If a rack version of I don\u2019t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?

I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )

 

Thanks,

Adrien

 

Ps, I\u03357;ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I\u2019d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol

The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but \u2026 I would be crazy too.

Several of each in the emu II as you know :

 

74LS00

74LS04

74LS08

74LS10

74LS11

74LS14

74LS20

74LS32

74LS42

74LS54

74LS74

74LS86

74LS92

74LS112

74LS138

74LE164

74LS174

74LS221

74LS244

74LS273

74LS374

74LS393

74LS670

74C244

74S00

74S37

74S74

74S112

74S138

74S174

74S175

74S181

74S240

74S244

74S283

74S374

74S472

74HCT04

74HCT08

74HCT11

74HCT32

74HCT74

74HCT86

74HCT138

74HCT151

74HCT174

74HCT244

74HCT273

74HCT374

74HCT393

ADC0809

AD7524J

Z80APIO

Z80ADMA

Z80ACPU

Z80ACTC

Z80ASIO2

1302

1488

1489

3202

4164

4764

7407

7408

9128

4051B

4070B

6072

2149H-3

2764-3

8254-2

14559B

SCN2651

TL084

DG202

S3528

LF311

LF356

MC34004P

SSM2045

 

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@...m] De la part de WT
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Tyler Burns

The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different. �Which are you referring to?


From: Adrien
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II�? �good ? not as good ?
If a rack version of I don’t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?
I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
Thanks,
Adrien
Ps, I’ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I’d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but … I would be crazy too.
Several of each in the emu II as you know :
 
74LS00
74LS04
74LS08
74LS10
74LS11
74LS14
74LS20
74LS32
74LS42
74LS54
74LS74
74LS86
74LS92
74LS112
74LS138
74LE164
74LS174
74LS221
74LS244
74LS273
74LS374
74LS393
74LS670
74C244
74S00
74S37
74S74
74S112
74S138
74S174
74S175
74S181
74S240
74S244
74S283
74S374
74S472
74HCT04
74HCT08
74HCT11
74HCT32
74HCT74
74HCT86
74HCT138
74HCT151
74HCT174
74HCT244
74HCT273
74HCT374
74HCT393
ADC0809
AD7524J
Z80APIO
Z80ADMA
Z80ACPU
Z80ACTC
Z80ASIO2
1302
1488
1489
3202
4164
4764
7407
7408
9128
4051B
4070B
6072
2149H-3
2764-3
8254-2
14559B
SCN2651
TL084
DG202
S3528
LF311
LF356
MC34004P
SSM2045
�;
De�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
Envoyé�: lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet�: Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Adrien

Thanks, in fact i have no idea ! ; )  between the emax I and II, and compared to the emulator II, I was wondering what would be the best replacement, and if any of these has the same magic when sampling with it, just like with the emulator II, in the character of the sound.

Since the emax ( 1 or 2, I don\u2019t know if they were made in the same purpose ) were supposed to emulate the emulator II \u2026 is it convincing ? or will I loose too much , by selling my emu II and get an emax ?

I\u2019m afraid of the answer lol \u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:13
À ;: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different.  Which are you referring to?

 

 

From: Adrien <ad9@...>
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

Please, as i never played an emax \u2026 could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ?

If a rack version of I don\u2019t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?

I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )

 

Thanks,

Adrien

 

Ps, I\u2019ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I\u2019d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol

The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but \u2026 I would be crazy too.

Several of each in the emu II as you know :

 

74LS00

74LS04

74LS08

74LS10

74LS11

74LS14

74LS20

74LS32

74LS42

74LS54

74LS74

74LS86

74LS92

74LS112

74LS138

74LE164

74LS174

74LS221

74LS244

74LS273

74LS374

74LS393

74LS670

74C244

74S00

74S37

74S74

74S112

74S138

74S174

74S175

74S181

74S240

74S244

74S283

74S374

74S472

74HCT04

74HCT08

74HCT11

74HCT32

74HCT74

74HCT86

74HCT138

74HCT151

74HCT174

74HCT244

74HCT273

74HCT374

74HCT393

ADC0809

AD7524J

Z80APIO

Z80ADMA

Z80ACPU

Z80ACTC

Z80ASIO2

1302

1488

1489

3202

4164

4764

7407

7408

9128

4051B

4070B

6072

2149H-3

2764-3

8254-2

14559B

SCN2651

TL084

DG202

S3528

LF311

LF356

MC34004P

SSM2045

 

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@free.fr>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

 

Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Greg

You can't replace the EII sound.
Oh, you can with a Synclavier PSMT. You could sample and get a close version.

G

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: "Adrien" <ad9@free.fr>
Sender: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:48:53 +0200
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

Thanks, in fact i have no idea ! ; )  between the emax I and II, and compared to the emulator II, I was wondering what would be the best replacement, and if any of these has the same magic when sampling with it, just like with the emulator II, in the character of the sound.

Since the emax ( 1 or 2, I don’t know if they were made in the same purpose ) were supposed to emulate the emulator II … is it convincing ? or will I loose too much , by selling my emu II and get an emax ?

I’m afraid of the answer lol …

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:13
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different.  Which are you referring to?

 

 

From: Adrien <ad9@free.fr>
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ?

If a rack version of I don’t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?

I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )

 

Thanks,

Adrien

 

Ps, I’ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I’d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol

The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but … I would be crazy too.

Several of each in the emu II as you know :

 

74LS00

74LS04

74LS08

74LS10

74LS11

74LS14

74LS20

74LS32

74LS42

74LS54

74LS74

74LS86

74LS92

74LS112

74LS138

74LE164

74LS174

74LS221

74LS244

74LS273

74LS374

74LS393

74LS670

74C244

74S00

74S37

74S74

74S112

74S138

74S174

74S175

74S181

74S240

74S244

74S283

74S374

74S472

74HCT04

74HCT08

74HCT11

74HCT32

74HCT74

74HCT86

74HCT138

74HCT151

74HCT174

74HCT244

74HCT273

74HCT374

74HCT393

ADC0809

AD7524J

Z80APIO

Z80ADMA

Z80ACPU

Z80ACTC

Z80ASIO2

1302

1488

1489

3202

4164

4764

7407

7408

9128

4051B

4070B

6072

2149H-3

2764-3

8254-2

14559B

SCN2651

TL084

DG202

S3528

LF311

LF356

MC34004P

SSM2045

 

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@free.fr>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

 

RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Adrien

That\u2019s right, 10 seconds before your email, i decided to remove it from ebay, i was stupid to sel lit, just for my need of money, there are other ways \u2026 and mine was used on some 80\u2019 hits , so that\u2019s one more reason. Or I would regret it. Now I\u2019ll have to take care of it, to make it last forever lol, but problems are difficult to debug, it\u2019s not like a fuzz circuit ! ^^

 

But I\u2019m still interested to know the character of the emax, compared to the emu II \u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Greg
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:59
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

You can't replace the EII sound.
Oh, you can with a Synclavier PSMT. You could sample and get a close version.

