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Looking for an Emu II bank in the Sound designer format.

Looking for an Emu II bank in the Sound designer format.

2002-11-17 by snapshotsfr

I finally made that MAc to Emu II sound designer cable.

So i'm able to transfer now the whole Library i got from the Three 
Cd roms made for the EII into the Sound designer Format.

I'm looking for some fairlights banks,specially a sound which is a 
weird orchestral string ensembles used a lot by some people 
including into the New order "every little counts".

In fact if you want to trade any banks,you are welcome.
The three cd roms represent more than 1600 banks.

Still there are some very rare collections of floppies disks some of 
you maybe have.

Wave at me ,privately off course.

Cheers

Laurent

Re: [emulatorII-list] Cdrom help

2002-11-17 by Mike Klein

Hi Laurent,
If I may ask you some advice...I'm also trying to
download the Cd rom for the EII into my Sound Designer
program, and the program works great on it's own,
however I can't get the Cdrom drive to be recognized
by the computer, let alone the program. 
I am using a stand alone apple 300 Cdrom connected to
an MacII SE. (via the smaller SCSI port)
Do I need a software driver for this thing? Anyone who
has a working setup please help!!
Thanks, 
Mike 

--- snapshotsfr <snapshotsfr@...> wrote:
> I finally made that MAc to Emu II sound designer
> cable.
> 
> So i'm able to transfer now the whole Library i got
> from the Three 
> Cd roms made for the EII into the Sound designer
> Format.
> 
> I'm looking for some fairlights banks,specially a
> sound which is a 
> weird orchestral string ensembles used a lot by some
> people 
> including into the New order "every little counts".
> 
> In fact if you want to trade any banks,you are
> welcome.
> The three cd roms represent more than 1600 banks.
> 
> Still there are some very rare collections of
> floppies disks some of 
> you maybe have.
> 
> Wave at me ,privately off course.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Laurent
> 
> 


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RE: [emulatorII-list] Cdrom help

2002-11-17 by Rob Keeble

Hi,
The EII sample CDROM's work in a CDROM player connected directly to the EII
over RS422. They cannot be read directly by a Mac or PC, as they are in EII
file format. The only CDROM drives that will work with the EII were made by
OMI and work over RS422 - they are long since obsolete and many have died.
You can load samples from the OMI CDROM into the EII and save the bank to
diskette. Then you can power off and connect up the Mac running SD for EII
to the EII RS422, power on, load the sample and download the sample to the
Mac using SD for EII. You may also be able to get the Mac, CDROM player and
EII working on one RS422 connection, as the CDS3 has RS422 passthrough I
think. You should never unplug the RS422 connection whilst the EII is
powered up - or you may blow the driver chips.

Either way its a long process to migrate the OMI samples from CDROM into SD
for EII. We have about 800 samples done, and the remaining FX samples are
not really worth the effort. We don't distribute these samples as OMI still
exist as QUpArts - so there is a copyright issue. QUparts wanted too much
money for the distribution rights, so we cannot offer them commercially.

We have numerous other EII libraries including the E-mu factory library, FMS
and Burmer Collection.

OMI still sell the original EII CDROM's as well as the same samples in SD
format for the Mac (they will read into a Mac CDROM drive!) - they can be
contacted at www.quparts.com

Regards
Rob
The Emulator Archive
www.emulatorarchive.com


Hi Laurent,
If I may ask you some advice...I'm also trying to
download the Cd rom for the EII into my Sound Designer
program, and the program works great on it's own,
however I can't get the Cdrom drive to be recognized
by the computer, let alone the program.
I am using a stand alone apple 300 Cdrom connected to
an MacII SE. (via the smaller SCSI port)
Do I need a software driver for this thing? Anyone who
has a working setup please help!!
Thanks,
Mike

--- snapshotsfr <snapshotsfr@...> wrote:

RE: [emulatorII-list] Cdrom help

2002-11-20 by Mike Klein

Hi Rob,
Thanks for the reply. 
I'm not sure if it's possible, but how difficult would
it be to convert a CDrom drive to work with an RS-422
port? I realize OMI has long discontinued their drive.
Is it just a case of  making the appropriate cable? Or
is some sort of software needed? If anyone has the
knowledge to do this--what an opportunity! 
Thanks,
Mike

--- Rob Keeble <rob@...> wrote:
> Hi,
> The EII sample CDROM's work in a CDROM player
> connected directly to the EII
> over RS422. They cannot be read directly by a Mac or
> PC, as they are in EII
> file format. The only CDROM drives that will work
> with the EII were made by
> OMI and work over RS422 - they are long since
> obsolete and many have died.
> You can load samples from the OMI CDROM into the EII
> and save the bank to
> diskette. Then you can power off and connect up the
> Mac running SD for EII
> to the EII RS422, power on, load the sample and
> download the sample to the
> Mac using SD for EII. You may also be able to get
> the Mac, CDROM player and
> EII working on one RS422 connection, as the CDS3 has
> RS422 passthrough I
> think. You should never unplug the RS422 connection
> whilst the EII is
> powered up - or you may blow the driver chips.
> 
> Either way its a long process to migrate the OMI
> samples from CDROM into SD
> for EII. We have about 800 samples done, and the
> remaining FX samples are
> not really worth the effort. We don't distribute
> these samples as OMI still
> exist as QUpArts - so there is a copyright issue.
> QUparts wanted too much
> money for the distribution rights, so we cannot
> offer them commercially.
> 
> We have numerous other EII libraries including the
> E-mu factory library, FMS
> and Burmer Collection.
> 
> OMI still sell the original EII CDROM's as well as
> the same samples in SD
> format for the Mac (they will read into a Mac CDROM
> drive!) - they can be
> contacted at www.quparts.com
> 
> Regards
> Rob
> The Emulator Archive
> www.emulatorarchive.com
> 
> 
> Hi Laurent,
> If I may ask you some advice...I'm also trying to
> download the Cd rom for the EII into my Sound
> Designer
> program, and the program works great on it's own,
> however I can't get the Cdrom drive to be recognized
> by the computer, let alone the program.
> I am using a stand alone apple 300 Cdrom connected
> to
> an MacII SE. (via the smaller SCSI port)
> Do I need a software driver for this thing? Anyone
> who
> has a working setup please help!!
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
> --- snapshotsfr <snapshotsfr@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> 


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RE: [emulatorII-list] Cdrom help

2002-11-20 by Rob Keeble

Hi,
Pretty much impossible - unless you are an electronics engineer good at
designing custom SCSI to serial interfaces, and you can reverse engineer the
EII serial cable protocol. Yes, I have tried to locate the EII serial
protocol description and the EII memory meap from Dave Rossum, but these
docs have been lost in the mists of time...

Best solution is a Powerbook with SD for EII and all the OMI banks converted
to SD for EII files..

Or a resurrection of all the borken OMI CDROM players that have failed would
help -- the Sony drives die.

Rob

Hi Rob,
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not sure if it's possible, but how difficult would
it be to convert a CDrom drive to work with an RS-422
port? I realize OMI has long discontinued their drive.
Is it just a case of  making the appropriate cable? Or
is some sort of software needed? If anyone has the
knowledge to do this--what an opportunity!
Thanks,
Mike