Hex,
you're right. My tune has changed a little as being Mr. helpful to this list by being constantly blasted in the other forum. Which isn't fair really to this list but I am still talking to Crystal Fontz for a solution. I think the gibberish characters is out of their control, but I will call right now and find out.
I still have the label thing I am working on too (thanks to Elm for the high quality scan) and should be done next week or at least the prototype. Forat finished the black LCD 1200 and I guess it's pretty cool. I'll have pics on Monday of that. It was a white on black 80x36 and will fit the EII also. Just re-chip the EII and remove the inverter. Or I will ask Bruce his solution how he removese the gibberish. But I think he jumps like crazy to get his LCD's to work. I'm not sure, but I will ask.
Ok, update....
I talked to Tim at Crystal Fontz today. The run of 84x44's can probably be made with the holes in the right place. He wants drawings or possibly the drilled LCD back to him so he will know exactly where they need to drill. Regarding the gibberish he said they can put in a Frame Ground (JFG) on the LCD's to suppress the noise. Does that make sense to anyone? Apparently these new LCD's pick up more noise than the older ones.
I think it's a six to one half dozen of another situation. My money is on the 80x36 right now. No wait time, a dab of glue, chip swap, and you're sorted.
I'll post pics when I get them.
James
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:16 AM, hexafuzz
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emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
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> So at this point. I would say someone else should take over the group buy if
> you still want them. There is no point I feel to go after an 84x44 that
> doesn't even line up without drilling new holes. It's not really worth
> getting them made and waiting two months.
Agreed. However CrystalFontz is the one with a pre-existing relationship and dialog with the manufacturers in China. If we were to do a group buy the question was; would they be able to make a drilled correctly batch of ten to -our- specs for a gibberish free drop-in replacement. *That* is what was worth having them made and waiting two months. Did you happen to touch upon this in your conversations with them? If this was truly the case, I might even consider buying a few extras to stock for our members.
> Now the vintage purists
> will probably just want to get a new old stock EII display. But that's not
> important to me. I want something that that I can see. Plus having an
> original display with things coming down the pike such as the HxCs doesn't
> make much sense to me. If a person gets that mod it won't really be
> "original" anymore will it?
FWIW: The point to me here (at least as a group moderator) was not to cater to purists or keep the E-II original. It was to obtain a genuine replacement part that anyone here could order and install themselves with a minimum of hassle and tech knowledge. ;)
At any rate, thanks again for all your work/time on this James!
-Hex
2010-11-19 by hexafuzz
Thanks James. At this point I dont think you should do anything more unless we have a commitment for ten units from the group. I will create a group poll where everyone can verify how many they want.
If enough people here are interested, then we can worry about sending Tim a sample LCD.
-Hex
2010-11-19 by elmbeatz
"....for the high quality scan..."
If there was some more space on this group, or in the EIII forum, I could also drop a zip containing the scans to be accessible to anyone on these groups.
Is there some space somewhere?
2010-11-19 by Kenneth Abildgaard
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Best;
Kenneth.�
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"....for the high quality scan..."
If there was some more space on this group, or in the EIII forum, I could also drop a zip containing the scans to be accessible to anyone on these groups.
Is there some space somewhere?
2010-11-19 by elmbeatz
just to get this correct:
"...a drop-in replacement E-II LCD" would mean a replacement display that is 'plug and play' right? I'm all left-handed in these things, so for me, it would have to be plug and play ;)
2010-11-19 by hexafuzz
> just to get this correct:
> "...a drop-in replacement E-II LCD" would mean a replacement display
> that is 'plug and play' right? I'm all left-handed in these things,
> so for me, it would have to be plug and play ;)
Yes Elm, plug and play functionality is what I would like to see if we are placing an advance custom order for ten (or more) of these.
2010-11-19 by blchrr@homecall.co.uk
Hi there fellas,
Been on this list for a while but not posted!
Anyway.. im selling my Oberheim DPX1, os 2.2, not expanded.
As you guys know its like an EII synth engine so for you guys with EII's an
opportunity to expand... having the EII free for other duties ;)
Im asking £150 for it and its in perfect shape with a few disks.
Both disk drives are working great.
Send me a mail if its something your looking!
Best,
Rob.
2010-11-22 by memorymoog1@gmail.com
I'm interested in getting one.
--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hexafuzz" <gclip@...> wrote:
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>
>
> > just to get this correct:
> > "...a drop-in replacement E-II LCD" would mean a replacement display
> > that is 'plug and play' right? I'm all left-handed in these things,
> > so for me, it would have to be plug and play ;)
>
> Yes Elm, plug and play functionality is what I would like to see if we are placing an advance custom order for ten (or more) of these.
>
2010-11-23 by James Ulibarri
Don't forget about the 80x36's that will fit the EII also. Here are some poor pics of my 1200's.
One with with white on blue and the new one with a white on black LCD. The white on black LCD kinda came out blue'ish in the photograph but it's black. Two screws fit and
you have to glue part of the PCB as discussed. The EII and SP1200 fitment is the same.
* I am not trying to undermine the poll that Hex rolled out. I was just posting pics as promised of the black LCD. Crystal Fontz can make the black LCD's and there is a two month wait time. The only 84x44 they stock is green. But this size works also with slight mods.