G

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: "Adrien" <ad9@...>

Sender: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:48:53 +0200

To: ;

ReplyTo: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Thanks, in fact i have no idea ! ; )  between the emax I and II, and compared to the emulator II, I was wondering what would be the best replacement, and if any of these has the same magic when sampling with it, just like with the emulator II, in the character of the sound.

Since the emax ( 1 or 2, I don\u2019t know if they were made in the same purpose ) were supposed to emulate the emulator II R30; is it convincing ? or will I loose too much , by selling my emu II and get an emax ?

I\u2019m afraid of the answer lol \u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:13
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different.  Which are you referring to?

 

 

From: Adrien <ad9@...>
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

Please, as i never played an emax 230; could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ?

If a rack version of I don\u2019t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?

I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )

 

Thanks,

Adrien

 

Ps, I\u2019ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I\u2019d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol

The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but \u2026 I would be crazy too.

Several of each in the emu II as you know :

 

74LS00

74LS04

74LS08

74LS10

74LS11

74LS14

74LS20

74LS32

74LS42

74LS54

74LS74

74LS86

74LS92

74LS112

74LS138

74LE164

74LS174

74LS221

74LS244

74LS273

74LS374

74LS393

74LS670

74C244

74S00

74S37

74S74

74S112

74S138

74S174

74S175

74S181

74S240

74S244

74S283

74S374

74S472

74HCT04

74HCT08

74HCT11

74HCT32

74HCT74

74HCT86

74HCT138

74HCT151

74HCT174

74HCT244

74HCT273

74HCT374

74HCT393

ADC0809

AD7524J

Z80APIO

Z80ADMA

Z80ACPU

Z80ACTC

Z80ASIO2

1302

1488

1489

3202

4164

4764

7407

7408

9128

4051B

4070B

6072

2149H-3

2764-3

8254-2

14559B

SCN2651

TL084

DG202

S3528

LF311

LF356

MC34004P

SSM2045

 

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

 

Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Tyler Burns

The Emax I is pretty awesome, character-wise. �It's 12-bit, so a tiny bit higher resolution, at least on paper, but with a much more aggressive analog filter. �The Emax II is 16 bit and has a digital filter. �It's still an awesome sampler, though, but it certainly doesn't have the smooth analog sound of the EII or Emax I. �I'd say the Emax I would be a good replacement, but it doesn't look nearly as cool as an EII. �(In a mix, you'd never be able to tell.)



From: Adrien
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

That’s right, 10 seconds before your email, i decided to remove it from ebay, i was stupid to sel lit, just for my need of money, there are other ways … and mine was used on some 80’ hits , so that’s one more reason. Or I would regret it. Now I’ll have to take care of it, to make it last forever lol, but problems are difficult to debug, it’s not like a fuzz circuit ! ^^
But I’m still interested to know the character of the emax, compared to the emu II …
De�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Greg
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:59
À�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet�: Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
You can't replace the EII sound.
Oh, you can with a Synclavier PSMT. You could sample and get a close version.

G
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From: "Adrien" < ad9@free.fr >
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:48:53 +0200
To:
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Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
Thanks, in fact i have no idea�! ; )� between the emax I and II, and compared to the emulator II, I was wondering what would be the best replacement, and if any of these has the same magic when sampling with it, just like with the emulator II, in the character of the sound.
Since the emax ( 1 or 2, I don’t know if they were made in the same purpose ) were supposed to emulate the emulator II … is it convincing ? or will I loose too much , by selling my emu II and get an emax ?
I’m afraid of the answer lol …
De�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé�: lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:13
À�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet�: Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different. �Which are you referring to?
From: Adrien < ad9@... >
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II�? �;good ? not as good ?
If a rack version of I don’t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?
I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
Thanks,
Adrien
�;
Ps, I’ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I’d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but … I would be crazy too.
Several of each in the emu II as you know :
�;
74LS00
74LS04
74LS08
74LS10
74LS11
74LS14
74LS20
74LS32
74LS42
74LS54
74LS74
74LS86
74LS92
74LS112
74LS138
74LE164
74LS174
74LS221
74LS244
74LS273
74LS374
74LS393
74LS670
74C244
74S00
74S37
74S74
74S112
74S138
74S174
74S175
74S181
74S240
74S244
74S283
74S374
74S472
74HCT04
74HCT08
74HCT11
74HCT32
74HCT74
74HCT86
74HCT138
74HCT151
74HCT174
74HCT244
74HCT273
74HCT374
74HCT393
ADC0809
AD7524J
Z80APIO
Z80ADMA
Z80ACPU
Z80ACTC
Z80ASIO2
1302
1488
1489
3202
4164
4764
7407
7408
9128
4051B
4070B
6072
2149H-3
2764-3
8254-2
14559B
SCN2651
TL084
DG202
S3528
LF311
LF356
MC34004P
SSM2045
�;
 
De�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
Envoyé�: lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet�: Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Greg

Here's the thing about a lot of machine's. Close enough is good enough. If you have it and need to sell it just sample your favorite sounds. It's the sounds that are the most important, you can always get features. Its okay to sell anything, just sample it befor you sell it.

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From: "Adrien" <ad9@free.fr>
Sender: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:03:05 +0200
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
ReplyTo: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

That’s right, 10 seconds before your email, i decided to remove it from ebay, i was stupid to sel lit, just for my need of money, there are other ways … and mine was used on some 80’ hits , so that’s one more reason. Or I would regret it. Now I’ll have to take care of it, to make it last forever lol, but problems are difficult to debug, it’s not like a fuzz circuit ! ^^

 

But I’m still interested to know the character of the emax, compared to the emu II …

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Greg
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:59
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

You can't replace the EII sound.
Oh, you can with a Synclavier PSMT. You could sample and get a close version.

G

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From: "Adrien" <ad9@free.fr>

Sender: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:48:53 +0200

To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>

ReplyTo: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Thanks, in fact i have no idea ! ; )  between the emax I and II, and compared to the emulator II, I was wondering what would be the best replacement, and if any of these has the same magic when sampling with it, just like with the emulator II, in the character of the sound.

Since the emax ( 1 or 2, I don’t know if they were made in the same purpose ) were supposed to emulate the emulator II … is it convincing ? or will I loose too much , by selling my emu II and get an emax ?

I’m afraid of the answer lol …

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:13
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different.  Which are you referring to?

 

 

From: Adrien <ad9@free.fr>
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ?

If a rack version of I don’t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?

I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )

 

Thanks,

Adrien

 

Ps, I’ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I’d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol

The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but … I would be crazy too.

