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Hi EII community!
I think some of you who have DPX-1 and subscribed for dpx1 group have seen my post there. For others I show this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9UBxyhbOU

My question to you - Do you need it for EII? 
We have two ways for data transfer - Sound Designer and EMXP. 
Do you really need the third?

I decided for my self to stay on Powerbook 180c with SD but it could be a solution for people with early serial numbers that don't have RS422 for communication. 
Andrei.

YES YES YES YES !!! ! ! ! !   !

This rocks man!

THIS ROCKS!

do you build these readers?

Wow, that's great.
You finished that project quite fast !

I'm wondering: you replaced the 5.25 "EII" drive on your DPX.
But as far as I understand the HxC emulator that you have built into the DPX uses the floppy disk format of the 3.5 "DPX" disks.
So did you disable the raw EII option on your DPX and can you only use emulated DPX disks now ? (e.g. by first transforming EII files to DPX format with DPXTOOLS and then saving them to your HxC disk) ?

I think we really would welcome this option on the EII itself too !
But note that the disk specifications of the EII are completely different from the DPX. That's why EII disks (either 3.5 or 5.25) can not be read or written on any PC or Mac, as opposed to DPX disks.
Do you think that the HxC can even overcome this problem ??


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "andrei.kudryavtsev" <andrei.kudryavtsev@...> wrote:
>
> Hi EII community!
> I think some of you who have DPX-1 and subscribed for dpx1 group have seen my post there. For others I show this video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9UBxyhbOU
> 
> My question to you - Do you need it for EII? 
> We have two ways for data transfer - Sound Designer and EMXP. 
> Do you really need the third?
> 
> I decided for my self to stay on Powerbook 180c with SD but it could be a solution for people with early serial numbers that don't have RS422 for communication. 
> Andrei.
>

> My question to you - Do you need it for EII? 
> We have two ways for data transfer - Sound Designer and EMXP. 
> Do you really need the third?

Hi Andrei,
Will it be possible to store and retrieve multiple EII images from one SD memory card, or is this limited to just one EII image per SD memory card?

I am currently storing all my Sound Designer banks on one 2gb SD memory card using a PCMCIA card reader with a Powerbook 5300cs. If you are talking about the same capability without needing the Mac, its a very nice idea. :)

In any case, thanks for posting & nice work!
-Hex

There is an interesting piece of information on the HXC website which took my attention with respect to the SD card version of the emulator:

(...)
Track mode based floppy emulator (Full track pre-encoded in the HFE image file)
> Read support: Most of existing formats (FM/MFM/Amiga track...) supported. Custom tracks supported.
> Write support: ISO MFM 256/512/1024Bytes sector write supported. 
(...)

The EII uses non-standard sectorsizes [no sectors in fact ?], so writing seems not to be an option, but that's not a big problem for most EII users.

But the more interesting part is that reading is *track mode* based with "full tracks pre-encoded in HFE image".
The only information about the EII disks we have so far is that they have 2-sides, 80 tracks per side and 3584 bytes per track (no hard sectors). Would the "track mode" of the HXC be capable of dealing with these 3584 byte tracks ?

I really think that replacing one of those EII drives by an SD card drive, with tens/hundreds of EII files saved on that SD card (via PC) would be a magnificent feature for EII owners. Just like on the youtube movie with the DPX.

An alternative is to use the RS422 port and build a standalone RS422/USB device which would do almost the same thing as the HXC drive but then via RS422. The load time would be almost the same I guess (20-30 seconds). This device could be an evolution of the emucombox device, but the design has not started yet.
The advantage of the HXC would be that the EII could even boot from the SD card (or not ???) and that it could contain full disk images (including OS) instead of 'just' the banks. So this would be the preferred option; also for non-RS422 EII owners as you said.

Again... interesting experiment, so I really encourage you to further investigate this :-)
 
Man, these old samplers are really getting upgraded to the 21st century !

