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More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by jmp701

Hi. I've spent some time recently getting my head around this program
and soundbank transfers to EII etc. but to date have been unable to
communicate with the E2 using the program installed on a Powerbook
150. I know this isn't listed as compatible in the database so I have
a Mac SE on the way which I hope to have more success with. 

However, after reading the Sound Designer troubleshooting manual, I
may have another issue to resolve? The manual states that some Rev 1's
have not had necessary modifications carried out at the factory,
specifically: 

1. The trace leading to the end of R48 closest to the back panel being
cut. This hasn't been done on my EII.

2. The trace going to lC132, pin 10 is to be cut (?) Whilst I can
see this chip to extract, how do I know which is Pin 10? According to
the manual I have to bend this pin up and re-seat it, but I'm very
reluctant to cause damage when I'm not sure what I am doing.  

Can someone reassure me that I definately need to do both of these
measures (?) and how to identify pin 10 (which presumably leads from
underneath the chip). 

For info I have a Rev 1 logic board with Version 2.1 EPROMS plus OS
2.3 and 3.1 disks for use in the EII. I've also ensured MIDI is on in
OMNI mode with no MIDI cable attached.  

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by hexafuzz

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@...> wrote:
>
> Hi. I've spent some time recently getting my head around this 
> program and soundbank transfers to EII etc. but to date have been 
> unable to communicate with the E2 using the program installed on a 
> Powerbook 150. I know this isn't listed as compatible in the 
> database so I have a Mac SE on the way which I hope to have more 
> success with. 

The compatibility database isnt a complete nor final list of the only
Macs that work. It is just a list of known working configurations that
have been verified personally by our members. 

The only important difference I can see between a Powerbook 165c/180c
(which both work with SD) and the Powerbook 150; is that the 165c/180c
have both modem *and* printer ports, while the 150 only has a single
printer port. If you notice in the database, both working Powerbooks
are using the modem port (which the 150 apparently doesnt have).

What Mac OS (system version) are you running and did you make sure
AppleTalk is turned ON? Are you sure your SD cable is wired correctly?
Even though it seems the Powerbook 150 only has a single printer port,
have you tried toggling the printer/modem port selection within Sound
Designer? I would think it has more to do with the E-II board revision
problem you mentioned, but youll know for sure when the Mac SE arrives. 

Someone else will need to give you the specifics on which E-II
hardware mods are necessary for SD as I dont know enough about that to
advise properly.

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by jmp701

Hi, thanks for your response. Yeah. I realise about the Mac list
database, the Powerbook 150 was cheap so thought I'd give it a go
(running OS 7.5). I have tried toggling between modem & serial ports.
and switched Apple Talk on, this made no difference and the latter
caused the powerbook to lock-up at times. 

Emulator Archive supplied the cable and advised Powerbooks can be
touch and go, so I'm now awaiting the Mac SE as an alternative and may
diagnose the communication issue. Just thinking that I may now also
need to do the EII modifications too (?) and unsure about the pin
cutting aspect. 

Cheers. 


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hexafuzz" <gclip@...> wrote:
>
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I've spent some time recently getting my head around this 
> > program and soundbank transfers to EII etc. but to date have been 
> > unable to communicate with the E2 using the program installed on a 
> > Powerbook 150. I know this isn't listed as compatible in the 
> > database so I have a Mac SE on the way which I hope to have more 
> > success with. 
> 
> The compatibility database isnt a complete nor final list of the only
> Macs that work. It is just a list of known working configurations that
> have been verified personally by our members. 
> 
> The only important difference I can see between a Powerbook 165c/180c
> (which both work with SD) and the Powerbook 150; is that the 165c/180c
> have both modem *and* printer ports, while the 150 only has a single
> printer port. If you notice in the database, both working Powerbooks
> are using the modem port (which the 150 apparently doesnt have).
> 
> What Mac OS (system version) are you running and did you make sure
> AppleTalk is turned ON? Are you sure your SD cable is wired correctly?
> Even though it seems the Powerbook 150 only has a single printer port,
> have you tried toggling the printer/modem port selection within Sound
> Designer? I would think it has more to do with the E-II board revision
> problem you mentioned, but youll know for sure when the Mac SE arrives. 
> 
> Someone else will need to give you the specifics on which E-II
> hardware mods are necessary for SD as I dont know enough about that to
> advise properly.
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by hexafuzz