Several of each in the emu II as you know :

 

74LS00

74LS04

74LS08

74LS10

74LS11

74LS14

74LS20

74LS32

74LS42

74LS54

74LS74

74LS86

74LS92

74LS112

74LS138

74LE164

74LS174

74LS221

74LS244

74LS273

74LS374

74LS393

74LS670

74C244

74S00

74S37

74S74

74S112

74S138

74S174

74S175

74S181

74S240

74S244

74S283

74S374

74S472

74HCT04

74HCT08

74HCT11

74HCT32

74HCT74

74HCT86

74HCT138

74HCT151

74HCT174

74HCT244

74HCT273

74HCT374

74HCT393

ADC0809

AD7524J

Z80APIO

Z80ADMA

Z80ACPU

Z80ACTC

Z80ASIO2

1302

1488

1489

3202

4164

4764

7407

7408

9128

4051B

4070B

6072

2149H-3

2764-3

8254-2

14559B

SCN2651

TL084

DG202

S3528

LF311

LF356

MC34004P

SSM2045

 

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@free.fr>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

 

RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Adrien

I understand. Yes, I\u2019m worried about the sound , the character. So it\u2019s good news for me, the emax is \u2026 90% the same , for the tone ?

After all, dépêche mode used the emax a lot, but I have no experience with this machine.

Thanks Terry !

 

Did you hear about a method perhaps, that helps to know which chip eventually break ? it didn\u2019;t happen on mine but as all I can do is to pray that nothing ever happens to my emu , I\u2019m wondering what I could do if I first don\u2019t know where is the problem , and second : how to find a part that doesn\u2019t exist anymore \u2026

 

We could perhaps create an emu II real bank ! lol , all together, so we could create a stock of newly made parts that cost some $$ ..

Why not planning to recreate the ssm 2045 for example, as it\u2019s really rare, and some others ? it didn\u2019t seem impossible to my electronic tech friend, but he said that it costs a lot. Buying in quantities will reduce the price a lot as we know.

 

Or \u2026 what will happen ? for how long will we be able to use our emu ? taking some broken ones apart to repair some others, ok \u03370; but it has some limits.

All the other stuffs are easily replaceable  \u2026 resistors, caps \u2026 transformer, transistors \u2026 circuit boards \u2026  it\u2019s a hassle but it\u2019s possible.

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé : mardi 13 s
eptembre 2011 00:26
À ;: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

The Emax I is pretty awesome, character-wise.  It's 12-bit, so a tiny bit higher resolution, at least on paper, but with a much more aggressive analog filter.  The Emax II is 16 bit and has a digital filter.  It's still an awesome sampler, though, but it certainly doesn't have the smooth analog sound of the EII or Emax I.  I'd say the Emax I would be a good replacement, but it doesn't look nearly as cool as an EII.  (In a mix, you'd never be able to tell.)

 

 

 

From: Adrien <ad9@free.fr>
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

That\u2019s right, 10 seconds before your email, i decided to remove it from ebay, i was stupid to sel lit, just for my need of money, there are other ways \u2026 and mine was used on some 80\u2019 hits , so that\u2019s one more reason. Or I would regret it. Now I\u2019ll have to take care of it, to make it last forever lol, but problems are difficult to debug, it\u2019s not like a fuzz circuit ! ^^

 

But I\u2019m still interested to know the character of the emax, compared to the emu II \u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Greg
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:59
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

You can't replace the EII sound.
Oh, you can with a Synclavier PSMT. You could sample and get a close version.

G

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: "Adrien" < ad9@... >

Sender: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:48:53 +0200

To:

ReplyTo: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Thanks, in fact i have no idea ! ; )  between the emax I and II, and compared to the emulator II, I was wondering what would be the best replacement, and if any of these has the same magic when sampling with it, just like with the emulator II, in the character of the sound.

Since the emax ( 1 or 2, I don\u2019t know if they were made in the same purpose ) were supposed to emulate the emulator II \u2026 is it convincing ? or will I loose too much , by selling my emu II and get an emax ?

I\u2019m afraid of the answer lol \u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:13
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different.  Which are you referring to?

 

 

From: Adrien < ad9@... >
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

Please, as i never played an emax \u2026 could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ?

If a rack version of I don\u2019t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?

I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )

 

Thanks,

Adrien

 

Ps, I\u2019ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I\u2019d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol

The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but \u2026 I would be crazy too.

Several of each in the emu II as you know :

 

74LS00

74LS04

74LS08

74LS10

74LS11

74LS14

74LS20

74LS32

74LS42

74LS54

74LS74

74LS86

74LS92

74LS112

74LS138

74LE164

74LS174

74LS221

74LS244

74LS273

74LS374

74LS393

74LS670

74C244

74S00

74S37

74S74

74S112

74S138

74S174

74S175

74S181

74S240

74S244

74S283

74S374

74S472

74HCT04

74HCT08

74HCT11

74HCT32

74HCT74

74HCT86

74HCT138

74HCT151

74HCT174

74HCT244

74HCT273

74HCT374

74HCT393

ADC0809

AD7524J

Z80APIO

Z80ADMA

Z80ACPU

Z80ACTC

Z80ASIO2

1302

1488

1489

3202

4164

4764

7407

7408

9128

4051B

4070B

6072

2149H-3

2764-3

8254-2

14559B

SCN2651

TL084

DG202

S3528

LF311

RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-12 by Adrien

Yes, i sampled everything already ! lol

I was thinking : I\u2019ve got all the hundreds emu II sounds, why not simply use them in another environment and make some money with the emu ? but then I started to wonder what I\u2019d loose \u2026 and I should try to really sample sounds with the emu, cause you know, I mostly used the well known libray, and didn\u2019t really sample things by myself, very rarely. I was satisfied this way. Now, I\u2019m worried a bit.

if I want to transform, to colorize a cool sound, then I\u2019ll need the emulator \u2026 is that right ? not replaceable\u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Greg
Envoyé : mardi 13 septembre 2011 00:39
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Here's the thing about a lot of machine's. Close enough is good enough. If you have it and need to sell it just sample your favorite sounds. It's the sounds that are the most important, you can always get features. Its okay to sell anything, just sample it befor you sell it.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: "Adrien" <ad9@...>

Sender: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:03:05 +0200

To:

ReplyTo: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

That\u2019s right, 10 seconds before your email, i decided to remove it from ebay, i was stupid to sel lit, just for my need of money, there are other ways \u2026 and mine was used on some 80\u2019 hits , so that\u2019s one more reason. Or I would regret it. Now I\u2019ll have to take care of it, to make it last forever lol, but problems are difficult to debug, it\u2019s not like a fuzz circuit ! ^^

 

But I\u2019m still interested to know the character of the emax, compared to the emu II \u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Greg
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:59
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

You can't replace the EII sound.
Oh, you can with a Synclavier PSMT. You could sample and get a close version.

G

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

From: "Adrien" <ad9@...>;

Sender: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:48:53 +0200

To:

ReplyTo: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Thanks, in fact i have no idea ! ; )  between the emax I and II, and compared to the emulator II, I was wondering what would be the best replacement, and if any of these has the same magic when sampling with it, just like with the emulator II, in the character of the sound.

Since the emax ( 1 or 2, I don\u2019t know if they were made in the same purpose ) were supposed to emulate the emulator II \u2026 is it convincing ? or will I loose too much , by selling my emu II and get an emax ?

I\u2019m afraid of the answer lol \u2026

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Tyler Burns
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 23:13
À ;: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

The Emax I and Emax II are pretty different.  Which are you referring to?