///E-Synthesist

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
>
> Wow, that's great.
> You finished that project quite fast !
> 
> I'm wondering: you replaced the 5.25 "EII" drive on your DPX.
> But as far as I understand the HxC emulator that you have built into the DPX uses the floppy disk format of the 3.5 "DPX" disks.
> So did you disable the raw EII option on your DPX and can you only use emulated DPX disks now ? (e.g. by first transforming EII files to DPX format with DPXTOOLS and then saving them to your HxC disk) ?
> 
> I think we really would welcome this option on the EII itself too !
> But note that the disk specifications of the EII are completely different from the DPX. That's why EII disks (either 3.5 or 5.25) can not be read or written on any PC or Mac, as opposed to DPX disks.
> Do you think that the HxC can even overcome this problem ??
> 
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "andrei.kudryavtsev" <andrei.kudryavtsev@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi EII community!
> > I think some of you who have DPX-1 and subscribed for dpx1 group have seen my post there. For others I show this video:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9UBxyhbOU
> > 
> > My question to you - Do you need it for EII? 
> > We have two ways for data transfer - Sound Designer and EMXP. 
> > Do you really need the third?
> > 
> > I decided for my self to stay on Powerbook 180c with SD but it could be a solution for people with early serial numbers that don't have RS422 for communication. 
> > Andrei.
> >
>

look here, this is creator of this project:
http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/
You can buy directly from him. 60 pounds as I remember. 

I do NOT make any money on selling floppy emulators. I do not manufacture any related to HxC hardware.  

The project was free some time ago. Jeff(the owner) provided all schematics and FW but a little bit later some people made complete units based on his development and started to sell it with some re-branding but it was the same HW and FW.... After that Jeff decided  to make production units and sell it by himself. 

p.s. but I still used prototype HW made by myself just because I downloaded everything earlier then he removed from site ))))

And the other thing - the most important part is floppy image conversion. Jeff added support of DPX1 in few hours!!! )
Andrei, www.deftaudio.ru

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@...> wrote:
>
> YES YES YES YES !!! ! ! ! !   !
> 
> This rocks man!
> 
> THIS ROCKS!
> 
> do you build these readers?
>

Hi Hex, 
Multiple!!!
AS MUCH AS you wish!!!! )))))

http://hxc2001.free.fr/floppy_drive_emulator/
SD card formatted in FAT32, so, you just copy files you need from PC(because first of all you need to convert it from DPX1 format to HxC) and then you can select image from SDCard emulator. - check video, I know the quality of LCD text is poor but you can see there at least two different file names. 

The small issue I got is bad scrolling of long file name(but it's related to early HW and FW I used). If you by production unit directly form Jeff the you'll not see any issues. 

p.s. I'm not sales person or Jeff's employee ))))

p.s. don't forget - it's currently support only DPX1 not EII!


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hexafuzz" <gclip@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > My question to you - Do you need it for EII? 
> > We have two ways for data transfer - Sound Designer and EMXP. 
> > Do you really need the third?
> 
> Hi Andrei,
> Will it be possible to store and retrieve multiple EII images from one SD memory card, or is this limited to just one EII image per SD memory card?
> 
> I am currently storing all my Sound Designer banks on one 2gb SD memory card using a PCMCIA card reader with a Powerbook 5300cs. If you are talking about the same capability without needing the Mac, its a very nice idea. :)
> 
> In any case, thanks for posting & nice work!
> -Hex
>

Hi Esynthesist,
1. It's the emulation of DPX1 floppy not EII. so that means I converted all E2 images to DPX format by your utility first )))
2. I know they are totally different but we can hope that Jeff will support our initiative!!! look here his latest post:
http://torlus.com/floppy/forum/viewtopic.php?t=393
Can you provide all format details you know there?
3. I replaced 5.25 drive by two reasons - I still need 3.5 (just if something goes wrong with floppy emu) and because bread board is too big for 3.5 size and I needed to find the place for LCD and buttons)))
4. I can't promise that I'll do additional research for EII. I spent half year on restoring my instrument - adding filter mods, burning eproms, servicing all buttons, painting everything and getting working solution with powerbook... I just want enjoy playing on it now )))))))))


Guys, sorry for out-of-topic question but does anybody have Digidrums eproms for Drumulator? I lost hope to find them. 