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, thanks for your response. Yeah. I realise about the Mac list
> database, the Powerbook 150 was cheap so thought I'd give it a go
> (running OS 7.5). I have tried toggling between modem & serial 
> ports. and switched Apple Talk on, this made no difference and the 
> latter caused the powerbook to lock-up at times. 

I own the Powerbook 165c in the database, and can report that SD wont
work on the printer port (complete with the same lockups you
describe). Id just wait it out for the Mac SE and see what happens
there before going further. Just keep in mind that the SE will be
quite a bit slower than the Powerbook 150. I also hope you got an SE
with maxed ram (4mb) and a 1.4mb floppy drive. More info here:
http://www.lowendmac.com/compact/macintosh-se.html

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by jmp701

Thanks for the info and Mac SE link. Interesting what you've said
about the printer port of the powerbooks, maybe this will turn out to
be the issue with the 150....? 

The Mac SE due to arrive is an SE 4/20 800K. Presuming 4MB RAM/20MB
hard drive. It has a standard floppy which I think is single or double
sided/double density type (?) but also an external floppy drive of
which I don't yet know the specs. I missed out on the 1.4MB FDHD
version also up for sale.

Not going to do anything with the EMU II until I've tried ths one out.
Just hoping I don't have issues using floppies between this, the
powerbook and/or Macdisk under Windows PC now...! 

Thanks for the reply. 

John. 

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hexafuzz" <gclip@...> wrote:
>
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, thanks for your response. Yeah. I realise about the Mac list
> > database, the Powerbook 150 was cheap so thought I'd give it a go
> > (running OS 7.5). I have tried toggling between modem & serial 
> > ports. and switched Apple Talk on, this made no difference and the 
> > latter caused the powerbook to lock-up at times. 
> 
> I own the Powerbook 165c in the database, and can report that SD wont
> work on the printer port (complete with the same lockups you
> describe). Id just wait it out for the Mac SE and see what happens
> there before going further. Just keep in mind that the SE will be
> quite a bit slower than the Powerbook 150. I also hope you got an SE
> with maxed ram (4mb) and a 1.4mb floppy drive. More info here:
> http://www.lowendmac.com/compact/macintosh-se.html
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by hoschi1103

All following information comes without warranty of any kind. It's
late and I'm old. Get a second opinion :)

IC132 is an MC1488, a 4x line driver for TTL to RS232. Pin 10 is the B
input of the 3rd driver. Cutting it will set DTR (Data Terminal Ready)
to be always HIGH. DTR is used on both RS232 and RS422 interfaces.
SD will only connect if it detects the EII as a terminal on the
serial. (Opposite a modem, which would set DSR (Data Set Ready).)
I suppose that in early EII OS versions, this line was switched by the
EII in Macintosh mode but later they left it always on for a less
troublesome connection.
Please find a datasheet at
http://www.klm-tech.com/technicothica/images/14881489.zip
With the datasheet you can find and measure Pin 8, which should have
+5V .. +15V immediately after you turn the EII on without a serial
cable attached. If it is negative, the changes should be done to get
the serial port working.

R47 and R48 probably refer to the factory built in RS422 interface, as
the are not on the original schematics. Perhaps someone can have a
look in their EII to confirm this. I suppose they are to be changed
for a higher line voltage on the serial port.

Finding the correct MAC working with EII can be an adventure. From my
current work I can see that the timing that EII provides on the serial
port is beyond anything. It jumps like hell, making it currently
impossible for me to connect any modern serial interface device to the
EII. (I'm trying with different RS422-RS232 converters to spy the
communication). This jumping is from the different length of Z80 code
blocks used in the EII to handle all kind of in- and output. And they
do not really use interrupts as one would use them today :(
So be glad if you can get a tolerant enough MAC that can handle this.
And never give it away. 