 

 

From: Adrien <ad9@free.fr>
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

Please, as i never played an emax \u2026 could someone tell me some feedbacks on this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ?

If a rack version of I don\u2019t know which version of the emax will be the same as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when you sample something with an emax ?

I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )

 

Thanks,

Adrien

 

Ps, I\u2019ve listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I\u2019d be totaly crazy if I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol

The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable sampler but \u2026 I would be crazy too.

Several of each in the emu II as you know :

 

74LS00

74LS04

74LS08

74LS10

74LS11

74LS14

74LS20

74LS32

74LS42

74LS54

74LS74

74LS86

74LS92

74LS112

74LS138

74LE164

74LS174

74LS221

74LS244

74LS273

74LS374

74LS393

74LS670

74C244

74S00

74S37

74S74

74S112

74S138

74S174

74S175

74S181

74S240

74S244

74S283

74S374

74S472

74HCT04

74HCT08

74HCT11

74HCT32

74HCT74

74HCT86

74HCT138

74HCT151

74HCT174

74HCT244

74HCT273

74HCT374

74HCT393

ADC0809

AD7524J

Z80APIO

Z80ADMA

Z80ACPU

Z80ACTC

Z80ASIO2

1302

1488

1489

3202

4164

4764

7407

7408

9128

4051B

4070B

6072

2149H-3

2764-3

8254-2

14559B

SCN2651

TL084

DG202

S3528

LF311

LF356

MC34004P

SSM2045

 

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Oberheim DPX-1 ?

WT

----- Original Message -----
From: "adrien" <ad9@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..

> Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> designer.
> But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> Thanks !
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

 

Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-14 by trickstar303

Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy and dont mean to be a buzz killer, but why don't you simply keep your EII if you like the sound so much and save yourself all the trouble of rebuilding/clone it?! That project is going to cost you TONS of time and money and good luck finding all the ICs. I mean seriously, if you weigh up cost and time for that project against what you're gonna get for your EII, it makes no sense. Unless you have tons of spare time to kill and commercial ambitions to sell it as a mass produced viable EII replacement. But even then, I don't think the vintage sampler lover's market is large enough to justify it. Just my 2 cents...

The Emax I would probably be as close as you can get to the EII if you decided to sell and looking for a cheaper alternative.

Good luck! 
George



--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Adrien" <ad9@...> wrote:
>
> Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks on
> this one, compared to an EMU II ?  good ? not as good ? 
> 
> If a rack version of I don't know which version of the emax will be the same
> as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when
> you sample something with an emax ? 
> 
> I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax
> was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Adrien
> 
>  
> 
> Ps, I've listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I'd be totaly crazy if
> I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
> 
> The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable
> sampler but … I would be crazy too.
> 
> Several of each in the emu II as you know :
> 
>  
> 
> 74LS00
> 
> 74LS04
> 
> 74LS08
> 
> 74LS10
> 
> 74LS11
> 
> 74LS14
> 
> 74LS20
> 
> 74LS32
> 
> 74LS42
> 
> 74LS54
> 
> 74LS74
> 
> 74LS86
> 
> 74LS92
> 
> 74LS112
> 
> 74LS138
> 
> 74LE164
> 
> 74LS174
> 
> 74LS221
> 
> 74LS244
> 
> 74LS273
> 
> 74LS374
> 
> 74LS393
> 
> 74LS670
> 
> 74C244
> 
> 74S00
> 
> 74S37
> 
> 74S74
> 
> 74S112
> 
> 74S138
> 
> 74S174
> 
> 74S175
> 
> 74S181
> 
> 74S240
> 
> 74S244
> 
> 74S283
> 
> 74S374
> 
> 74S472
> 
> 74HCT04
> 
> 74HCT08
> 
> 74HCT11
> 
> 74HCT32
> 
> 74HCT74
> 
> 74HCT86
> 
> 74HCT138
> 
> 74HCT151
> 
> 74HCT174
> 
> 74HCT244
> 
> 74HCT273
> 
> 74HCT374
> 
> 74HCT393
> 
> ADC0809
> 
> AD7524J
> 
> Z80APIO
> 
> Z80ADMA
> 
> Z80ACPU
> 
> Z80ACTC
> 
> Z80ASIO2
> 
> 1302
> 
> 1488
> 
> 1489
> 
> 3202
> 
> 4164
> 
> 4764
> 
> 7407
> 
> 7408
> 
> 9128
> 
> 4051B
> 
> 4070B
> 
> 6072
> 
> 2149H-3
> 
> 2764-3
> 
> 8254-2
> 
> 14559B
> 
> SCN2651
> 
> TL084
> 
> DG202
> 
> S3528
> 
> LF311
> 
> LF356
> 
> MC34004P
> 
> SSM2045
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
> Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
> À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Oberheim DPX-1 ?
> 
> WT
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "adrien" <ad9@... <mailto:ad9%40free.fr> >
> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:emulatorII-list%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
> 
> > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
> 
> > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose 
> > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar 
> > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are 
> > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards, 
> > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
> 
> > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound 
> > designer.
> > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to 
> > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > Thanks !
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

RE: [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-14 by Adrien

Yes you217;re right, and i decided to keep my emulator II. It\u2019s funny but I didn\u2019t realise the potential of this instrument yet !!!  I had it for years, using classic librarys sounds, not touching anything, loving it, but these days I\u2019m having fun sampling stuffs, and transforming the sound ; )

But I suspected that it had more than that. All I had to do was to play with the buttons and learn how to use it ! ha ha ha. I\u2019m mostly playing guitar, and building marshall vintage amps, Hendrix stuffs.

 

Yeah, I had this DIY reflex, wanting to clone it. I\u2019m still analysing how I could do, cause it\u2019s interesting, always a challenge. And why not, another version of the emulator, just the same but with some useful simple features. But I\u2019d have to build several. I suppose I could sell it anyway, why not. I\u2019m analysing what chips are available, and what chips I\u2019d have to recreate. Then, a way to make it simple to build. After all , it looks complicate, but it\u03357;s not so complicate. Still something diyable, and that\u2019s cool.

 

Btw, I saw thie comparison between an emu II and an emax, very interesting, what do you think ? quite different ..

 

http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=48510&p=517742&hilit=Emax+comparison#p517742

 

thanks,

Adrien

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de trickstar303
Envoyé : mercredi 14 septembre 2011 19:43
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy and dont mean to be a buzz killer, but why don't you simply keep your EII if you like the sound so much and save yourself all the trouble of rebuilding/clone it?! That project is going to cost you TONS of time and money and good luck finding all the ICs. I mean seriously, if you weigh up cost and time for that project against what you're gonna get for your EII, it makes no sense. Unless you have tons of spare time to kill and commercial ambitions to sell it as a mass produced viable EII replacement. But even then, I don't think the vintage sampler lover's market is large enough to justify it. Just my 2 cents...

The Emax I would probably be as close as you can get to the EII if you decided to sell and looking for a cheaper alternative.