Andrei. 

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@...> wrote:
>
> There is an interesting piece of information on the HXC website which took my attention with respect to the SD card version of the emulator:
> 
> (...)
> Track mode based floppy emulator (Full track pre-encoded in the HFE image file)
> > Read support: Most of existing formats (FM/MFM/Amiga track...) supported. Custom tracks supported.
> > Write support: ISO MFM 256/512/1024Bytes sector write supported. 
> (...)
> 
> The EII uses non-standard sectorsizes [no sectors in fact ?], so writing seems not to be an option, but that's not a big problem for most EII users.
> 
> But the more interesting part is that reading is *track mode* based with "full tracks pre-encoded in HFE image".
> The only information about the EII disks we have so far is that they have 2-sides, 80 tracks per side and 3584 bytes per track (no hard sectors). Would the "track mode" of the HXC be capable of dealing with these 3584 byte tracks ?
> 
> I really think that replacing one of those EII drives by an SD card drive, with tens/hundreds of EII files saved on that SD card (via PC) would be a magnificent feature for EII owners. Just like on the youtube movie with the DPX.
> 
> An alternative is to use the RS422 port and build a standalone RS422/USB device which would do almost the same thing as the HXC drive but then via RS422. The load time would be almost the same I guess (20-30 seconds). This device could be an evolution of the emucombox device, but the design has not started yet.
> The advantage of the HXC would be that the EII could even boot from the SD card (or not ???) and that it could contain full disk images (including OS) instead of 'just' the banks. So this would be the preferred option; also for non-RS422 EII owners as you said.
> 
> Again... interesting experiment, so I really encourage you to further investigate this :-)
>  
> Man, these old samplers are really getting upgraded to the 21st century !
> 
> ///E-Synthesist
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "esynthesist" <esynthesist@> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, that's great.
> > You finished that project quite fast !
> > 
> > I'm wondering: you replaced the 5.25 "EII" drive on your DPX.
> > But as far as I understand the HxC emulator that you have built into the DPX uses the floppy disk format of the 3.5 "DPX" disks.
> > So did you disable the raw EII option on your DPX and can you only use emulated DPX disks now ? (e.g. by first transforming EII files to DPX format with DPXTOOLS and then saving them to your HxC disk) ?
> > 
> > I think we really would welcome this option on the EII itself too !
> > But note that the disk specifications of the EII are completely different from the DPX. That's why EII disks (either 3.5 or 5.25) can not be read or written on any PC or Mac, as opposed to DPX disks.
> > Do you think that the HxC can even overcome this problem ??
> > 
> > 
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "andrei.kudryavtsev" <andrei.kudryavtsev@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi EII community!
> > > I think some of you who have DPX-1 and subscribed for dpx1 group have seen my post there. For others I show this video:
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G9UBxyhbOU
> > > 
> > > My question to you - Do you need it for EII? 
> > > We have two ways for data transfer - Sound Designer and EMXP. 
> > > Do you really need the third?
> > > 
> > > I decided for my self to stay on Powerbook 180c with SD but it could be a solution for people with early serial numbers that don't have RS422 for communication. 
> > > Andrei.
> > >
> >
>

> Multiple!!!
> AS MUCH AS you wish!!!! )))))
> 
> check video, I know the quality of LCD text is poor but you can see > there at least two different file names. 

OK thanks Andrei. I wasnt sure if those were different disk images or presets within a bank during the video.

This is a great mod for the DPX-1. :) If you have time, please post some internal pictures of your DPX-1 install to our "Oberheim DPX-1 Technical" photo gallery.

Best,
-Hex

Andrei,

I have seen the digidrums on ebay not too long ago. I would keep a  
saved search and you will probably find some with patience. I have a  
couple (african and latin), but I'm not willing to part with them. I  
think I also have an extra set of the factory sounds too and a set  
that has some factory sounds and outputs a trigger signal on a couple  
of channels. I'd be willing to part with those, but not sure how  
useful that would be to anyone these days. I assume if you have a  
drumulator, you have the factory sounds...