Greetings,
Hoschi

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@...> wrote:
>
> Hi. I've spent some time recently getting my head around this program
> and soundbank transfers to EII etc. but to date have been unable to
> communicate with the E2 using the program installed on a Powerbook
> 150. I know this isn't listed as compatible in the database so I have
> a Mac SE on the way which I hope to have more success with. 
> 
> However, after reading the Sound Designer troubleshooting manual, I
> may have another issue to resolve? The manual states that some Rev 1's
> have not had necessary modifications carried out at the factory,
> specifically: 
> 
> 1. The trace leading to the end of R48 closest to the back panel being
> cut. This hasn't been done on my EII.
> 
> 2. The trace going to lC132, pin 10 is to be cut (?) Whilst I can
> see this chip to extract, how do I know which is Pin 10? According to
> the manual I have to bend this pin up and re-seat it, but I'm very
> reluctant to cause damage when I'm not sure what I am doing.  
> 
> Can someone reassure me that I definately need to do both of these
> measures (?) and how to identify pin 10 (which presumably leads from
> underneath the chip). 
> 
> For info I have a Rev 1 logic board with Version 2.1 EPROMS plus OS
> 2.3 and 3.1 disks for use in the EII. I've also ensured MIDI is on in
> OMNI mode with no MIDI cable attached.  
> 
> Thanks for any help you can provide.
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by hexafuzz

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@...> wrote:
>
> Just hoping I don't have issues using floppies between this, the
> powerbook and/or Macdisk under Windows PC now...! 

Well the good news is you might be psychic... :)

"Due to physical differences between Mac and PC floppy drives, 800K
"double density" Mac floppies can only be written by other vintage
Macs. This means that boot disks for a Mac 128K, 512K, 512Ke, Plus,
pre-FDHD SE, or unupgraded Mac II cannot be made on a Mac OS X, Linux,
or Windows machine. (All other vintage Macs have a 1.4 MB "SuperDrive"
or FDHD [Floppy Disk, High Density] floppy drive, which is compatible
with modern computers.)"

http://www.lowendmac.com/sable/07/0315.html

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by jmp701

Urgh, I should of got that FDHD.... Hmmmm, maybe I can utilise my SCSI
Apple CD or zip drive to transfer data between. Just more hassle.... :(

Thanks again for the info. 


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hexafuzz" <gclip@...> wrote:
>
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@> wrote:
> >
> > Just hoping I don't have issues using floppies between this, the
> > powerbook and/or Macdisk under Windows PC now...! 
> 
> Well the good news is you might be psychic... :)
> 
> "Due to physical differences between Mac and PC floppy drives, 800K
> "double density" Mac floppies can only be written by other vintage
> Macs. This means that boot disks for a Mac 128K, 512K, 512Ke, Plus,
> pre-FDHD SE, or unupgraded Mac II cannot be made on a Mac OS X, Linux,
> or Windows machine. (All other vintage Macs have a 1.4 MB "SuperDrive"
> or FDHD [Floppy Disk, High Density] floppy drive, which is compatible
> with modern computers.)"
> 
> http://www.lowendmac.com/sable/07/0315.html
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-04 by jmp701

WOW, thanks for all that. I'm no techi but think I've got the jist of
it. At least I can identify which pin of IC132 the manual is talking
about now. 

Thanks a lot.   