Good luck!
George

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Adrien" wrote:
>
> Please, as i never played an emax \u2026 could someone tell me some feedbacks on
> this one, compared to an EMU II ? good ? not as good ?
>
> If a rack version of I don't know which version of the emax will be the same
> as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when
> you sample something with an emax ?
>
> I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax
> was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adrien
>
>
>
> Ps, I've listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I'd be totaly crazy if
> I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
>
> The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable
> sampler but \u2026 I would be crazy too.
>
> Several of each in the emu II as you know :
>
>
>
> 74LS00
>
> 74LS04
>
> 74LS08
>
> 74LS10
>
> 74LS11
>
> 74LS14
>
> 74LS20
>
> 74LS32
>
> 74LS42
>
> 74LS54
>
> 74LS74
>
> 74LS86
>
> 74LS92
>
> 74LS112
>
> 74LS138
>
> 74LE164
>
> 74LS174
>
> 74LS221
>
> 74LS244
>
> 74LS273
>
> 74LS374
>
> 74LS393
>
> 74LS670
>
> 74C244
>
> 74S00
>;
> 74S37
>
> 74S74
>
> 74S112
>
> 74S138
>
> 74S174
>
> 74S175
>
> 74S181
>
> 74S240
>
> 74S244
>
> 74S283
>
> 74S374
>
> 74S472
>
> 74HCT04
>
> 74HCT08
>
> 74HCT11
>
> 74HCT32
>
> 74HCT74
>
> 74HCT86
>
> 74HCT138
>
> 74HCT151
>
> 74HCT174
>
> 74HCT244
>
> 74HCT273
>
> 74HCT374
>
> 74HCT393
>
> ADC0809
>
> AD7524J
>
> Z80APIO
>
> Z80ADMA
>
> Z80ACPU
>
> Z80ACTC
>
> Z80ASIO2
>
> 1302
>
> 1488
>
> 1489
>
> 3202
>
> 4164
>
> 4764
>
> 7407
>
> 7408
>;
> 9128
>
> 4051B
>
> 4070B
>
> 6072
>
> 2149H-3
>
> 2764-3
>
> 8254-2
>
> 14559B
>
> SCN2651
>
> TL084
>
> DG202
>
> S3528
>
> LF311
>
> LF356
>
> MC34004P
>
> SSM2045
>
>
>
>
>;
> _____
>
> De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
> Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
> À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
>
>
>
>
> Oberheim DPX-1 ?
>
> WT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adrien" >
> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> >
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
> > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
>
> > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
>
> > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> > designer.
> > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > Thanks !
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-14 by James Ulibarri

I have been biting my lip on this topic also.  I know better now not to say anything on this kind of stuff.
Why not just focus all your time and energy on making music with your Emu's rather than this constant mad scientist science project
stuff with these old machines.  I am done doing all that.  Now it's time to make a ton of trax with all this cool Emu stuff I have collected and serviced.  The best advice you're going to get is once you have a machine that works right...  Just make music with it.
I think most people, like myself at times, forget about that part and lose their focus.  Little mods here and there is ok.
But cloning it or re-engineering the whole entire thing is totally mental.  You'll waste your time and money.

Make a track today with your EII if you have all this time and energy to burn.  :)




On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, trickstar303 <trickstar303@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy and dont mean to be a buzz killer, but why don't you simply keep your EII if you like the sound so much and save yourself all the trouble of rebuilding/clone it?! That project is going to cost you TONS of time and money and good luck finding all the ICs. I mean seriously, if you weigh up cost and time for that project against what you're gonna get for your EII, it makes no sense. Unless you have tons of spare time to kill and commercial ambitions to sell it as a mass produced viable EII replacement. But even then, I don't think the vintage sampler lover's market is large enough to justify it. Just my 2 cents...

The Emax I would probably be as close as you can get to the EII if you decided to sell and looking for a cheaper alternative.

Good luck!
George



--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Adrien" wrote:
>
> Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks on
> this one, compared to an EMU II ? good ? not as good ?
>
> If a rack version of I don't know which version of the emax will be the same
> as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when
> you sample something with an emax ?
>
> I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax
> was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adrien
>
>
>
> Ps, I've listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I'd be totaly crazy if
> I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
>
> The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable
> sampler but … I would be crazy too.
>
> Several of each in the emu II as you know :
>
>
>
> 74LS00
>
> 74LS04
>
> 74LS08
>
> 74LS10
>
> 74LS11
>
>; 74LS14
>
> 74LS20
>
> 74LS32
>
> 74LS42
>
> 74LS54
>
> 74LS74
>
> 74LS86
>
> 74LS92
>
> 74LS112
>;
> 74LS138
>
> 74LE164
>
> 74LS174
>
> 74LS221
>
> 74LS244
>
> 74LS273
>
> 74LS374
>
> 74LS393
>
> 74LS670
>
> 74C244
>
> 74S00
>
> 74S37
>
> 74S74
>
> 74S112
>
> 74S138
>
> 74S174
>
> 74S175
>
> 74S181
>
> 74S240
>
> 74S244
>
> 74S283
>
> 74S374
>
> 74S472
>
> 74HCT04
>
> 74HCT08
>
> 74HCT11
>
> 74HCT32
>
> 74HCT74
>
> 74HCT86
>
> 74HCT138
>
> 74HCT151
>
> 74HCT174
>
> 74HCT244
>
> 74HCT273
>
> 74HCT374
>
> 74HCT393
>
> ADC0809
>
> AD7524J
>
> Z80APIO
>
> Z80ADMA
>
> Z80ACPU
>
> Z80ACTC
>
> Z80ASIO2
>
> 1302
>
> 1488
>;
> 1489
>
> 3202
>
> 4164
>
> 4764
>
> 7407
>
> 7408
>
> 9128
>
> 4051B
>
> 4070B
>
> 6072
>
> 2149H-3
>
> 2764-3
>
> 8254-2
>
> 14559B
>
> SCN2651
>
> TL084
>
> DG202
>
> S3528
>
> LF311
>
> LF356
>
> MC34004P
>
> SSM2045
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
> Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
> À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
>
>
>
>
> Oberheim DPX-1 ?
>
> WT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adrien" ad9%40free.fr> >
> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> emulatorII-list%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
> > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
>
> > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
>;
> > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> > designer.
> > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > Thanks !
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>


RE: [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-14 by Adrien

Ha ha !  yeah i told before i\u2019d be crazy to clone it \u2026 how long time it would take in my short life \u2026 doing music is better, i agree ! : D

But well, this evening I have some energy to burn, to start and finish a joe bonamassa germanium fuzz , and have fun with it ^^

I just hope that my emu won\u2019t break, or I won\u2019t know how to discover what part or chip isn\u2019t working : is there a method for this ?

I\u2019m thinking of buying all the chips needed for an emu II, so I\u2019;ll can fix it if anything happens.