Jeremy

> Guys, sorry for out-of-topic question but does anybody have  
> Digidrums eproms for Drumulator? I lost hope to find them.

Hi Hex,
It doesn't look well onside but it works well - the breadboard is full of wires )))))
here is few photos before I put all together to 5.25 case. 
http://www.deftaudio.ru/files/DPX1/00101.jpg
http://www.deftaudio.ru/files/DPX1/00102.jpg

Prototype schematics is a little bit complex than production. It does have three additional logic ICs that was removed later and that's why new FW is different. 
So, again all what I said about minor issues before is only part of prototype and production version is not affected by this. 
I got few emails these days about installing HxC to other instruments, sure, it's 99% possible but first clarify it with Jeff on his forum. He is ready to add support of new floppy formats. 

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hexafuzz" <gclip@...> wrote:
>
> > Multiple!!!
> > AS MUCH AS you wish!!!! )))))
> > 
> > check video, I know the quality of LCD text is poor but you can see > there at least two different file names. 
> 
> OK thanks Andrei. I wasnt sure if those were different disk images or presets within a bank during the video.
> 
> This is a great mod for the DPX-1. :) If you have time, please post some internal pictures of your DPX-1 install to our "Oberheim DPX-1 Technical" photo gallery.
> 
> Best,
> -Hex
>

Thank you for response, Jeremy. 
Basically I'm looking only for eprom binaries I can burn it by myself. And I'm ready to pay but paying for full eprom kit is wasting of time for transportation and to be honest wasting of money. 
Andrei.
--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell <captainjc@...> wrote:
>
> Andrei,
> 
> I have seen the digidrums on ebay not too long ago. I would keep a  
> saved search and you will probably find some with patience. I have a  
> couple (african and latin), but I'm not willing to part with them. I  
> think I also have an extra set of the factory sounds too and a set  
> that has some factory sounds and outputs a trigger signal on a couple  
> of channels. I'd be willing to part with those, but not sure how  
> useful that would be to anyone these days. I assume if you have a  
> drumulator, you have the factory sounds...
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> > Guys, sorry for out-of-topic question but does anybody have  
> > Digidrums eproms for Drumulator? I lost hope to find them.
>

Ah, unfortunately I don't have any way to get the binaries off of them  
for you or I would!

Perhaps it would be worth contacting one of these guys?
http://www.djdab.com/dabframes/MOD.htm
http://www.strellis.com/drumulator.shtml

The electrongate website has binaries for DX/DMX and Drumtraks too. No  
Drumulator though...

> Thank you for response, Jeremy.
> Basically I'm looking only for eprom binaries I can burn it by  
> myself. And I'm ready to pay but paying for full eprom kit is  
> wasting of time for transportation and to be honest wasting of money.
> Andrei.
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell  
> <captainjc@...> wrote:
> >
> > Andrei,
> >
> > I have seen the digidrums on ebay not too long ago. I would keep a
> > saved search and you will probably find some with patience. I have a
> > couple (african and latin), but I'm not willing to part with them. I
> > think I also have an extra set of the factory sounds too and a set
> > that has some factory sounds and outputs a trigger signal on a  
> couple
> > of channels. I'd be willing to part with those, but not sure how
> > useful that would be to anyone these days. I assume if you have a
> > drumulator, you have the factory sounds...
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> > > Guys, sorry for out-of-topic question but does anybody have
> > > Digidrums eproms for Drumulator? I lost hope to find them.
> >

Sorry for the off-topic post, but...

I have a collection of nine EPROM sound libraries for the E-Mu Drumulator. I bought them on eBay earlier this year along with a mint-condition Drumulator. If anyone can offer some guidance on what EPROM reading/writing hardware I need to purchase, I would be very interested in making these available to people.