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hoschi1103" <totti@...> wrote:
>
> All following information comes without warranty of any kind. It's
> late and I'm old. Get a second opinion :)
> 
> IC132 is an MC1488, a 4x line driver for TTL to RS232. Pin 10 is the B
> input of the 3rd driver. Cutting it will set DTR (Data Terminal Ready)
> to be always HIGH. DTR is used on both RS232 and RS422 interfaces.
> SD will only connect if it detects the EII as a terminal on the
> serial. (Opposite a modem, which would set DSR (Data Set Ready).)
> I suppose that in early EII OS versions, this line was switched by the
> EII in Macintosh mode but later they left it always on for a less
> troublesome connection.
> Please find a datasheet at
> http://www.klm-tech.com/technicothica/images/14881489.zip
> With the datasheet you can find and measure Pin 8, which should have
> +5V .. +15V immediately after you turn the EII on without a serial
> cable attached. If it is negative, the changes should be done to get
> the serial port working.
> 
> R47 and R48 probably refer to the factory built in RS422 interface, as
> the are not on the original schematics. Perhaps someone can have a
> look in their EII to confirm this. I suppose they are to be changed
> for a higher line voltage on the serial port.
> 
> Finding the correct MAC working with EII can be an adventure. From my
> current work I can see that the timing that EII provides on the serial
> port is beyond anything. It jumps like hell, making it currently
> impossible for me to connect any modern serial interface device to the
> EII. (I'm trying with different RS422-RS232 converters to spy the
> communication). This jumping is from the different length of Z80 code
> blocks used in the EII to handle all kind of in- and output. And they
> do not really use interrupts as one would use them today :(
> So be glad if you can get a tolerant enough MAC that can handle this.
> And never give it away. 
> 
> Greetings,
> Hoschi
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-05 by hexafuzz

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@...> wrote:
>
> maybe I can utilise my SCSI Apple CD or zip drive to transfer data 
> between.

You may need to jump through a few hoops, but that should work. Im
also not sure about the external floppy you mentioned. If its a 1.4mb
drive (and your SE will recognize it as such), then youre all set.

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-05 by elmbeatz

".... Hmmmm, maybe I can utilise my SCSI zip drive to transfer data
between....."

That's exactly how I do it, and it works PERFECTLY!
(I have a USB Zip drive on the PC side).

To mod an EII so that it can communicate with the Mac is what I was
trying to do recently, and I had no success - I think you have to be a
brilliant tech to do it, which I'm not at all ;)

I'm just glad that I have another one which communicates great (with a
Mac SE, too, by the way..)

Greetz,
Elm.

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-05 by jmp701

Hi Elm, a stroke of luck tonight ! Despite my concerns over potential
modifications to the EII to get a connection, the Mac SE has connected
fine using the printer serial port. For the first time my EII has
stated 'under Macintosh control' ! :). 

I've got Sound Designer installed via floppy from the PB150 (using
DS/DD 3.5" disk formatted to 800K). HOWEVER, I can't get any SCSI
device to show up on the desktop. I've tried two CD drives, one an
Apple drive that worked with my PB150 plus a zip drive. None will show
up despite changing SCSI ID numbers and terminating the SCSI chain
with the PB150. 

Did you have to change any settings on the SE or did yours appear
automatically? 

Cheers.   

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@...> wrote:
>
> ".... Hmmmm, maybe I can utilise my SCSI zip drive to transfer data
> between....."
> 
> That's exactly how I do it, and it works PERFECTLY!
> (I have a USB Zip drive on the PC side).
> 
> To mod an EII so that it can communicate with the Mac is what I was
> trying to do recently, and I had no success - I think you have to be a
> brilliant tech to do it, which I'm not at all ;)
> 
> I'm just glad that I have another one which communicates great (with a
> Mac SE, too, by the way..)
> 
> Greetz,
> Elm.
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie-->RS422 stuff

2008-11-05 by esynthesist

Hi Hoschi

>>> Finding the correct MAC working with EII can be an adventure. 
>>> current work I can see that the timing that EII provides on the
>>> serial port is beyond anything. It jumps like hell, making it 
>>> currently impossible for me to connect any modern serial 
>>> interface device to the EII

Good to hear that someone else is also having problems trying to 
connect modern RS422 ports to the EII (see my experiments explained 
on the emax group and on the eiiiforum).
Although in interactive mode I don't have any problems to "talk" with 
the EII. And I also have software which can unload banks from the EII 
to a PC within 20 seconds, although I have to admit that some re-
handshaking is required from time to time within the program loop, 
which explains the difference between the 12 seconds on the Mac and 
the 20 seconds on the PC.