 

Adrien

 

De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de James Ulibarri
Envoyé : mercred
i 14 septembre 2011 20:04
À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

 

 

I have been biting my lip on this topic also.  I know better now not to say anything on this kind of stuff.
Why not just focus all your time and energy on making music with your Emu's rather than this constant mad scientist science project
stuff with these old machines.  I am done doing all that.  Now it's time to make a ton of trax with all this cool Emu stuff I have collected and serviced.  The best advice you're going to get is once you have a machine that works right...  Just make music with it.
I think most people, like myself at times, forget about that part and lose their focus.  Little mods here and there is ok.
But cloning it or re-engineering the whole entire thing is totally mental.  You'll waste your time and money.

Make a track today with your EII if you have all this time and energy to burn.  :)



On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, trickstar303 <trickstar303@...> wrote:

 ;

Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy and dont mean to be a buzz killer, but why don't you simply keep your EII if you like the sound so much and save yourself all the trouble of rebuilding/clone it?! That project is going to cost you TONS of time and money and good luck finding all the ICs. I mean seriously, if you weigh up cost and time for that project against what you're gonna get for your EII, it makes no sense. Unless you have tons of spare time to kill and commercial ambitions to sell it as a mass produced viable EII replacement. But even then, I don't think the vintage sampler lover's market is large enough to justify it. Just my 2 cents...

The Emax I would probably be as close as you can get to the EII if you decided to sell and looking for a cheaper alternative.

Good luck!
George



--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Adrien" wrote:
>
> Please, as i never played an emax \u2026 could someone tell me some feedbacks on
> this one, compared to an EMU II ? good ? not as good ?
>
> If a rack version of I don't know which version of the emax will be the same
> as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when
> you sample something with an emax ?
>
> I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax
> was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adrien
>
>
>
> Ps, I've listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I'd be totaly crazy if
> I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
>
> The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable
> sampler but \u2026 I would be crazy too.
>
> Several of each in the emu II as you know :
>
>
>
> 74LS00
>
> 74LS04
>
> 74LS08
>
> 74LS10
>
> 74LS11
>
> 74LS14
>
> 74LS20
>
>; 74LS32
>
> 74LS42
>
> 74LS54
>
> 74LS74
>
> 74LS86
>
> 74LS92
>
> 74LS112
>
> 74LS138
>
> 74LE164
>
> 74LS174
>
> 74LS221
>
> 74LS244
>
> 74LS273
>
> 74LS374
>
> 74LS393
>
> 74LS670
>
> 74C244
>
> 74S00
>
> 74S37
>
> 74S74
>
> 74S112
>
> 74S138
>
> 74S174
>
> 74S175
>
> 74S181
>
> 74S240
>
> 74S244
>
> 74S283
>
> 74S374
>
> 74S472
>
> 74HCT04
>
> 74HCT08
>
> 74HCT11
>
> 74HCT32
>
> 74HCT74
>
> 74HCT86
>
> 74HCT138
>
> 74HCT151
>
> 74HCT174
>
> 74HCT244
>
> 74HCT273
>
> 74HCT374
>
> 74HCT393
>
> ADC0809
>
> AD7524J
>
> Z80APIO
>
> Z80ADMA
>
> Z80ACPU
>
> Z80ACTC
>
> Z80ASIO2
>
> 1302
>
> 1488
>
> 1489
>
> 3202
>
> 4164
>
> 4764
>
> 7407
>
> 7408
>
> 9128
>
> 4051B
>
> 4070B
>
> 6072
>
> 2149H-3
>
> 2764-3
>
> 8254-2
>
> 14559B
>
> SCN2651
>
> TL084
>
> DG202
>
> S3528
>
> LF311
>
> LF356
>
> MC34004P
>
> SSM2045
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
> Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
> À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
>
>
>
>
> Oberheim DPX-1 ?
>
> WT
>
> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "adrien" <;ad9@... ad9%40free.fr> >
> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

> emulatorII-list%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
> > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
>
> > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
>
> > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> > designer.
> > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > Thanks !
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

 ;

Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-14 by James Ulibarri

Chip harvesting like you're doing is probably a good idea.�
Nice work. :) �


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:14 AM, "Adrien" <ad9@...> wrote:

Ha ha�!� yeah i told before i’d be crazy to clone it … how long time it would take in my short life … doing music is better, i agree ! : D

But well, this evening I have some energy to burn, to start and finish a joe bonamassa germanium fuzz , and have fun with it ^^

I just hope that my emu won’t break, or I won’t know how to discover what part or chip isn’t working : is there a method for this ?

I’m thinking of buying all the chips needed for an emu II, so I’ll can fix it if anything happens.

Adrien

De�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de James Ulibarri
Envoyé�: mercred
i 14 septembre 2011 20:04
À�: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Objet�: Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

I have been biting my lip on this topic also.� I know better now not to say anything on this kind of stuff.
Why not just focus all your time and energy on making music with your Emu's rather than this constant mad scientist science project
stuff with these old machines.� I am done doing all that.� Now it's time to make a ton of trax with all this cool Emu stuff I have collected and serviced.� The best advice you're going to get is once you have a machine that works right...� Just make music with it.
I think most people, like myself at times, forget about that part and lose their focus.� Little mods here and there is ok.
But cloning it or re-engineering the whole entire thing is totally mental.� You'll waste your time and money.

Make a track today with your EII if you have all this time and energy to burn.� :)



On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, trickstar303 <trickstar303@...> wrote:

Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy and dont mean to be a buzz killer, but why don't you simply keep your EII if you like the sound so much and save yourself all the trouble of rebuilding/clone it?! That project is going to cost you TONS of time and money and good luck finding all the ICs. I mean seriously, if you weigh up cost and time for that project against what you're gonna get for your EII, it makes no sense. Unless you have tons of spare time to kill and commercial ambitions to sell it as a mass produced viable EII replacement. But even then, I don't think the vintage sampler lover's market is large enough to justify it. Just my 2 cents...

The Emax I would probably be as close as you can get to the EII if you decided to sell and looking for a cheaper alternative.