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell <captainjc@...> wrote:
>
> Ah, unfortunately I don't have any way to get the binaries off of them  
> for you or I would!
> 
> Perhaps it would be worth contacting one of these guys?
> http://www.djdab.com/dabframes/MOD.htm
> http://www.strellis.com/drumulator.shtml
> 
> The electrongate website has binaries for DX/DMX and Drumtraks too. No  
> Drumulator though...
> 
> > Thank you for response, Jeremy.
> > Basically I'm looking only for eprom binaries I can burn it by  
> > myself. And I'm ready to pay but paying for full eprom kit is  
> > wasting of time for transportation and to be honest wasting of money.
> > Andrei.
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell  
> > <captainjc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Andrei,
> > >
> > > I have seen the digidrums on ebay not too long ago. I would keep a
> > > saved search and you will probably find some with patience. I have a
> > > couple (african and latin), but I'm not willing to part with them. I
> > > think I also have an extra set of the factory sounds too and a set
> > > that has some factory sounds and outputs a trigger signal on a  
> > couple
> > > of channels. I'd be willing to part with those, but not sure how
> > > useful that would be to anyone these days. I assume if you have a
> > > drumulator, you have the factory sounds...
> > >
> > > Jeremy
> > >
> > > > Guys, sorry for out-of-topic question but does anybody have
> > > > Digidrums eproms for Drumulator? I lost hope to find them.
> > >
>

Elnec Smartprog2 or similar model.

www.elnec.com

WT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ditabeardmemo" <brandt@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:40 PM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: SD Card instead of floppy


> Sorry for the off-topic post, but...
>
> I have a collection of nine EPROM sound libraries for the E-Mu Drumulator. 
> I bought them on eBay earlier this year along with a mint-condition 
> Drumulator. If anyone can offer some guidance on what EPROM 
> reading/writing hardware I need to purchase, I would be very interested in 
> making these available to people.
>
>
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell <captainjc@...> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, unfortunately I don't have any way to get the binaries off of them
>> for you or I would!
>>
>> Perhaps it would be worth contacting one of these guys?
>> http://www.djdab.com/dabframes/MOD.htm
>> http://www.strellis.com/drumulator.shtml
>>
>> The electrongate website has binaries for DX/DMX and Drumtraks too. No
>> Drumulator though...
>>
>> > Thank you for response, Jeremy.
>> > Basically I'm looking only for eprom binaries I can burn it by
>> > myself. And I'm ready to pay but paying for full eprom kit is
>> > wasting of time for transportation and to be honest wasting of money.
>> > Andrei.
>> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell
>> > <captainjc@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Andrei,
>> > >
>> > > I have seen the digidrums on ebay not too long ago. I would keep a
>> > > saved search and you will probably find some with patience. I have a
>> > > couple (african and latin), but I'm not willing to part with them. I
>> > > think I also have an extra set of the factory sounds too and a set
>> > > that has some factory sounds and outputs a trigger signal on a
>> > couple
>> > > of channels. I'd be willing to part with those, but not sure how
>> > > useful that would be to anyone these days. I assume if you have a
>> > > drumulator, you have the factory sounds...
>> > >
>> > > Jeremy
>> > >
>> > > > Guys, sorry for out-of-topic question but does anybody have
>> > > > Digidrums eproms for Drumulator? I lost hope to find them.
>> > >
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Smartprog - that's too expensive for so simple task. I have Beeprog from elnec but for home use the best for money is Willem:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEWEST-Willem-EPROM-Programmer-PIC-BIOS-Shipfrom-USA-/310127719656?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48350d74e8

I bought this last year in US from the same seller. Works fine!
It requires PC with printer port (LPT version) and it has USB header but only for power supply. I've never checked it with USB-to-LPT converters, suggest you to find old PC.
Andrei.