I'm wondering though about this "jumping" argument... As far as I can 
see the clock on the EII is pretty stable, and even if it's not, it's 
also externally clocking the Mac so the impact shouldn't be that big 
in terms of hardware syncing. So I assume you're not referring to the 
actual clock but to the usage of the port by the EII software via the 
Z80 ?
I'm still wondering why one Mac is "EII tolerant" while the other one 
is not. The success rate seems not to depend on the Mac OS version, 
not on the Mac processor speed, not on the Mac serial port circuits 
(which are all the same and externally clockable), not on the amount 
of RAM, not... 
However switching from Appletalk ON to OFF can help sometimes, or the 
other way around, and sometimes the printer port is OK, or sometimes 
only the modem port, ... Really strange !

Anyway, we can e-mail offline to share further ideas about getting 
this RS422 communication up & running with modern devices. I just 
ordered my fourth RS422 PC port, so I hoping I made the right choice 
now, either for the EII or the Emax or both :-)

///E-Synthesist

--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "hoschi1103" <totti@...> 
wrote:
>
> All following information comes without warranty of any kind. It's
> late and I'm old. Get a second opinion :)
> 
> IC132 is an MC1488, a 4x line driver for TTL to RS232. Pin 10 is 
the B
> input of the 3rd driver. Cutting it will set DTR (Data Terminal 
Ready)
> to be always HIGH. DTR is used on both RS232 and RS422 interfaces.
> SD will only connect if it detects the EII as a terminal on the
> serial. (Opposite a modem, which would set DSR (Data Set Ready).)
> I suppose that in early EII OS versions, this line was switched by 
the
> EII in Macintosh mode but later they left it always on for a less
> troublesome connection.
> Please find a datasheet at
> http://www.klm-tech.com/technicothica/images/14881489.zip
> With the datasheet you can find and measure Pin 8, which should have
> +5V .. +15V immediately after you turn the EII on without a serial
> cable attached. If it is negative, the changes should be done to get
> the serial port working.
> 
> R47 and R48 probably refer to the factory built in RS422 interface, 
as
> the are not on the original schematics. Perhaps someone can have a
> look in their EII to confirm this. I suppose they are to be changed
> for a higher line voltage on the serial port.
> 
> Finding the correct MAC working with EII can be an adventure. From 
my
> current work I can see that the timing that EII provides on the 
serial
> port is beyond anything. It jumps like hell, making it currently
> impossible for me to connect any modern serial interface device to 
the
> EII. (I'm trying with different RS422-RS232 converters to spy the
> communication). This jumping is from the different length of Z80 
code
> blocks used in the EII to handle all kind of in- and output. And 
they
> do not really use interrupts as one would use them today :(
> So be glad if you can get a tolerant enough MAC that can handle 
this.
> And never give it away. 
> 
> Greetings,
> Hoschi
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi. I've spent some time recently getting my head around this 
program
> > and soundbank transfers to EII etc. but to date have been unable 
to
> > communicate with the E2 using the program installed on a Powerbook
> > 150. I know this isn't listed as compatible in the database so I 
have
> > a Mac SE on the way which I hope to have more success with. 
> > 
> > However, after reading the Sound Designer troubleshooting manual, 
I
> > may have another issue to resolve? The manual states that some 
Rev 1's
> > have not had necessary modifications carried out at the factory,
> > specifically: 
> > 
> > 1. The trace leading to the end of R48 closest to the back panel 
being
> > cut. This hasn't been done on my EII.
> > 
> > 2. The trace going to lC132, pin 10 is to be cut (?) Whilst I can
> > see this chip to extract, how do I know which is Pin 10? 
According to
> > the manual I have to bend this pin up and re-seat it, but I'm very
> > reluctant to cause damage when I'm not sure what I am doing.  
> > 
> > Can someone reassure me that I definately need to do both of these
> > measures (?) and how to identify pin 10 (which presumably leads 
from
> > underneath the chip). 
> > 
> > For info I have a Rev 1 logic board with Version 2.1 EPROMS plus 
OS
> > 2.3 and 3.1 disks for use in the EII. I've also ensured MIDI is 
on in
> > OMNI mode with no MIDI cable attached.  
> > 
> > Thanks for any help you can provide.
> >
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-05 by elmbeatz

Hey, congratulations!
Well, I didn't manage to get a scsi dc-rom drive running on my SE, but
my Zip-100 drive worked at once without any special adjusting or such.
So, everything I do is with that zip drive.
Its cool, although it takes a long time to format a zip disk :)
but it workes reallllly well. I made instrument-dedicated disks which
I swap when needed.
Cheers.