Good luck!
George



--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Adrien" wrote:
>
> Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks on
> this one, compared to an EMU II ? good ? not as good ?
>
> If a rack version of I don't know which version of the emax will be the same
> as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic when
> you sample something with an emax ?
>
> I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the emax
> was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adrien
>
>
>
> Ps, I've listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I'd be totaly crazy if
> I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
>
> The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable
> sampler but … I would be crazy too.
>
> Several of each in the emu II as you know :
>
>
>
> 74LS00
>
> 74LS04
>
> 74LS08
>
> 74LS10
>
> 74LS11
>
> 74LS14
>
> 74LS20
>
> 74LS32
>
> 74LS42
>
> 74LS54
>
> 74LS74
>
> 74LS86
>
> 74LS92
>
> 74LS112
>
> 74LS138
>
> 74LE164
>
> 74LS174
>
> 74LS221
>
> 74LS244
>
> 74LS273
>
> 74LS374
>
> 74LS393
>
> 74LS670
>
> 74C244
>
> 74S00
>
> 74S37
>
> 74S74
>
> 74S112
>
> 74S138
>
> 74S174
>
> 74S175
>
> 74S181
>
> 74S240
>
> 74S244
>
> 74S283
>
> 74S374
>
> 74S472
>
> 74HCT04
>
> 74HCT08
>
> 74HCT11
>
> 74HCT32
>
> 74HCT74
>
> 74HCT86
>
> 74HCT138
>
> 74HCT151
>
> 74HCT174
>
> 74HCT244
>
> 74HCT273
>
> 74HCT374
>
> 74HCT393
>
> ADC0809
>
> AD7524J
>
> Z80APIO
>
> Z80ADMA
>
> Z80ACPU
>
> Z80ACTC
>
> Z80ASIO2
>
> 1302
>
> 1488
>
> 1489
>
> 3202
>
> 4164
>
> 4764
>
> 7407
>
> 7408
>
> 9128
>
> 4051B
>
> 4070B
>
> 6072
>
> 2149H-3
>
> 2764-3
>
> 8254-2
>
> 14559B
>
> SCN2651
>
> TL084
>
> DG202
>
> S3528
>
> LF311
>
> LF356
>
> MC34004P
>
> SSM2045
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
> Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
> À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
>
>
>
>
> Oberheim DPX-1 ?
>
> WT
>
> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "adrien" ad9%40free.fr> >
> To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com

> emulatorII-list%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
>
> > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about this.
>
> > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the boards,
> > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply, simply
>
> > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> > designer.
> > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or to
> > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > Thanks !
> >;
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>; >
> >
>

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Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-14 by trickstar303

Agreed! Let's all focus on what's important: The Music! :-)

I spent in the past years soooo much time discussing, researching synths and other equipment etc, literally splitting hairs, for example when I bought a Prophet 5...what version to buy? A Rev. 2 or 3? I ended up getting a Rev.2 because it supposedly sounded better. Waste of time! You'd never be able to hear the difference between those 2 in a mix. Same applies to an EII and an Emax I! Period. I'm done with that kind of nonsense. :-)

cheers
George


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> I have been biting my lip on this topic also.  I know better now not to say
> anything on this kind of stuff.
> Why not just focus all your time and energy on making music with your Emu's
> rather than this constant mad scientist science project
> stuff with these old machines.  I am done doing all that.  Now it's time to
> make a ton of trax with all this cool Emu stuff I have collected and
> serviced.  The best advice you're going to get is once you have a machine
> that works right...  Just make music with it.
> I think most people, like myself at times, forget about that part and lose
> their focus.  Little mods here and there is ok.
> But cloning it or re-engineering the whole entire thing is totally mental.
> You'll waste your time and money.
> 
> Make a track today with your EII if you have all this time and energy to
> burn.  :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, trickstar303 <trickstar303@...>wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy and dont mean to be a buzz killer, but why
> > don't you simply keep your EII if you like the sound so much and save
> > yourself all the trouble of rebuilding/clone it?! That project is going to
> > cost you TONS of time and money and good luck finding all the ICs. I mean
> > seriously, if you weigh up cost and time for that project against what
> > you're gonna get for your EII, it makes no sense. Unless you have tons of
> > spare time to kill and commercial ambitions to sell it as a mass produced
> > viable EII replacement. But even then, I don't think the vintage sampler
> > lover's market is large enough to justify it. Just my 2 cents...
> >
> > The Emax I would probably be as close as you can get to the EII if you
> > decided to sell and looking for a cheaper alternative.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > George
> >
> >
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Adrien" <ad9@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks
> > on
> > > this one, compared to an EMU II ? good ? not as good ?
> > >
> > > If a rack version of I don't know which version of the emax will be the
> > same
> > > as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic
> > when
> > > you sample something with an emax ?
> > >
> > > I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the
> > emax
> > > was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Adrien
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ps, I've listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I'd be totaly crazy
> > if
> > > I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
> > >
> > > The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable
> > > sampler but … I would be crazy too.
> > >
> > > Several of each in the emu II as you know :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 74LS00
> > >
> > > 74LS04
> > >
> > > 74LS08
> > >
> > > 74LS10
> > >
> > > 74LS11
> > >
> > > 74LS14
> > >
> > > 74LS20
> > >
> > > 74LS32
> > >
> > > 74LS42
> > >
> > > 74LS54
> > >
> > > 74LS74
> > >
> > > 74LS86
> > >
> > > 74LS92
> > >
> > > 74LS112
> > >
> > > 74LS138
> > >
> > > 74LE164
> > >
> > > 74LS174
> > >
> > > 74LS221
> > >
> > > 74LS244
> > >
> > > 74LS273
> > >
> > > 74LS374
> > >
> > > 74LS393
> > >
> > > 74LS670
> > >
> > > 74C244
> > >
> > > 74S00
> > >
> > > 74S37
> > >
> > > 74S74
> > >
> > > 74S112
> > >
> > > 74S138
> > >
> > > 74S174
> > >
> > > 74S175
> > >
> > > 74S181
> > >
> > > 74S240
> > >
> > > 74S244
> > >
> > > 74S283
> > >
> > > 74S374
> > >
> > > 74S472
> > >
> > > 74HCT04
> > >
> > > 74HCT08
> > >
> > > 74HCT11
> > >
> > > 74HCT32
> > >
> > > 74HCT74
> > >
> > > 74HCT86
> > >
> > > 74HCT138
> > >
> > > 74HCT151
> > >
> > > 74HCT174
> > >
> > > 74HCT244
> > >
> > > 74HCT273
> > >
> > > 74HCT374
> > >
> > > 74HCT393
> > >
> > > ADC0809
> > >
> > > AD7524J
> > >
> > > Z80APIO
> > >
> > > Z80ADMA
> > >
> > > Z80ACPU
> > >
> > > Z80ACTC
> > >
> > > Z80ASIO2
> > >
> > > 1302
> > >
> > > 1488
> > >
> > > 1489
> > >
> > > 3202
> > >
> > > 4164
> > >
> > > 4764
> > >
> > > 7407
> > >
> > > 7408
> > >
> > > 9128
> > >
> > > 4051B
> > >
> > > 4070B
> > >
> > > 6072
> > >
> > > 2149H-3
> > >
> > > 2764-3
> > >
> > > 8254-2
> > >
> > > 14559B
> > >
> > > SCN2651
> > >
> > > TL084
> > >
> > > DG202
> > >
> > > S3528
> > >
> > > LF311
> > >
> > > LF356
> > >
> > > MC34004P
> > >
> > > SSM2045
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
> > > Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
> > > À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oberheim DPX-1 ?
> > >
> > > WT
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "adrien" <ad9@ <mailto:ad9%40free.fr> >
> > > To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:emulatorII-list%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> > > Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
> > >
> > > > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about
> > this.
> > >
> > > > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> > > > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
> >
> > > > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> > > > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the
> > boards,
> > > > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply,
> > simply
> > >
> > > > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> > > > designer.
> > > > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or
> > to
> > > > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > > > Thanks !
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [emulatorII-list] Re: Cloning an emulator II ..