2010-11-23 by James Ulibarri
2010-11-23 by hexafuzz
Blue or White on Black would be my first choice as well. We can discuss this if we ever have an order for ten units. Right now we only have a commitment for six.
REMINDER: If anyone wants in on this you need to add your name to the poll:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emulatorII-list/surveys?id=3010595
2010-11-23 by elmbeatz
How would payment and shipping be handeled?
Does Hex order all units first and then ship them into all parts of the world?
Would we pay first and then wait?
I'm asking, because I've had to make VERY BAD experience with a particular member of THIS group in some other deal (hard to believe, but it's like that). I paid money, nothing happened yet. That was over a year ago (or even longer). Very sad.
Greetz,
Elm.
2010-11-23 by hexafuzz
> How would payment and shipping be handled?
> Would we pay first and then wait?
I am only trying to gather enough members to make a purchase possible, otherwise I am just a customer same as everyone else.
Everyone will pay CrystalFontz directly and *they* will be responsible for fulfillment. Price of the LCDs desired (after our quantity discount) plus shipping to your location.
Again, final pricing and terms of sale cannot be negotiated or agreed upon with CrystalFontz until we have enough members to place an order.
> I'm asking, because I've had to make VERY BAD experience with a
> particular member of THIS group in some other deal (hard to believe,
> but it's like that). I paid money, nothing happened yet. That was
> over a year ago (or even longer). Very sad.
I am sorry to hear this. Was this for an Emulator-II related item transacted through this group? If so, this kind of problem should be reported to the moderators and/or group at large. Not only to warn/protect other members, but also to give the seller an opportunity to present his side of the story and hopefully offer some kind of resolution.
-Hex
2010-11-23 by James Ulibarri
I think Tim from CF wants one payment from one person. And they want it in advance from what I gather before they go into production. Elm, this is not a lot of money for the part even if you lost it. I have opted out to handle all that due to time constraints and I would be afraid of someone turning on me if something goes wrong. You would also need someone to ship them all out. Tim said minimum of two months or maybe longer due to production times in China right now. I'll call Tim again if you want me to this week. But this is what I thought he said.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:21 AM, hexafuzz
<gclip@...> wrote:
> How would payment and shipping be handled?
> Would we pay first and then wait?
I am only trying to gather enough members to make a purchase possible, otherwise I am just a customer same as everyone else.
Everyone will pay CrystalFontz directly and *they* will be responsible for fulfillment. Price of the LCDs desired (after our quantity discount) plus shipping to your location.
Again, final pricing and terms of sale cannot be negotiated or agreed upon with CrystalFontz until we have enough members to place an order.
> I'm asking, because I've had to make VERY BAD experience with a
> particular member of THIS group in some other deal (hard to believe,
> but it's like that). I paid money, nothing happened yet. That was
> over a year ago (or even longer). Very sad.
I am sorry to hear this. Was this for an Emulator-II related item transacted through this group? If so, this kind of problem should be reported to the moderators and/or group at large. Not only to warn/protect other members, but also to give the seller an opportunity to present his side of the story and hopefully offer some kind of resolution.
-Hex
2010-11-23 by hexafuzz
> I think Tim from CF wants one payment from one person.
Ultimately, Tim needs to be willing to work with us concerning terms of sale and product compatibility if he wants our business.
If he needs his money up front I can understand that and he'll have it, but hes going to receive payment from and ship to each buyer individually. Ive been part of many group buys and thats how it works.
> I'll call Tim again if you want me to this week.
Once again, there is no reason to contact him unless we have enough buyers to negotiate a deal. According to the poll, it looks like that may not happen...
Thanks James.
2010-11-23 by hexafuzz
OK, looks like we have a commitment for ten units. I will leave the poll open through the weekend to allow for others who may be late to the party. We can contact Tim at CrystalFontz next week (they are closed for the Thanksgiving holiday) and discuss what is required on his end.
Of the people who have already signed on, what color combination is most desired? White Text on Black, Blue Text on Black, or White Text on Blue? I have created a photo album called "CrystalFontz LCD" with color samples and James's LCD photos:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emulatorII-list/photos
I have also created a Buyers List database where you can enter your preferences:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emulatorII-list/database
Does anyone have a removed or defective E-II LCD we can send to Tim at CrystalFontz so he can take exact measurements for mounting specs and compatibility issues?
2010-11-23 by James Ulibarri
I have my old EII original LCD I can send to him. After Turkey Day of course.
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:59 AM, hexafuzz
<gclip@...> wrote:
OK, looks like we have a commitment for ten units. I will leave the poll open through the weekend to allow for others who may be late to the party. We can contact Tim at CrystalFontz next week (they are closed for the Thanksgiving holiday) and discuss what is required on his end.
Of the people who have already signed on, what color combination is most desired? White Text on Black, Blue Text on Black, or White Text on Blue? I have created a photo album called "CrystalFontz LCD" with color samples and James's LCD photos:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emulatorII-list/photos
I have also created a Buyers List database where you can enter your preferences:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/emulatorII-list/database
Does anyone have a removed or defective E-II LCD we can send to Tim at CrystalFontz so he can take exact measurements for mounting specs and compatibility issues?