--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Elm, a stroke of luck tonight ! Despite my concerns over potential
> modifications to the EII to get a connection, the Mac SE has connected
> fine using the printer serial port. For the first time my EII has
> stated 'under Macintosh control' ! :). 
> 
> I've got Sound Designer installed via floppy from the PB150 (using
> DS/DD 3.5" disk formatted to 800K). HOWEVER, I can't get any SCSI
> device to show up on the desktop. I've tried two CD drives, one an
> Apple drive that worked with my PB150 plus a zip drive. None will show
> up despite changing SCSI ID numbers and terminating the SCSI chain
> with the PB150. 
> 
> Did you have to change any settings on the SE or did yours appear
> automatically? 
> 
> Cheers.   
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@> wrote:
> >
> > ".... Hmmmm, maybe I can utilise my SCSI zip drive to transfer data
> > between....."
> > 
> > That's exactly how I do it, and it works PERFECTLY!
> > (I have a USB Zip drive on the PC side).
> > 
> > To mod an EII so that it can communicate with the Mac is what I was
> > trying to do recently, and I had no success - I think you have to be a
> > brilliant tech to do it, which I'm not at all ;)
> > 
> > I'm just glad that I have another one which communicates great (with a
> > Mac SE, too, by the way..)
> > 
> > Greetz,
> > Elm.
> >
>

Re: More help for Sound Designer Newbie.

2008-11-17 by jmp701

A quick update to announce success with a Mac Colour Classic and Apple
SCSI CD ROM. I got the driver for the CD from the other topic details
posted here, cheers ! 

I may now be able to 'almost'retire those 5.25 drives. :)

Thanks all for help in here. 


--- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@...> wrote:
>
> Hey, congratulations!
> Well, I didn't manage to get a scsi dc-rom drive running on my SE, but
> my Zip-100 drive worked at once without any special adjusting or such.
> So, everything I do is with that zip drive.
> Its cool, although it takes a long time to format a zip disk :)
> but it workes reallllly well. I made instrument-dedicated disks which
> I swap when needed.
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "jmp701" <jmp70@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Elm, a stroke of luck tonight ! Despite my concerns over potential
> > modifications to the EII to get a connection, the Mac SE has connected
> > fine using the printer serial port. For the first time my EII has
> > stated 'under Macintosh control' ! :). 
> > 
> > I've got Sound Designer installed via floppy from the PB150 (using
> > DS/DD 3.5" disk formatted to 800K). HOWEVER, I can't get any SCSI
> > device to show up on the desktop. I've tried two CD drives, one an
> > Apple drive that worked with my PB150 plus a zip drive. None will show
> > up despite changing SCSI ID numbers and terminating the SCSI chain
> > with the PB150. 
> > 
> > Did you have to change any settings on the SE or did yours appear
> > automatically? 
> > 
> > Cheers.   
> > 
> > --- In emulatorII-list@yahoogroups.com, "elmbeatz" <elmbeatz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ".... Hmmmm, maybe I can utilise my SCSI zip drive to transfer data
> > > between....."
> > > 
> > > That's exactly how I do it, and it works PERFECTLY!
> > > (I have a USB Zip drive on the PC side).
> > > 
> > > To mod an EII so that it can communicate with the Mac is what I was
> > > trying to do recently, and I had no success - I think you have
to be a
> > > brilliant tech to do it, which I'm not at all ;)
> > > 
> > > I'm just glad that I have another one which communicates great
(with a
> > > Mac SE, too, by the way..)
> > > 
> > > Greetz,
> > > Elm.
> > >
> >
>