2011-09-15 by John B

I had an idea of finding a dead EII and gutting it. �Placing a small LCD where the drives were and replacing the inerds with a good PC MB and an Emulator X sound card or a 8 output I/O audio interface like Maudio fast track ultra 8r. �Some case modiing a couple solid state drives and mount a keybord and track pad on the top right of the case and you have a way cool workstation. �

Yes obviously I get obsessed with Emus as well. �I still regret selling my emax hd plus 10 yrs ago. �If I get another it will never be sold!

Sent from
jRB
Have a loverly whatever....

On Sep 14, 2011, at 4:40 PM, "trickstar303" <trickstar303@...> wrote:

Agreed! Let's all focus on what's important: The Music! :-)

I spent in the past years soooo much time discussing, researching synths and other equipment etc, literally splitting hairs, for example when I bought a Prophet 5...what version to buy? A Rev. 2 or 3? I ended up getting a Rev.2 because it supposedly sounded better. Waste of time! You'd never be able to hear the difference between those 2 in a mix. Same applies to an EII and an Emax I! Period. I'm done with that kind of nonsense. :-)

cheers
George

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
>
> I have been biting my lip on this topic also. I know better now not to say
> anything on this kind of stuff.
> Why not just focus all your time and energy on making music with your Emu's
> rather than this constant mad scientist science project
> stuff with these old machines. I am done doing all that. Now it's time to
> make a ton of trax with all this cool Emu stuff I have collected and
> serviced. The best advice you're going to get is once you have a machine
> that works right... Just make music with it.
> I think most people, like myself at times, forget about that part and lose
> their focus. Little mods here and there is ok.
> But cloning it or re-engineering the whole entire thing is totally mental.
> You'll waste your time and money.
>
> Make a track today with your EII if you have all this time and energy to
> burn. :)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:43 AM, trickstar303 wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I hate to be THAT guy and dont mean to be a buzz killer, but why
> > don't you simply keep your EII if you like the sound so much and save
> > yourself all the trouble of rebuilding/clone it?! That project is going to
> > cost you TONS of time and money and good luck finding all the ICs. I mean
> > seriously, if you weigh up cost and time for that project against what
> > you're gonna get for your EII, it makes no sense. Unless you have tons of
> > spare time to kill and commercial ambitions to sell it as a mass produced
> > viable EII replacement. But even then, I don't think the vintage sampler
> > lover's market is large enough to justify it. Just my 2 cents...
> >
> > The Emax I would probably be as close as you can get to the EII if you
> > decided to sell and looking for a cheaper alternative.
> >
> > Good luck!
> > George
> >
> >
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "Adrien" wrote:
> > >
> > > Please, as i never played an emax … could someone tell me some feedbacks
> > on
> > > this one, compared to an EMU II ? good ? not as good ?
> > >
> > > If a rack version of I don't know which version of the emax will be the
> >; same
> > > as having a real emulator II, I could go for it. Is it the same magic
> > when
> > > you sample something with an emax ?
> > >
> > > I read that it uses an E-Chip , ( no SSM 2045 inside, right ? ) and the
> > emax
> > > was supposed to emulate the emulator II. Is it right ? is it good ? ; )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Adrien
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ps, I've listed all the chips of the emulator II, and I'd be totaly crazy
> > if
> > > I would continue this project to clone the emu II !!! lol
> > >
> > > The best would be to be able to transform a dpx-1 into a controllable
> > > sampler but … I would be crazy too.
> > >
> > > Several of each in the emu II as you know :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 74LS00
> > >
>; > > 74LS04
> > >
> > > 74LS08
> > >
> > > 74LS10
> > >
> > > 74LS11
> > >
> > > 74LS14
> > >
>; > > 74LS20
> > >
> > > 74LS32
> > >
> > > 74LS42
> > >
> > > 74LS54
> > >
> > > 74LS74
> > >
>; > > 74LS86
> > >
> > > 74LS92
> > >
> > > 74LS112
> > >
> > > 74LS138
> > >
> > > 74LE164
> > >
> > > 74LS174
> > >
> > > 74LS221
> > >
> > > 74LS244
> > >
> > > 74LS273
> > >
> > > 74LS374
> > >
> > > 74LS393
> > >
> > > 74LS670
> > >
> > > 74C244
> > >
> >; > 74S00
> > >
> > > 74S37
> > >
> > > 74S74
> > >
> > > 74S112
> > >
> > > 74S138
> > >
> > > 74S174
> > >
> > > 74S175
> > >
> > > 74S181
> > >
> > > 74S240
> > >
> > > 74S244
> > >
> > > 74S283
> > >
> > > 74S374
> > >
> > > 74S472
> > >
> > > 74HCT04
> > >
> > > 74HCT08
> > >
> > > 74HCT11
> > >
> > > 74HCT32
> > >
> > > 74HCT74
> > >
> > > 74HCT86
> > >
> > > 74HCT138
> > >
>; > > 74HCT151
> > >
> > > 74HCT174
>; > >
> > > 74HCT244
> > >
> > > 74HCT273
> > >
> > > 74HCT374
> > >
> > > 74HCT393
> > >
> > > ADC0809
> > >
> > > AD7524J
> > >
> > > Z80APIO
> > >
> > > Z80ADMA
> > >
> > > Z80ACPU
> > >
> > > Z80ACTC
> > >
> > > Z80ASIO2
> > >
> > > 1302
> > >
> > > 1488
> > >
> > > 1489
> > >
> > > 3202
> > >
> > > 4164
> > >
> >; > 4764
> > >
> > > 7407
> > >
> > > 7408
> > >
> > > 9128
> > >
> > > 4051B
> > >
> > > 4070B
> > >
> > > 6072
> > >
> > > 2149H-3
> > >
> > > 2764-3
> >; >
> > > 8254-2
> > >
> > > 14559B
> > >
> > > SCN2651
> > >
>; > > TL084
> > >
> > > DG202
> > >
> > > S3528
> > >
> > > LF311
> > >
> > > LF356
> > >
> >; > MC34004P
> > >
> > > SSM2045
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >; >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > De : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com] De la part de WT
> > > Envoyé : lundi 12 septembre 2011 08:45
> > > À : emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > Objet : Re: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >; > Oberheim DPX-1 ?
> > >
> > > WT
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "adrien" >
> > > To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
> > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 8:43 AM
> >; > Subject: [emulatorII-list] Cloning an emulator II ..
> > >
> > > > Hello ! Well this might make you laugh but i woke up thiniking about
> > this.
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> > > > I'm selling my emu II, but i started to think at what i'll loose
> > > > differently now. And the best would be to clone it, like for the guitar
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> > > > effects. But for those who know the emu inside,what do you think ? Are
> > > > there some equivalent chips ? I could reproduce the circuits, the
> > boards,
> > > > and have something like a rack version, With a modern power supply,
> > simply
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> > > > communicating with a built in emuser and a pc, or a mac with sound
> > > > designer.
> > > > But if some parts of the circuit are completely impossible to find or
>; > to
> > > > replace, i have to forget it. Can we work on this, please ?
> > > > Thanks !
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