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "ditabeardmemo" <brandt@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry for the off-topic post, but...
> 
> I have a collection of nine EPROM sound libraries for the E-Mu Drumulator. I bought them on eBay earlier this year along with a mint-condition Drumulator. If anyone can offer some guidance on what EPROM reading/writing hardware I need to purchase, I would be very interested in making these available to people.
> 
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell <captainjc@> wrote:
> >
> > Ah, unfortunately I don't have any way to get the binaries off of them  
> > for you or I would!
> > 
> > Perhaps it would be worth contacting one of these guys?
> > http://www.djdab.com/dabframes/MOD.htm
> > http://www.strellis.com/drumulator.shtml
> > 
> > The electrongate website has binaries for DX/DMX and Drumtraks too. No  
> > Drumulator though...
> > 
> > > Thank you for response, Jeremy.
> > > Basically I'm looking only for eprom binaries I can burn it by  
> > > myself. And I'm ready to pay but paying for full eprom kit is  
> > > wasting of time for transportation and to be honest wasting of money.
> > > Andrei.
> > > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Campbell  
> > > <captainjc@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Andrei,
> > > >
> > > > I have seen the digidrums on ebay not too long ago. I would keep a
> > > > saved search and you will probably find some with patience. I have a
> > > > couple (african and latin), but I'm not willing to part with them. I
> > > > think I also have an extra set of the factory sounds too and a set
> > > > that has some factory sounds and outputs a trigger signal on a  
> > > couple
> > > > of channels. I'd be willing to part with those, but not sure how
> > > > useful that would be to anyone these days. I assume if you have a
> > > > drumulator, you have the factory sounds...
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy
> > > >
> > > > > Guys, sorry for out-of-topic question but does anybody have
> > > > > Digidrums eproms for Drumulator? I lost hope to find them.
> > > >
> >
>

what a waste of time.  Just use the damn floppies already. You guys waste more time trying to hot rod your emulator II verses make any tunes with it.  Get over it already.  It's so played out already trying to hack the machine to use modern storage. Is it really worth all this brain damage at this point? 

Make some good music already!  The mad-scientist science projects get old after a while ya know with machines in pieces, and wires hanging every were doing nothing..

Sorry but I have a good point.

....vut when it works it\ufffds a joy to use.

I hotrodded my Atari 1040 with an Ultrasatan SD-card reader and got rid of 
the painfully noisy old Megafile 30 harddrive. I don\ufffdt miss that !!

It is what it is,  you know.....

WT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jamesulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...>
To: <emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:43 AM
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: SD Card instead of floppy


> what a waste of time.  Just use the damn floppies already. You guys waste 
> more time trying to hot rod your emulator II verses make any tunes with 
> it.  Get over it already.  It's so played out already trying to hack the 
> machine to use modern storage. Is it really worth all this brain damage at 
> this point?
>
> Make some good music already!  The mad-scientist science projects get old 
> after a while ya know with machines in pieces, and wires hanging every 
> were doing nothing..
>
> Sorry but I have a good point.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

From: jamesulibarri
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: SD Card instead of floppy
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010, 8:43 AM

�

what a waste of time. Just use the damn floppies already. You guys waste more time trying to hot rod your emulator II verses make any tunes with it. Get over it already. It's so played out already trying to hack the machine to use modern storage. Is it really worth all this brain damage at this point?

Make some good music already! The mad-scientist science projects get old after a while ya know with machines in pieces, and wires hanging every were doing nothing..

Sorry but I have a good point.

�

Thats a bit of a generalization. email's like that make you sound like a tosser.

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I want a SD card in my EII.. and I use my EII to make music.

I don't want to have to rely on floppies anymore. I've got a few hundred disks, and anything that puts them onto something the size of a fingernail is good.

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If you don't like the idea of a SD card?��Thats fine, obviously not for you... keep it to yourself.

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Sorry, but I have a good point.

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--- On Wed, 28/7/10, jamesulibarri gmail.com> wrote:

From: jamesulibarri gmail.com>
Subject: [emulatorII-list] Re: SD Card instead of floppy
To: emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 28 July, 2010, 8:43 AM

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what a waste of time. Just use the damn floppies already. You guys waste more time trying to hot rod your emulator II verses make any tunes with it. Get over it already. It's so played out already trying to hack the machine to use modern storage. Is it really worth all this brain damage at this point?

Make some good music already! The mad-scientist science projects get old after a while ya know with machines in pieces, and wires hanging every were doing nothing..

Sorry but I have a good point.

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